Either we have a Constitution, or we do not.

a reply to: sraven
Stop paying the property taxes and see what happens.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: 727Sky

The Supreme Court UPHELD the ban on evictions. When it expired, the CDC issued an extension to the ban. The Feds extended the ban so that states could get their act together and issue the money Congress allocated to them to cover unpaid rent.

The money is there. Landlords need to lobby their state legislators, demonstrate, protest, RIOT!, whatever it takes to get them to release that money!

Landlords aren't typically protestors and rioters. They're normally protecting their homes from people like that because protestors and rioters still live in the basement of their parent's house and care nothing about properties.

a reply to: 727Sky

What do you expect? He was Obama's right-hand man, and this is exactly how the Obama administration acted for 8 years. Should we expect Biden to govern any differently?

That said, it is getting increasingly concerning how elected officials scoff at laws on the books in order to pass things that appease their core voting bloc. The initial passage of such things gets massive air time, and then when they are challenged in court and it loses, there's hardly a peep from the media. So, it's a predictable bait-and-switch that these politicians are doing in order to increase excitement with their base, knowing full well that the policy won't last, but that their base won't really know that it was overturned.

It's a shell game.

originally posted by: sraven
yes, there is a constitution. It is written in a very pretty script. Hand written, which is amazing in its artistry.
Signed by some very self important people a long time ago. It is on display . . . somewhere . . . very important . . . a museum where they keep history.

which is where it belongs . . . it is history

As to property rights . . .
You believe that you bought a house. You picked it out, then went to a bank and borrowed money to buy it,
and entered into an agreement to
pay the bank principal and interest and property taxes and homeowners insurance
for 30 years.

And you believe that you own the property and that you are a free man,

Bless your heart.

Some people don't need a bank loan to own property or rentals, like me. Now what smarty pants?

a reply to: Sookiechacha

With most areas of the country open, most businesses are having a hard time finding staff.... what exactly is the excuse for continued moratorium on evictions? People either need to get a job and pay the rent or GTFO. It really is that simple.

Many of the people who who have not been paying their rent have also been receiving unemployment. Where is that money going? Most business can't hire enough people. What is the excuse for not working?

Most landlords are not huge institutional investors. They are small mom & pops. They have to pay their own bills with that rent. Is the landlord's mortgage company going to stop asking for their money? Are states going to stop asking for property taxes?

Where does it all end?

a reply to: Edumakated

People either need to get a job and pay the rent or GTFO. It really is that simple.

Sure. So, they get jobs and now they can pay rent. There is still the matter of past rent. That's where the hold up is. The states have the money that Congress allocated for unpaid rent, but states aren't distributing that money efficiently enough. Only something like 10% has been distributed. The rest is sitting in state coffers.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

What if the only way to get jobs is to get the jab? Children’s Hospital in Dayton, Ohio just announced to their employees get vaxxed or get fired unless you have a qualified exemption filed through HR like religion.

a reply to: Ahabstar

IDK, but that's a future government manufactured issue. The eviction ban, and its extension, are supposed to fix a past issue, giving people who lost their income because of pandemic related setbacks, time to get their rent paid by accessing pandemic related funds.

The government closed schools and businesses, the government issued tons of money to states to make sure landlords got paid. State governments are flinging bureaucratic red tape mazes at applicants, resulting in landlords not getting paid and getting frustrated, ready to evict the tenets who the money was supposed to protect.

It would be funny, if it wasn't so stupidly horrifying.

originally posted by: ntech
a reply to: sraven
Stop paying the property taxes and see what happens.

Once you understand that you never truly "own" anything
because you must pay the government
property tax, sales tax, . . .
use fees, registration fees, . . .
and above all else health insurance, auto insurance, life insurance . . .

your priorities on
where you spend the fruits of your labor
change.

originally posted by: Edumakated
a reply to: Sookiechacha

With most areas of the country open, most businesses are having a hard time finding staff.... what exactly is the excuse for continued moratorium on evictions? People either need to get a job and pay the rent or GTFO. It really is that simple.

Many of the people who who have not been paying their rent have also been receiving unemployment. Where is that money going? Most business can't hire enough people. What is the excuse for not working?

Most landlords are not huge institutional investors. They are small mom & pops. They have to pay their own bills with that rent. Is the landlord's mortgage company going to stop asking for their money? Are states going to stop asking for property taxes?

Where does it all end?

Yes, this. I've had more people apply for a job here, and never show up for the interview, than I've hired.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Edumakated

People either need to get a job and pay the rent or GTFO. It really is that simple.

Sure. So, they get jobs and now they can pay rent. There is still the matter of past rent. That's where the hold up is. The states have the money that Congress allocated for unpaid rent, but states aren't distributing that money efficiently enough. Only something like 10% has been distributed. The rest is sitting in state coffers.

It's probably a safe bet that that money is being funneled somehow into the pockets of the corrupt politicians. When everyone realizes just how meaningless We the People really are to our "leaders", then we can start getting some things done. But first we'll have to put aside everything political and stand together. Until then, we'll continue being puppets fighting each other for the entertainment of the elite. These motherfrickers are all sitting back in their secure homes having maskless parties and having one hell of a laugh at our expense. How long will this continue?

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: MykeNukem
As such, it's a bit early to call the action unconstitutional.

Ditto for calling it constitutional, as well.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
The last few years have been witness to a majority of officials and politicians ignoring and totally violating the constitution in so many ways. An obscene amount even.
It can only lead to the destruction of America eventually if it isn't stopped.

Thanks for expressing my thoughts on the matter!

Bipartisan majorities in Congress gave us the USA Patriot Act, AUMF and so many other illegitimate legislative POS, all amount to assaults on the US Constitution.

This will help build a case to pack the SCOTUS

a reply to: Ahabstar

When are those employers going to admit the obvious: THE SHOTS DON'T WORK?

Politics and Medicine don't mix.

Either we have a Constitution, or we do not.

We clearly don't.

You have no first amendment right. Speech/Protest.

You have no second amendment right. Guns.

You have no rights to due process/speedy trials. You do have the 'right' to be indefinitely locked up in solitary and the FBI SWATTING you.

You have no 14th amendment right that was suppose to protect YOUR PROPERTY.

Unelected bureaucrats at the CDC,FBI,DOJ,IRS,DHS,ATF can do whatever eff they want to you.

I mean who really needs freedom and democracy anyway.

Those with the refrain "there ought to be a law" or "government needs to do something" which exist throughout society no matter political persuasion should have been shamed, run out of town or otherwise socially castigated decades ago by the majority.

But was and isn't done because false sense of convenience offered by "the other guy" having rights stepped on while receiving percieved some benefit.

That wrong thinking has devolved into a lawless society awash in self serving law, code, regulation and "emergency powers" that are able to be wielded as weapon by petty despotic politicians and unelected officials alike to punish, quell, fine or imprison any and all opposition that cause an inconvenience to their rape of the system and people.

Monetary or sense of empowerment variously offered opposing groups keeps the game going.

The total corruption is accelerated to the point even the blind, deaf and dumb realize the Constitution is essentially nullified in reality if not in spirit. One can bend it to will if a member of the right clique and cause and, a bought off compliant media machine stands ready to help bastardize all logic in cahoots. In egregious cases years will go by in expensive litigation to right the wrong - your politicians constantly play that aspect in knowingly and purposely passing unconstitutional legislation or allowing non-elected officials to do so by seeing what "will stick to the wall" in a progressive fashion.

Mention or expound founding principles and receive attention from a nameless "Eye of Sauron" governmental three letter agency and have public shaming or worse from the walking dead media driven public.

Allowing politicians, courts, institutions and agencies to run roughshod over the constitution has brought things to a point that true change and a return to principles probably will take a massive upheaval in what we call civil society - I only wonder if there's enough people left desiring a to return to founding principles to prevail.

I've watched this #^*#show go on for my six decades as its proceeded apace and can only wonder at how badly people will latch on to lie after lie to justify their fear, beliefs and actions in total ignorance and opposition to God given Rights.

"Its a Republic if you can keep it"

When giving illegal alien children immunity from being exported from the USA, Barack Obama proclaimed that the U.S. Constitution was an out-of-date document.

He said the same thing 2 years prior, when he forced the U.S. Treasury to send taxpayer money (billions of $$$) to health insurance companies, in order to pay them off for agreeing to ObamaCare.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: MykeNukem
So until the Supreme Court gives an actual ruling, there are laws in place that give the CDC authority to issue an eviction moratorium. As such, it's a bit early to call the action unconstitutional.

Anyone who believes that the Supreme Court is the last word on what is or is not Constitutional is a closet fascist.

Anyone who can read can see it is a blatant violation of the Constitutional prohibition on the 5th Amendments prohibition of the taking of private property without just compensation.

The only way this nonsense could even remotely be considered truly Constitutional is if the federal government simply agreed to take over the payment of rents for anyone who applied for the 'rent moratorium'.

Meaning - it is the RENTERS getting the benefit, so they are the ones who would need to apply, and if approved, the next rent payment to the landlord simply comes from the government.

The landlord shouldn't have to do anything other than understand why the payment isn't coming from their renter.