Vaccine Segregation is getting heavy

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: headcheck

What are the Vaxxed so afraid of?

Having to admit they may not be the saviors of the world they once thought they were.

A good example of this is any re-masking related thread on Reddit right now. Hate to plug it, but word-of-mouth is as good as it gets because I'm not giving them link clicks.

The most overwhelming complaint? To paraphrase, "I'm so tired of protecting people who don't appreciate it!" It's absolutely as if, "Dip#, nobody asked you in the first place" is an utterly foreign concept to them.

I think a lot of people are going to have an unpleasant personal look inward at themselves, and see not much beyond their warping altruism in to a smokescreen to cover unjustifiable heavy-handedness. History never remembers neck-steppers fondly, they know this.

It's the SJW mentality. They feel as if they are saving humanity from itself, since everyone else isn't smart enough to see it like they see it.

Let’s pretend everyone on the planet did get vaccinated in the next few months, and the Covid kept spreading same as it has. Who do you think the media would start pointing the finger at then?

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: headcheck

Proof of vax is illegal and goes against the privacy laws we got in the country, actually somebody can sue for that, HIPPA laws.

Wow they need to get a good lawyer, easy money.

This has been corrected at least a dozen times.

HIPAA prevents those whole hold protected health information from releasing it and dictates how they secure it. It doesn't stop you from disclosing it if you choose and doesn't stop people from asking.

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What happens when people with no knowledge of HIPPA don't secure the info and someone else starts looking through and telling everyone who is and isnt vaxxed? Would that not be a violation of HIPPA?

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: headcheck

What are the Vaxxed so afraid of?

Having to admit they may not be the saviors of the world they once thought they were.

A good example of this is any re-masking related thread on Reddit right now. Hate to plug it, but word-of-mouth is as good as it gets because I'm not giving them link clicks.

The most overwhelming complaint? To paraphrase, "I'm so tired of protecting people who don't appreciate it!" It's absolutely as if, "Dip#, nobody asked you in the first place" is an utterly foreign concept to them.

I think a lot of people are going to have an unpleasant personal look inward at themselves, and see not much beyond their warping altruism in to a smokescreen to cover unjustifiable heavy-handedness. History never remembers neck-steppers fondly, they know this.

It's the SJW mentality. They feel as if they are saving humanity from itself, since everyone else isn't smart enough to see it like they see it.

Oh absolutely, the view down their noses is pretty narrow anymore. They're smart, everyone else is dumb and needs someone else to do things for them. That's the world in a SJW nutshell.

originally posted by: headcheck
Let’s pretend everyone on the planet did get vaccinated in the next few months, and the Covid kept spreading same as it has. Who do you think the media would start pointing the finger at then?

The Jews.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: headcheck
Let’s pretend everyone on the planet did get vaccinated in the next few months, and the Covid kept spreading same as it has. Who do you think the media would start pointing the finger at then?

The Jews.

Actually, I'd be willing to bet on people turning on our smaller outlier cultures -- Amish, Mennonite, probably even simple luddite lifestylers, too.

originally posted by: headcheck
Starting to see the gloves come off and the sides being taken by the Vaxxed VS. the Unvaxxed, and it's getting ugly. As someone who is slightly involved in the electronic music scene in Seattle, I'm seeing all the who's who of promoters and club-goers/dj's/artists pointing fingers and getting nasty towards anyone who is unvaxxed.

Seattle? To be expected I think.

This is really starting to piss me off, for a reason I'll go into in a new thread later today...

a reply to: Nyiah

Like I said in my first post of this thread, the left loves their segregation.

They have a history of it.

originally posted by: headcheck
Let’s pretend everyone on the planet did get vaccinated in the next few months, and the Covid kept spreading same as it has. Who do you think the media would start pointing the finger at then?

Trump

originally posted by: dandandat2
Most people are giving into the propaganda of fear. Fear makes you choose sides.

The my body, my choice goes right out the window with these people. If I am not vaxed but you are, you have nothing to worry about. Isn't that the science?

No, I think something sinister is afoot.

Aaaaaaand in Oregon, our governor Kate Brownshirt has reinstated masks for all everywhere.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Does it have to be an N-95 mask, or is the t-shirt cut out in the shape of a mask still gucci?

a reply to: headcheck

The problem is the left think they are completely immune to propaganda while simultaneously believing the right fall for all of it. The truly sad part is that in order to get those beliefs the left had to take the propaganda bait, hook line and sinker on dry land, and they just don't get it.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: DBCowboy

Does it have to be an N-95 mask, or is the t-shirt cut out in the shape of a mask still gucci?

I'm actually trying to get duct tape used over the nose and mouth.

It's the only way to be sure.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Nyiah

In evil Oregon I had meetings today, all face-to-face and no one wearing masks.

After the bank, we had to hit up the grocery store. I let my kids help an elderly man ( < cue crowd gasps of disapproval > ) get items out of his scooter seat reach for him.

I'm so evil, I'm so evil that he high fived them and seemed utterly unfazed by the extreme, universe-shattering potential cold danger he was in.

In other words, he didn't give a #.

I had an elderly woman in a shop go full panic when I accidently stepped within her 6 foot bubble of protection.

The conditioning is there.

In some respects, the conditioning worries me more than anything else. The covid will one day subside, but the conditioning? Maybe not. I can see a significant portion of the population masking for life. And the worst part is that the whole episode of fear mongering coupled with the conditioning has fully ended civility. The more they ramp up the fear, the more bad behavior. Its getting scary out there.

a reply to: network dude

I actually heard a guy on the radio the other day make the statement that the cloth masks are useless and that the only safe mask is the n95. Then again, I have seen it both ways.

originally posted by: TonyS

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Nyiah

In evil Oregon I had meetings today, all face-to-face and no one wearing masks.

After the bank, we had to hit up the grocery store. I let my kids help an elderly man ( < cue crowd gasps of disapproval > ) get items out of his scooter seat reach for him.

I'm so evil, I'm so evil that he high fived them and seemed utterly unfazed by the extreme, universe-shattering potential cold danger he was in.

In other words, he didn't give a #.

I had an elderly woman in a shop go full panic when I accidently stepped within her 6 foot bubble of protection.

The conditioning is there.

In some respects, the conditioning worries me more than anything else. The covid will one day subside, but the conditioning? Maybe not. I can see a significant portion of the population masking for life. And the worst part is that the whole episode of fear mongering coupled with the conditioning has fully ended civility. The more they ramp up the fear, the more bad behavior. Its getting scary out there.

Fearful people are easier to control, especially if government has the solution to the fear (that they created).

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: network dude

I actually heard a guy on the radio the other day make the statement that the cloth masks are useless and that the only safe mask is the n95. Then again, I have seen it both ways.

N95 masks are 95% effective (hence the name) but only for a limited time and only if worn properly.

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: headcheck

Proof of vax is illegal and goes against the privacy laws we got in the country, actually somebody can sue for that, HIPPA laws.

Wow they need to get a good lawyer, easy money.

This has been corrected at least a dozen times.

HIPAA prevents those whole hold protected health information from releasing it and dictates how they secure it. It doesn't stop you from disclosing it if you choose and doesn't stop people from asking.

It's being conflated with ADA rules which DO state that people cannot be asked about specific things (i.e., a grocery store can ask if your dog is a service animal and what it does, but they cannot ask anything about your disability).

Now if a person with a disability was unable to be vaccinated and then was denied entry for failure to have proof, it could get interesting from an ADA standpoint. If they were not allowed to mask or segregate from others, which would be a reasonable accommodation, I could see some sparks flying.

That would be, in my opinion, the best angle of attack. Lawsuits on discrimination can be very expensive.

This got me thinking...

When you go to a doctors office, hospital, clinic, whatever, someone will either direct you to a posted HIPPA statement or hand you a printed copy of their HIPPA compliance letter. They are demonstrating that they are aware of the sensitive nature of your information and have taken the appropriate steps to safeguard it. It is required by law that they do so. And you have to give them permission in writing before they can share your information with someone else.

Knowing how HIPPA works, it would not be unreasonable to demand a written HIPPA compliance letter from anyone asking for that information. We should be able to demand proof they have an appropriate means of safeguarding our information and also have legal recourse if they fail to do so.

If someone were to try to file charges or sue me for not proving I was vaxed, I would respond saying that they failed to prove they had the knowledge, desire, and ability to properly secure my personal information. My denial to share my information was based on their inability to safeguard it.