More than Half the Current Cases and Two-Thirds of Patients in serious condition fully vaxxed

originally posted by: BrokenCircles
a reply to: BatSars

lol, because you already made that part clear.

I never once cited comorbidity in my post. I didn't give statistics about patient type either. Are you okay?

a reply to: BatSars

I just asked a simple question, because I think that detail is important. I don't know why you're blowing up making it about me.

a reply to: BatSars

Excellent OP.

They have no credibility left.

They'll jump through hoops to show you why 2+2=5.

I swear it's being coordinated globally.

What about indiscriminately mixing different C-Jab's?

That's what Canada is doing, just line up and we'll give you whatever Vax we have left over from Polio or Anthrax, or whatever, just mix'em all in there.

originally posted by: BrokenCircles
a reply to: BatSars

I just asked a simple question, because I think that detail is important. I don't know why you're blowing up making it about me.

I cited the article, which you read. I do not need to quote everything from that article.

I wrote this post and therefore understand better than you what its premise was. The fact that old people are in serious condition shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that has been paying attention - this has always been true. Why do I need to re-emphasize a fact that has remained true throughout the course of the pandemic?

Your retort was an annoyance because it had nothing to do with my post and the information was there for anyone to read, which you did. I'm not going to rewrite someone else's article.

My apologies for my frustrated responses but I get sick of people nitpicking everything to death and implying that all information is invalid because of [reasons]. It's annoying. That may not have been your intent but that's how I took it. If that's wrong, then my bad.

You shouldn't apologise to a gaslighter. Anyone who has remotely paid attention throughout the pandemic knows the stats' for elderly and those with co-morbities.

Gaslighters always pretend they don't understand something to sew doubt in the minds of lesser informed people. I've had enough of this too. Never apologise to these reprobate. They're simply trying to deflect. a reply to: BatSars

On the surface, having 85% percent of the population vaccinated with 66% in a serious condition sounds like the jab is having some benefit. As for the adverse events and long term implications, it all looks a bit murky in getting accurate data.

I will still pass on the jab and take my chances with some Ivermectin.

originally posted by: BatSars

originally posted by: marg6043
Like I said either this no about covid, or big pharma just wants to have a steady influx of more profits for life with their crappy shot.


But at the end the truth will always comes out.

I will not be a milking cow.

Cue demands for 3rd shot in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

The greed is astounding, my friend.

Looks like they already have this idea in mind... good thing I can't get a third shot... I'd need 1 and 2 for that.

However countries across the globe are already looking at options, and earlier this year Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said he expected people would "likely" need a third shot.

Health Minister Greg Hunt recently said while ATAGI was yet to make a decision, the government was already planning ahead.

"There's no final decision as to whether a booster will be required, but we are planning as if a booster will be required," he said earlier this month.

Vax plans into 2023

a reply to: BatSars

Cue demands for 3rd shot in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

The greed is astounding, my friend.

I just read that Pfizer raised their 2021 vaccine profit forecast by nearly 29% to $33.5 billion and that doesn't even take into account a 3rd shot.

a reply to: BatSars

Hypothesis:

The vaccine is being used to lower the resistance to Covid-19 infection amongst those who were not resistant before being vaccinated. The healthy, the young, the previously Covid-19 infected.

Any credence to this hypothesis?

a reply to: BatSars

Great post. I see what they are trying to do. I know sometimes it feels like shouting into the wind when people twist and nitpick everything 100 different ways to justify their own bias point of view when the objective facts speak for themselves.

a reply to: MykeNukem

The truth is coming out slowly but steadily, like I said is not about the darn covid.

Administration officials had been struggling in recent days with how to respond to a rising number of Covid-19 infections and hospitalization among those who are fully vaccinated.

www.nbcnews.com...

The darn shot is not working, for exactly those that needed the most, they are still getting sick, getting in hospitals and dying.

The shot is no working. But they are mandating the darn crap

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: BatSars

Hypothesis:

The vaccine is being used to lower the resistance to Covid-19 infection amongst those who were not resistant before being vaccinated. The healthy, the young, the previously Covid-19 infected.

Any credence to this hypothesis?

From what I can tell, I would say probably not. Younger people still aren't affected by COVID-19 like 50+ are, and despite the incessant stories from the MSM claiming younger people are being treated, the data doesn't really support that: gis.cdc.gov...

Also keep in mind that "younger" patients are grouped far differently than elderly patients. 18-49 is one group, which spans 31 years, whereas 50-64 spans 14, and 65+ spans, essentially, 5-15 (sure there are 90 year olds, but not many). 5-17 is 12 years and then 0-4 is 4 years. So upticks in 18-49 could span 31 years of difference. If we saw a 40% increase in 18-49, 99% of those could be in people 40+ but the data wouldn't reflect that.

Anyway, maybe now I'm rambling, but so far that I can tell, the data doesn't necessarily support a claim that younger people are any less resilient to COVID-19 post-vaccination. What may happen, however, is that due to vaccinating with a leaky vaccine during a pandemic, we'll see variants popping out of vaccinated individuals that is deadlier and variants popping out of unvaxxed people that is more virulent, and should those two hit one person who is immunocompromised, those two could recombine and form an absolute monster that wouldn't care how your immune system was.

I'd also like to point out that young people are less likely to get extremely ill because they still have an organ known as the Thymus, which begins disintegrating at puberty and gets smaller and smaller over time.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: MykeNukem

The truth is coming out slowly but steadily, like I said is not about the darn covid.

Administration officials had been struggling in recent days with how to respond to a rising number of Covid-19 infections and hospitalization among those who are fully vaccinated.

www.nbcnews.com...

The darn shot is not working, for exactly those that needed the most, they are still getting sick, getting in hospitals and dying.

The shot is no working. But they are mandating the darn crap

For sure.

The only time I even heard anything about the elderly here was after our government tried killing them all by putting active C19 cases in the old folks homes.

They've had zero concern for the elderly, that's up to us.

a reply to: BatSars

Thanks for the thorough and quick reply! A doctor said the Covid-19 Vaccination lowers the effectiveness of one's immune system to certain diseases. In connection with this thread, it made me think perhaps "they" were using the vaccines to infect more human beings with Covid-19 (among other things). Covid-19 is BIG MONEY for the medical industry.

a reply to: MykeNukem
The elderly are expensive and are therefore increasingly outliving their welcome, via longer life-spans. That's how those who control this world view them.

originally posted by: Gothmog
My daughter was going to get the second vaccination .
I asked her to research first (no , I never tell anyone to get or not get a vaccination)
"Oh , dad , the first one was no problem ."
She took the vaccination , feeling great , and 2 hours later had to be admitted to the hospital for observation .
They kept her overnight and most of the next day.

All I can say for certain is...

I hope she is ok long term, and I am 100% in agreement with others who have said we cannot let this madness divide us any more. We are all being lied to. Massively. Those who trust, and believe, get the jab, and get in trouble, we need to be there for them. This is a big part of the awakening (if there really is one), and the medical mafia is one of the many things that needs to be completely destroyed.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: MykeNukem
The elderly are expensive and are therefore increasingly outliving their welcome, via longer life-spans. That's how those who control this world view them.

Agreed.

That's how they're viewing us too.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: BatSars

Thanks for the thorough and quick reply! A doctor said the Covid-19 Vaccination lowers the effectiveness of one's immune system to certain diseases. In connection with this thread, it made me think perhaps "they" were using the vaccines to infect more human beings with Covid-19 (among other things). Covid-19 is BIG MONEY for the medical industry.

Oh definitely HUGE money. Also explains why they hate things like Ivermectin that basically eradicates the viral load within 48 hours. Can't charge the government an arm and a leg for hospital stays when they aren't staying in hospitals because of a cheap drug.

As for the immune system being compromised - this was actually one of the things the FDA & CDC are "actively monitoring" (they came up with a long list of things on 10/2020 and that was one of them) - so far, data doesn't suggest that this is the case, but it will take time for something like that. It would be very difficult - even if everyone was being honest - to determine this as being caused by vaccines and not some other problem.

But so far, everything on their list of things they wanted to monitor, has come to pass. That's the only thing that we have yet to see data for, but it's entirely possible that it just takes a long time to prove a causal relationship.

That'll probably be one of the last things they admit to, tbh.

a reply to: BatSars

Over 80% are fully vaccinated. So 20% of the population has 50% of the infections, and 33% of serious illness. If we looked at higher ages, we would find even greater vaccination percentages, and a much bigger increase in risk of not being vaccinated.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Let's collectively redefine the phrase "it works," shall we?