PHE report, more vaccinated people are dying of COVID than unvaccinated

a reply to: underpass61

So if 50 died, and 100,000 are saved, it should be stopped because 50 died?

a reply to: zardust

What gene is being changed?

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

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www.fda.gov...

Or change the expression of a cell

See gene therapy products.

“All products that mediate their effects by transcription or translation of transferred genetic material”

It then goes on to include RNA as types.

Copy and pasting isn’t working right for me from the document.

a reply to: zardust

From nonspecifics link earlier.

Gene therapies vs mRNA therapies
Gene therapies involve making deliberate changes to a patient’s DNA in order to cure or alleviate a genetic condition. This can be by adding a functional copy of a gene, disabling a gene that makes a faulty product or changing gene activation.

The mRNA from the vaccines does not enter the cell nucleus or interact with the DNA at all, so it does not constitute gene therapy

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Similar nformation can found from multiple medical and scientific organisations. The vacines do not do what you seem to think and are not gene therapy.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Since the Warp speed shots are from the US we should probably use the definition from the FDA

Ultimately I don’t care what you label them. They are bioweapons.

originally posted by: zardust
a reply to: ScepticScot

Since the Warp speed shots are from the US we should probably use the definition from the FDA

Ultimately I don’t care what you label them. They are bioweapons.

You haven't shown that the FDA label them as gene therapy.

The part about you not caring I believe as otherwise you wouldn't post nonsense like them being Bioweapons.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

And how do you know 100,00 were saved? Maybe they would have been just fine without the shot.
50 was enough to raise the alarm before, why not now?

originally posted by: underpass61
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

And how do you know 100,00 were saved? Maybe they would have been just fine without the shot.
50 was enough to raise the alarm before, why not now?

Sounds like our dumb Chicago mayor. "With our gun buy-back program, we've saved over 500 lives this year".

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Is there a possibility that this hypothesis is correct?

The vaccine is being used to lower the resistance to Covid-19 infection amongst those who were not resistant before being vaccinated. The healthy, the young, the previously Covid-19 infected.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Did the slogan is "all lives matter", wow this is really turning ugly now, I guess no all lives are equal or they matter at all.

a reply to: zardust

mRNA vaccines do not enter the nucleus or change any DNA. It is not gene therapy.

Gene therapy is a technique that modifies a person’s genes to treat or cure disease.

www.fda.gov...

Again I ask, what gene is being modified? Answer, none. It is not a gene therapy no matter how badly you wish it to be.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Did the slogan is "all lives matter", wow this is really turning ugly now, I guess no all lives are equal or they matter at all.

Your post makes no sense. I am the one saying all lives matter, you are the one saying 100,000 need to die rather than 50.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Can you put a link to where I say that please, I will appreciate very much if you do.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: underpass61
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

And how do you know 100,00 were saved? Maybe they would have been just fine without the shot.
50 was enough to raise the alarm before, why not now?

The vaccine is being used to lower the resistance to Covid-19 infection amongst those who were not resistant before being vaccinated. The healthy, the young, the previously Covid-19 infected.

My daughter is being forced into taking the jab and I am furious about it. And yes, that's correct FORCED! She is in the final week of field work for her certification in her job, which she has spent the last three years getting her Masters degree from USC and taking on a mountain of student debt to achieve her goal. Now the school says they need proof of vaccination to certify her field work hours by this Sunday or her hours will be voided and she will have to start over. Mind you, these "Field Work" hours were all done REMOTELY via Zoom because of the goddam COVID and she has had zero real contact with any patients! She's a wreck trying to figure out how to repay her loans when they won't certify her for the job she trained so hard for. She has an appointment for 2:30 today to get the jab, she doesn't know what else to do.
God I HATE these VAX assholes.

a reply to: underpass61

Getting "the jab" sounds like such an innocent, harmless, thing to do. However when only-onset arthritis strikes at age 40, a lot of people will regret that they chose "career" over potential future health problems.

The best we can do is warn them, to keep our own conscience clear.

a reply to: underpass61

My daughter just found out this morning she have until november to get the jab or lose her job in the health care system.

She is out of her mind, see she have a two degrees one in biology and a second in cell biology, specialization, she knows what this shots have and the potential of soo much damage to humans and now she is been forced to get the crap she knows is dangerous.

I do not know what to tell her or say to her, she said she will try to find another job, but she owns a home, a car her life is on the line here is just despicable what this fascist government of democrats nothing but lap dogs to big pharma.

I am outraged, plain and simple,

a reply to: carewemust

If your position is the vaccine is worse than covid please give me the data that supports your statement.

a reply to: carewemust

Where are the freedoms to chose, were are our civil rights, what in the heck is going on in this country, I can not longer call it our country, is obviously in the hands of somebody else and is not us the people.

a reply to: underpass61

I agree no one should be forced to get it.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

So you’ll ignore. A technical paper from the FDA in favor of a webpage from the fda ?

That has said technical paper as it’s reference.

This is what happens when you try and discuss science with random people on the internet.

Good luck with life

a reply to: marg6043

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: underpass61

So if 50 died, and 100,000 are saved, it should be stopped because 50 died?

originally posted by: marg6043

Did the slogan is "all lives matter", wow this is really turning ugly now, I guess no all lives are equal or they matter at all.

Here you go. I asked why something that saved 100,000 lives should be stopped because 50 died. You said that means all lives don't matter in response to my post. It's pretty clear what you said. 100,000 should die so that 50 don't die from the vaccine, even if those 50 die from covid anyways.

My idea of all lives matters = allowing people to make an informed decision and choose their option.
Your idea of all lives matters = telling people what they can and can't do and that you know better.