Despite Vatican protest, anti-homophobia bill survives hurdles in Italian senate

Italian Liberals following Canadian Liberals with anti-homophobia bill. Interestingly such moves for Liberals like Marcon in France with the Covid Vaccination passports and liberals in Italy pushing bills like "anti-homophobia bil"

Before elections is problary isn't a good idea. The Italian liberals/LeftWing claim that the bill doesn't violate the Italian constitution.
But we heard that one before.

It would be interesting to see if Marcon, Germany, Biden Democrats follow up as well.
Despite Vatican protest, anti-homophobia bill survives hurdles in Italian senate

In a July 13 Senate assembly, lawmakers fiercely debated the so-called “ddl Zan,” with rightwing politicians pushing for it to be returned to the Senate Justice Committee for modification, and leftist parties arguing that after eight months of deliberation, with the bill having been approved by the House in February, voting should proceed as scheduled.

After presenting arguments over the constitutionality of the bill, senators voted 136-124, with four abstentions, that it does not violate the Italian constitution. That’s a procedural step that must come before approval of the law itself, and the vote often serves as a litmus test of where senators stand.

Good.

a reply to: LordAhriman

The usual reply with no substance.
You do realize this goes beyond mean words right? that means media arent able to debate most topics.

originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: LordAhriman

The usual reply with no substance.
You do realize this goes beyond mean words right? that means media arent able to debate most topics.

If it has anything to do with the Vatican popular opinion, I'm against it. They are a world power, and the biggest child molestation ring ever. In all of history.

If it's anti-gay, I'm also against it. Consenting adults having same sex relationships doesn't hurt anyone. Leave them alone.

Vatican elders b#ttf#cking little boys is a problem. I want to see religion go away. It's all fake.

You know ATS is screwed when people start siding with the Vatican.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: LordAhriman

The usual reply with no substance.
You do realize this goes beyond mean words right? that means media arent able to debate most topics.

If it has anything to do with the Vatican popular opinion, I'm against it. They are a world power, and the biggest child molestation ring ever. In all of history.

If it's anti-gay, I'm also against it. Consenting adults having same sex relationships doesn't hurt anyone. Leave them alone.

Vatican elders b#ttf#cking little boys is a problem. I want to see religion go away. It's all fake.

Now that was totally not the response I thought you would have but TOTALLY the response that is needed!

Can the Vatican still debate whether or not they like gay people? I don't think they follow Italian Law automatically.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: LordAhriman

The usual reply with no substance.
You do realize this goes beyond mean words right? that means media arent able to debate most topics.

If it has anything to do with the Vatican popular opinion, I'm against it. They are a world power, and the biggest child molestation ring ever. In all of history.

If it's anti-gay, I'm also against it. Consenting adults having same sex relationships doesn't hurt anyone. Leave them alone.

Vatican elders b#ttf#cking little boys is a problem. I want to see religion go away. It's all fake.

Have Vatican elders b#ttf#cking more, or less, little boys as compared to Italian Politicians over the years? And by how much?

This statistic is important if I am going to side with the Italian Politicians as opposed to the Vatican elders based on this criteria.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
You know ATS is screwed when people start siding with the Vatican.

ATS is probably not screwed but those siding with the Vatican are!

Yet, there should be no bills telling me how to think and if people think Gays are bad as long as they don't hurt others they can think what they will. Act on bashing the Gay person and now we all have an issue with you. Even straights like me.

Religion is not full of pedophiles that is sick people in THAT church having absolute power and being allowed to continue. The followers need to leave that Church the Leaderships sins as the representatives of Christ are to high heaven in shame.

Move out of that den of vipers Catholics. You will find a story about a God of love accepting to you in the other Churches who are not perfect either, but focus on the human and not their faults. A loving God and not a god of pedophilia.

Government on the other hand cannot be allowed to practice religion so that we don't get Caliphates and Holy Empires all run by bad people controlling our lives. Yet, some people want more Gov. SMH.....

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: LordAhriman

The usual reply with no substance.
You do realize this goes beyond mean words right? that means media arent able to debate most topics.

If it has anything to do with the Vatican popular opinion, I'm against it. They are a world power, and the biggest child molestation ring ever. In all of history.

If it's anti-gay, I'm also against it. Consenting adults having same sex relationships doesn't hurt anyone. Leave them alone.

Vatican elders b#ttf#cking little boys is a problem. I want to see religion go away. It's all fake.

a reply to: HawkEyi

What are The Vatican's concerns about this Bill?

Why are you opposed to this Bill?

Specifics please.

originally posted by: Justoneman
Yet, there should be no bills telling me how to think and if people think Gays are bad as long as they don't hurt others they can think what they will.

One, you don't live in Italy so this doesn't effect you. Two, it doesn't tell anyone how to think, it adds sexual orientation to ethnicity, political and religious persuasions as aspects you cannot discriminate against.

As someone who is religious, while I believe in the Bible's stance against homosexuality, I also believe that the only people they're really harming are themselves, and anti-gay bigotry is a worse sin.

a reply to: Freeborn

What are The Vatican's concerns about this Bill?

I think i understand the Vatican's concerns about this Bill.

Why are you opposed to this Bill?

I dont really have strong opinions either way.