Changing faiths

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: olaru12
Yeah but if it works for the person, why judge, right?

Right indeed! I don't judge people because of their faith or lack thereof; I judge them if they wear Brown shoes however.

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

I do share your concerns, when it comes to gurus especially the ones asking money.
the only lesson I learned from someone I'd consider a real guru was, that the only guru I need was with me all along. Which unfortunately makes him obsolete, and a very effective teacher we had a good laugh and went our ways.

Sounds like you are well underway with reikki. I use these labels as they just represent a concept, in this case healing through chi(another label). Not to recruit you for reikki. I only once took part in an official reikki session and it was a turndown, due to it's religious nature. Nevertheless much of the technicalities expounded were very helpful for me.

I gathered alot from reikki, I also was lucky as my dad was a practitioner when there wasn't all that much money to be made.

a reply to: olaru12
Had some trouble with brown shoes? That's a strange kind of sentence if not hinting on racism, why ever you would bring this forth to me, I am not a NAZI because of my heritage.

I've made clear often that for me every living being get's the same kind of base respect. All human beings deserve their right to dignity. No one is lesser or upper because of skin color, history, culture ... you get the idea.

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: olaru12
Had some trouble with brown shoes? That's a strange kind of sentence if not hinting on racism, why ever you would bring this forth to me, I am not a NAZI because of my heritage.

I've made clear often that for me every living being get's the same kind of base respect. All human beings deserve their right to dignity. No one is lesser or upper because of skin color, history, culture ... you get the idea.

The Brown shoes comment is a result of my religious mixture of surrealism and The Church of the SubGenius.

Praise Bob

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

Wait.....
what???
that wasn't a compliment?

Does my English sucks so much.... whats going on?

a reply to: Terpene

Do you believe in stones? That's a faith too so not offtopic. I use stones for certain rituals and daily things.

The latest example, on Friday I was doing house cleaning and my kid wandered inside with dirty rubber boots. I said like "Out you go with the rubber boots but pronto!" as I saw the trail of dirt on the fresh cleaned tiles and all through the staircase.

I wasn't mad or something but I was a bit harsh because she had not been listening the whole day. Just when I thought about if I was to harsh, I got the answer: One of my labradorit spheres fell down the window bench because of a wind gush that liftet the paper it was secured on.

Labradorit are to be said to help handling own intuition. So there was my answer.

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

Oh, absolutely. Of course you will or wont. Can't live in "maybe"... believe in signs...I get them, usually pan out, not always....and I welcome them...either, or no way.*

*5th Gen Sensitive

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

I don't regret that I was raised in an ultra sectarian Christian denomination. To us, all those other so called Christians were just Christian in name only. I still keep and cherish that view point.

I've gone from ultra sectarian to the broadest forms of Ecumenical Christian. The God (if you want to name names for the nameless) was with me through the whole journey.

So as far as reactions of my family goes:
One Sabbath after Church, when I was five, I sat on a swing looking up at the Sky. A thundercloud formed as I watched. I knew that God was behind it. So I made a song and sang it. Then I went in the house and sang it for my mother. She told me that it was wrong and that I should forget it. And I don't remember the words any more.

When I was about 21, I finally broke away from the sect and joined a more normal Christian Church. I visited my older sister and told her. She freaked out, "So then you will come after me to shoot me?"

That hurt. It hurt a lot. But that's how the sect viewed other Christians. And I knew that, and didn't hold it against her. But it hurt. It's like she didn't know me.

It's been a long life.

My current definition of the gods is this:
They are those without which I would not be alive and aware;
The necessary being without which I would not exist.
The Earth, Sky, Sun, Ocean, Plants, Animals, Ancestors.

There may actually be an unknown God, but then, that's unknown. But it seems to me that there is.

No one must believe my religion, because it is by nature inescapable, no preaching or conversion required.

a reply to: mysterioustranger

Often signs are very clear. The stone (see above your post) had to roll some distance and it could have been any from the about ten-thirteen stones I just had cleansed.

When I heard the first hard bounce I waited for the second one to know if it broke. I knew what happened and even before the stone rolled down the little tile slope to make up the difference between bathroom level (floor heated) and normal unheated floor, I knew that if it's the labradorite, I was too harsh.

It rolled right in front of my feet until I arrived at the door. That's a clear sign to me.

I don't ask my stones or similar for advice, I let it come to me.

a reply to: pthena
About those keeping us alive.
I had some very close calls in my life.

One being that short before the accident we had, we were waiting in front of a rail-crossing, I suddenly had the strong urge to open my seatbelt and turn around to get my bag from the trunk that was accessible over the back seats, to get something to drink.

If I did not had that urge, I would not by typing this because I was catapulted out the back window of the car when the truck plowed through us. The window was let down to the point it would not go further down so kids would not be able to reach their hands out during driving. I was flung out, during that the glass broke and I cut myself.

I don't really remember much afterwards, just until the point someone dragged me out of a small ditch right next to the crossing. Blue lights flickering and then I passed out again.

I could have landed on my face in the ditch and still drown being unconscious. People from the passing train called ambulance.

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

When I was 11 my friend and I burgled a house and stole a lot of alcohol. I drank a bottle of wine, then a bottle of vodka. Sitting on a horizontal tree branch, I looked at my watch: 4:15. Then all went dark.

I have a brief memory of my mother putting me in the bathtub, lukewarm water. I woke up in the hospital. The doctor took ahold of my arm, then recoiled, yelling, on account of the cactus spines.

It was a cold Winter night: 14°Fahrenheit (-10 °Celsius). My friend had left to go home and my older brother came to check on me, because the ravine that led to the pond was a usual hang out. I'd been crawling through the cactus and was a veritable pin cushion by then. And I'd pissed myself.

My parents called my friend's house and talked to his mom. My friend was all "I know where he is! I can take you right to him." It was about 8:00 pm by then, temperature dropping. His mom didn't let him go.

My brother was pretending like he had no idea where I was, thinking that he was keeping me out of trouble or something, like I would just sober up and go home with no one the wiser.

My dad found me somehow or other and carried me home over his shoulder, cactus and all.

The doctor said that 10 minutes more and I would have died from hypothermia.

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

Who doesn't love nature ?

So here's my feeling : they're gonna use that on us.

When the current Covid™ psyop wraps-up, maybe around 2023, then they're gonna whoomph us with the Climate-Change™ agenda again.

Centered around the concept of Gaia™ : the faithful will become zealots.

There is an aspect of Gaia™, that is about mind-over-matter.
This will be exploited by the Transhumanists™.

This will be the new religion of Climate-Change™.

James Lovelock : environmentalism has become a religion.

Science Direct : The Gaia Hypothesis.

A new religion of Science™ and Nature™ : who could oppose that ??



( Everything above is just guessing about the future. Don't really know anything. )

a reply to: Nothin
About environmentalism has become a religion...

I dare to say that most of the current people that act like they care about the planet, couldn't tell the difference between a fake nettle plant and the real one even after touching.

Watch what the WEF want's and then get yourself a beverage of your choice and read the PDF in this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Maybe not before sleep, if you're a vivid dreamer.

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

I don't belive in stones...

I belive, that what ever you belive in will magically manifest happenstance, that will solidify your belief...

a reply to: Terpene
Even if not, they are still pretty objects that solidify my believe. I was skeptic before I looked into them too.

I can not explain how I would drain aventurin stones until they were transparent and brittle over the course of weeks. It stopped at one point long ago and I wear the same kind of disk now for over ten years without any transparent parts. Not daily but whenever it's the most attractive to me on the morning.

Before that, I would run through half a dozen per year. It was about around the time I started to look into chi and TCM when it stopped, that's the only big marker I can make out.

The only faith I have (to a small degree) is that when I'm driving down the road most people coming at me in the opposite direction will not probably not randomly swerve head-on into me. However, I have in the past experienced a situation where exactly that happened. Which is why I have metal plates and pins and 27 screws in my left foot.

But I prefer to think of that as an anomaly. Most of the time, no problem. People stay in their lanes.

Otherwise, I don't see a pressing need to really believe in anything other than I exist for the moment, I have a very limited interpretation of reality due to my limited senses and intelligence, and someday I will die and there isn't anything I can do to stop it. What happens after that is so much anybody's guess to the point where I prefer not to guess.

I'm also pretty sure that faith doesn't require any donations.

a reply to: Blue Shift
That sucks.

Was it recently or will the pins and screws stay there? Had to wear a device to straighten my back and keep it supported for two weeks. Because I could not wear my hoodie sweaters with the pockets, I used magnets on the non stainless parts to keep my stuff around while I paced around in the electric wheelchair. Until I wiped my bank card...

They put it in ultra slow mode to protect me from crashing it, it was hilariously slow until I found out reverse is still faster

I had cut's from the lower foot up to the waist and around the back towards the spine, mostly clamped where they removed the glass pieces. That was the only reason they allowed me to use the wheel chair because I could not walk from all the pain and cut's.

Later physical therapy was horror but I was allowed to remove some clamps myself. That's long ago though, I was 13/14.

Get well

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: Blue Shift
That sucks.
Was it recently or will the pins and screws stay there?

Going on 18 years now. They'll stay until I'm cremated. I did have a stainless steel rod in my elbow from the same collision try to work its way out of my elbow in 2019. That hurted. Went to the hospital and they took out most of it.

It has become an example to me of just what people can get used to. Fortunately for me, I suppose, I did not skimp or pinch pennies when I bought my helmet. Had a crack in the back about four inches long. That would have been the end of the universe for me.

a reply to: Blue Shift
Motorcycle? These are the worst accidents we were told in first aid cours.

Maybe you had some kind of angel. That's why I sported a rear spoiler (car) so it can grab on it and keep up with me.

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

Thanks but won't be reading that PDF.
Did read the first page of comments in that thread though, so thanks.

Read a couple of Transhumanist™ flavoured books by Ray Kurzweil, about 15-20 years ago.
That was before coming to terms with my own mortality, so read them mostly from a fear-of-death, life-extension perspective.

But the thrilling ideas from those books, can also be terrifying.
One doesn't need to be afraid of the future, or of change, to find them scary as hell.

Don't remember most of my dreams anymore, but have a vivid imagination, and am a vivid daydreamer.

Faith : don't seem to have much.
Beliefs : might not have much, other than, you know : stopping at red-lights to not get tickets.

Have you mentioned how you see the relationship between faith and beliefs ?