Why most people who now die with Covid in England have had a vaccination

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
I'm sorry.

I didn't realise anyone from Cali would be reading this.

I hope I didn't hurt your feelings.

This is a derisive comment. Calling someone a guinea pig and oinking is derisive.

Why are you hostile to those who took the vax?

I totally understand why people dont want the vax and SHOULD NOT take it. Others have a higher risk from COVID. We arent all the same so we have different answers.

But there is a growing hostility toward those that came to a different personal conclusion.

I will call that out every time, its ugly.

originally posted by: BrujaRebooted

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: BrujaRebooted

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

It's the same test regardless of if you're vaccinated, part vaccinated or immune.

There is not one test, different labs have slightly different setups and suppliers so the cycles will differ dependant on the guidelines provided by the manufacturer.

Sorry I can't give you actual figures right now.

If it helps I can ask at work and get some numbers for some of the labs we use and should get an answer.



a reply to: IAMTAT

Im so sorry for the html mess Ive made. Im new and I just got myself wrapped around the axel.

If someone can delete this mess, or tell me how to delete it, id be much obliged!

a reply to: BrujaRebooted

originally posted by: NorthOfStuff

originally posted by: BrujaRebooted

originally posted by: shaemac

originally posted by: BrujaRebooted

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: LordAhriman

And you here defending the covid vaccines as usually again. I am sure they are all safe and effective and most of the side effects are super rare.

It's a hit and run.

Doesn't actually back up statement. Takes a potshot to relieve the Guinea Pig anger but never returns to back up the oinking rhetoric.

Im curious if you have been called names for not taking the vax? I certainly have for taking it. Seems pretty idiotic to me, that someone would feel such anger toward me doing so. But im seeing it more and more.

I have been called names...boy have I. But I dont care if people call me names. Especially on the internet lol
People are probably mad because 1. virus/chemical shedding is real and it is especially negatively affecting women. 2. because you are buying into a false narrative that is feeding a propaganda machine that the rest of us are trying to kill.

With that said, I wont call you a name because I actually support one's choice to inject themselves with an experimental concoction of chemicals as I sit back and watch what happens a year from now....many years from now. People should have that right to be test subjects. As long as it is VOLUNTARY. That is how medicines are created.

Unbelievable evil.

You freaks want people to suffer and die so that you can say ‘I told you so’.

If you dont want the vax dont take it, and if you do, you should not have to justify your reason, nor be derided by those that dont.

Its sick.

And no, my body is shedding NOTHING that is harmful to anyone else. That is utter bull#.

From one freak to another,

Fine, I won’t get the vax, that way I can avoid being called names and not be oppressed like the vaxed supposedly are.

But wait a minute! Which group can’t travel, can’t work, can’t go to sporting events, have to isolate, are called selfish anti vaxers and feel generally marginalized and have to undergo interrogation regarding if they received the jab or not by the zealots prevalent in today’s world?

Please raise your hand

The people that took the vax arent preventing you from enjoying the same open free society. If Im vaxxed, you arent a danger to me. Same as the annual flu shot. The admin that I believe is illegitimate and should be tried for treason is doing all that to you. We are on the same side.

Stay strong in your resistance. Its a very important civil rights issue as well as your total right to decide.

But its evil to make fun of people that took the vax, call them names, spread fear that we are all going to start dropping like flies (an expression Ive heard way more than once). Like they cant wait to be shown right. Im calling that ugliness out.

a reply to: BrujaRebooted

Your viewpoint is sensible.

The narrative that the treasonous leaders and experts are propagating is being gobbled up by a significant segment of society. As the narrative is being built around the vaccination by default those gobblers are vaccinated.

I know a fair amount of people that aren’t vaccinated.

One of them asked me yesterday if I had experienced “the wall” yet. I asked him what he meant and he explained that it was the response people had when he told them that he wasn’t vaxed (when asked, which is very often).

He explained that they become distanced and judgemental.

I had to reply that yes, yes I have.

The traitors would not get away with this if they didn’t have the backing of the media fed population.

originally posted by: NorthOfStuff
a reply to: BrujaRebooted

Your viewpoint is sensible.

The narrative that the treasonous leaders and experts are propagating is being gobbled up by a significant segment of society. As the narrative is being built around the vaccination by default those gobblers are vaccinated.

I know a fair amount of people that aren’t vaccinated.

One of them asked me yesterday if I had experienced “the wall” yet. I asked him what he meant and he explained that it was the response people had when he told them that he wasn’t vaxed (when asked, which is very often).

He explained that they become distanced and judgemental.

I had to reply that yes, yes I have.

The traitors would not get away with this if they didn’t have the backing of the media fed population.

it seems like ‘sensible’ has flown out the window, so I thank you for the comment.

a reply to: HawkEyi

The Biden administration is coming for us!

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This is going to be a fun battle.

If you read the article it quite clearly explains why this is so.

It's in defense of the vacinations.

a reply to: nonspecific

It's in defense of the vacinations.

Of course it is. They dont want create hesitancy.

There is not a great deal of hesitancy in the UK really.

And they use lots of nifty figures to explain it.

It's defending something defendable



a reply to: HawkEyi

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: litterbaux

No other "vaccine" in history has been treated like this.

That' has being my stance as well. I am all for vaccines. But these ones are sketchy.

Because they ain't vaccines.

They are the biggest unregulated human testing project in the history of humankind.

And it's totally voluntary. People really are stupid.

a reply to: BrujaRebooted

You're a smart guy and you know you are misquoting me.

I'm not angry at people who've had the Covid shots. I'm angry at the people who are becoming authoritarian about what people should have injected into their bodies.

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: BrujaRebooted

You're a smart guy and you know you are misquoting me.

I'm not angry at people who've had the Covid shots. I'm angry at the people who are becoming authoritarian about what people should have injected into their bodies.

Your words:

“Takes a potshot to relieve the Guinea Pig anger but never returns to back up the oinking rhetoric.”. aaaand Im clearly not a guy.

you are hostile to those who have been vaxxed and dont share your hysteria about it

and I dont care if you take it or not, you arent a danger to me nor am I to you so there is no need for any hostility, which is my entire point.

a reply to: BrujaRebooted

I don't know what you identify as but you seem to be taking this personally.

Reread my last post. I have no problem with people who have taken the shot. Half of my family have taken it and I love them, it's their choice.

I refuse to say the exact same thing again because you couldn't wrap your noodle around it the first time.

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: BrujaRebooted

I don't know what you identify as but you seem to be taking this personally.

Reread my last post. I have no problem with people who have taken the shot. Half of my family have taken it and I love them, it's their choice.

I refuse to say the exact same thing again because you couldn't wrap your noodle around it the first time.

You said I was misquoting you at first, so I showed you I wasnt.

Now it seems to me like you are backpeddling now you were called out on your oinking remark. Would you tell a beloved vaxxed friend or relative that they are guinea pigs and call their voiced opinion Oinking rhetoric?

originally posted by: BrujaRebooted

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: BrujaRebooted

I don't know what you identify as but you seem to be taking this personally.

Reread my last post. I have no problem with people who have taken the shot. Half of my family have taken it and I love them, it's their choice.

I refuse to say the exact same thing again because you couldn't wrap your noodle around it the first time.

You said I was misquoting you first, so I showed you I wasnt.

Now it seems to me like you are backpeddling now you were called out on your oinking remark. Exactly my intent.

No. You misquoted me.

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: BrujaRebooted

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: BrujaRebooted

I don't know what you identify as but you seem to be taking this personally.

Reread my last post. I have no problem with people who have taken the shot. Half of my family have taken it and I love them, it's their choice.

I refuse to say the exact same thing again because you couldn't wrap your noodle around it the first time.

You said I was misquoting you first, so I showed you I wasnt.

Now it seems to me like you are backpeddling now you were called out on your oinking remark. Exactly my intent.

No. You misquoted me.

I copied EXACTLY your words. would you tell your family members that took the vax that they are angry guinea pigs and their opinions oinking rhetoric? YOUR WORDS

originally posted by: BrujaRebooted

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: BrujaRebooted

I don't know what you identify as but you seem to be taking this personally.

Reread my last post. I have no problem with people who have taken the shot. Half of my family have taken it and I love them, it's their choice.

I refuse to say the exact same thing again because you couldn't wrap your noodle around it the first time.

You said I was misquoting you first, so I showed you I wasnt.

Now it seems to me like you are backpeddling now you were called out on your oinking remark. Exactly my intent.

Well I was going to point out how you misquoted but you've conveniently deleted it now.

If a member of my family tried to force me to take the shot or try to virtue signal about it I would tell them the same thing.

You aren't hearing me. I'm saying that folks like Lord whomever are trying to guilt people into taking it. I don't respect that.

Freedom of choice isn't subjective.

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: BrujaRebooted

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: BrujaRebooted

I don't know what you identify as but you seem to be taking this personally.

Reread my last post. I have no problem with people who have taken the shot. Half of my family have taken it and I love them, it's their choice.

I refuse to say the exact same thing again because you couldn't wrap your noodle around it the first time.

You said I was misquoting you first, so I showed you I wasnt.

Now it seems to me like you are backpeddling now you were called out on your oinking remark. Exactly my intent.

Well I was going to point out how you misquoted but you've conveniently deleted it now.

If a member of my family tried to force me to take the shot or try to virtue signal about it I would tell them the same thing.

You aren't hearing me. I'm saying that folks like Lord whomever are trying to guilt people into taking it. I don't respect that.

Freedom of choice isn't subjective.

I copied your very words!

You could direct you comments in such a way they you arent just saying ‘oh! he's one of those vaxxed people’ deriding the group as guinea pigs who oink their opinions. To remind you once again: YOUR WORDS. if he's coercing you tell him to mind his own phuking beeswax. You dont need to insult the rest of us that arent coercing you.