Who wants the World de-populated ?

a reply to: ThothHermes

yeh I suppose some of them are probably decent people and probably worked hard to get their fortunes no doubt
then there are those who seek to control our lives self proclaimed arbiters of everything because they have money and power and we are just serfs to work the fields to line their pockets and make their lives easier.

these are the people who tell us what to eat , what to drink , how to think , when to eat when to sleep when and where to #.

authority of things its all a bit #in annoying.
I wish there was a continent that was undiscovered and was just no ones and you can just go live there without being bothered by "authority"
or i could go be a colonist on mars with no government

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: ThothHermes

yeh I suppose some of them are probably decent people and probably worked hard to get their fortunes no doubt
then there are those who seek to control our lives self proclaimed arbiters of everything because they have money and power and we are just serfs to work the fields to line their pockets and make their lives easier.

these are the people who tell us what to eat , what to drink , how to think , when to eat when to sleep when and where to #.

authority of things its all a bit #in annoying.
I wish there was a continent that was undiscovered and was just no ones and you can just go live there without being bothered by "authority"
or i could go be a colonist on mars with no government

If the West does not get their turds together ? We will all be rice patty fertiliser for the Red Dragon . Progressives appeased the Visogoths and Vandals and how well did that turn out for Rome ?
410 AD the Germanics were already behind the walls due to weak liberal laws and they raised & burned Rome to the ground . Im sure the Germanics just had a bad day and were sorry about their sacking of the city lol lol lol Weakness is weakness forever .

Or an underwater fortress to reside in ??a reply to: sapien82

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originally posted by: slatesteam
I’d like to think that if a war went hot with China and they plowed the West Coast where I live, US citizens would be so outraged that they’d snap out of the divisive political and mental schisms and into the focus that their country and lives and everything we hold dear and take for granted was about to be kaput.

In other words it’s known that regardless of nuclear operations against one another, the western world vs. CCP would be a war of attrition for all the marbles.

Wouldn’t America need every last red-blooded American?

What am I missing g?

I had to look it up, but China is only 40% Vaxxed. Plus they are making their own vaxes.

www.reuters.com...

a reply to: ThothHermes
The Rosicrucians are not the same as the Freemasons. The Comte de Saint Germain was reportedly a member of both orders, and according to Manley P Hall he was part of the committee for designing the new flag of America and also said to have appeared as a mysterious stranger to the signers if the Declaration of Independence. It is said that George Washington himself knew of Adam Weishaupt and did not like him. It is recorded in the Library of Congress that Washington was aware of and not like the Illuminati ideas
www.loc.gov...
The average American does not understand that our country was founded on principles which Freenasonry believed but that the Illuminati version is corrupted.
It is quite unfortunate that that corruption persists today and that the more perverse elements such as the socialist revolution are taking hold. I am fairly certain it was not the original intent of either Washington or Saint Germain to bring a socialist type of democracy to America or the world for that matter, but it is what the NWO is trying to achieve.
I have noticed that virtually none of the Masons who frequent ATS have ever decried the advancement of the socialist regime and sone have been highly critical of President Trump, who tried to roll back the implementation of socialist and totalitarian instruments in America. Now we see the Biden admin aggressively pursuing implementation of the most radical socialist and communist agendas.
This is a war of unprecedented proportions. As far as WHO wants the world depopulated, that is an agenda which has been promoted at least since the early days of the Rockefeller empire when Rockefeller supported Margaret Sanger and the American Birth Control League which later became Planned Parenthood. This dovetails the early activities in Germany which took their cue from American Eugenecists if the Woodrow Wilson era, as described in Jonah Goldberg’s nook, “Liberal Fascism”, which the current crop of radicals hate because it exposes their real agenda. Layer comes Agenda 21 and Bill Gates and the Club of Rome.

originally posted by: ThothHermes

originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2

The issue with extremely powerful men and families is the fact that they DONT GET ALONG very well .

They don't have to get along well to occasionally form groups with whatever agendas they are pursuing. I doubt many on ATS see them as a country club of good buds. But they do communicate with each other and work together when the reward for doing so is attractive enough.

At present time, the "reward" seems to be "resetting" the Western world back to a feudal economic model.

You may not think them capable of much collaborative effort, but I think they are. Simply having so much wealth concentrated in the hands of a few individuals is disruptive, especially when those individuals pursue political goals.

Cheers

A feudal West does not stand against the Giant Chinese Red Dragon rising. The Western world does not even have 30 yrs to do a reset before China conquers us . I agree that they talk , but they are at odds constantly.
Armed Americans is what Japan & the CCCP feared most in any land based attack in America.
No matter how tech the world gets ? If China wants the West , they will need millions of troops on the ground .
So ill ask again …. What gain does the Western Elite & Societies gain by pandering to China ?
No Krupp or Rothchild would believe China that if China prevails that the Western Illuminati can maintain there status quo .
China hates everything Western & Capitalist and would chew the Illuminati ( if it was real ) to ribbons and they know it . Thx for your thoughts.

This just shows that you don't have the slightest understanding of China.

China isn't the soviet union. it doesn't want to conquer you, it wants you to exchange cash for good and services. China is a merchant nation, not a military one. In fact China believes itself to be the victim of foreign military aggression so intently that the very idea of it being the military aggressor is anathema to it.

China trying to conquer you would be as alien a concept as America trying to out socialist China.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
This just shows that you don't have the slightest understanding of China.

China isn't the soviet union. it doesn't want to conquer you, it wants you to exchange cash for good and services. China is a merchant nation, not a military one. In fact China believes itself to be the victim of foreign military aggression so intently that the very idea of it being the military aggressor is anathema to it.

China trying to conquer you would be as alien a concept as America trying to out socialist China.

Reads like complete propaganda.

Doubt China's neighbors in the region even come close to agreeing with you.

Right. Purely merchant.

For example, the way they "purchased" Tibet?

a reply to: ThothHermes
With regard to your concept of China, it must be understood that China is both a communist nation and an aggressive military regime and to completely understand things, one can study the late Prof Antony Sutton’s writings about both the secretive Order of Skull and Bones, their adoption of Hegelian Dialectic imported from Germany, and the original Bolshevik Revolution, which was financed by Wall Street. Without the backing of Wall Street and corrupt capitalists, the socialist revolution would not survive as it requires financing from capitalist markets. In spite of the many Marxists who continually decry capitalism, no communist setup would survive without capital money and the stealing of monies from taxpayers to implement their insane ideals.
That is why we have seen the greedy ones in America supplying China with the means to achieve their ends by giving then the advantage both militarily and by means of production in the industries which have gone overseas due to the Democrat sacking of American enterprise through excessive taxation and other disincentives which Trump also tried to stem the tide, and this is why they desperately had to stop him and get him out of office even with such voter fraud as we have never seen the likes of before and with the complicity of rino Republicans embedded in American government.

a reply to: ThothHermes

Oh my... that guy ultimatedaviour sounded more like Nigerian prince who needs to find a worthy soul to receive millions ... sheesh

Ive been involved in the Rosicrucians for 30 yrs . Thank you for your post , but Im extremely aware of how RC+C is different from York & Scottish Rite Masonry .
ps . The Illuminati live rent free in the masses heads … It does not exist . a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

AW has nor had any real influence on any Magical orders , because the Kabbalah centred Societies were well established long before Adam formed a club .
It would be akin to claiming Marx himself created Communism in Russia .
These are men who wrote books .
Books are harmless, it’s your Intent .
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: ThothHermes

originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2

The issue with extremely powerful men and families is the fact that they DONT GET ALONG very well .

They don't have to get along well to occasionally form groups with whatever agendas they are pursuing. I doubt many on ATS see them as a country club of good buds. But they do communicate with each other and work together when the reward for doing so is attractive enough.

At present time, the "reward" seems to be "resetting" the Western world back to a feudal economic model.

You may not think them capable of much collaborative effort, but I think they are. Simply having so much wealth concentrated in the hands of a few individuals is disruptive, especially when those individuals pursue political goals.

Cheers

A feudal West does not stand against the Giant Chinese Red Dragon rising. The Western world does not even have 30 yrs to do a reset before China conquers us . I agree that they talk , but they are at odds constantly.
Armed Americans is what Japan & the CCCP feared most in any land based attack in America.
No matter how tech the world gets ? If China wants the West , they will need millions of troops on the ground .
So ill ask again …. What gain does the Western Elite & Societies gain by pandering to China ?
No Krupp or Rothchild would believe China that if China prevails that the Western Illuminati can maintain there status quo .
China hates everything Western & Capitalist and would chew the Illuminati ( if it was real ) to ribbons and they know it . Thx for your thoughts.

This just shows that you don't have the slightest understanding of China.

China isn't the soviet union. it doesn't want to conquer you, it wants you to exchange cash for good and services. China is a merchant nation, not a military one. In fact China believes itself to be the victim of foreign military aggression so intently that the very idea of it being the military aggressor is anathema to it.

China trying to conquer you would be as alien a concept as America trying to out socialist China.

Well… thats like your opinion man !
China is bad news guy ! Ask any Hong Kong residents , Taiwanese , South Koreans or Japanese what their take is on China ?
Have a great day and stay out of China

I agree 100% I don’t know why any free country trades or visits a Communist country. Isolate them from the World and leave them be to their own civil rules and fighting.
It would take one generation of isolated Russians to tear things up on their own soil .
I wish America , Mexico , Canada and South America would form a super group and leave European, African , Middle East , China countries and the Orient to themselves.
Japan , Australia and NZ can go with the EU . ope reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus