We could be looking at the vaccine wrong .

We may be looking at this all wrong.

Just allow me a moment here to hypothesize

I got to thinking the other day about the vaccine and how the Government views those who are willing to take the Vaccine , A Vaccine that is this not FDA approved A Vaccine that was seemingly made out of thin air . When Historically it takes years even decades to properly produce a viable vaccine .

People are suspecting the Vaccine will kill everyone who gets it with in a few years , an obvious way for the " Government" to quail the population right ?

Maybe yes but I seriously doubt it .

The Vaccine is a symbol of submission or loyalty if you will , In the eyes of the those in power the People willing to line up and take the Vaccine with out question are those truly Loyal to Progress or the New Order if you will, and I'm not just talking about Americans I mean everyone in the world . I think it is quite obvious the Chemical template for this Vaccine was made years ago and now whether advertently or inadvertently the Virus is in motion , so the Vaccine has been manufactured.

My theory is this , Covid-19 was just the catharsis needed to force people into a choice of Loyalty or Rebellion .

A New virus will be set loose one that everyone with the Covid-19 vaccine will be safe from , but those who chose not to be vaccinated will be vulnerable to the new much much much more deadly Virus .

After all why would the powers that be want to kill those so willing to trust them and let live those who called there bluff ?

I know this is a straight up out there conspiracy , but alas this is ATS. Thank you for your time.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

New variants are already giving the "vaccinated" China Virus.
EPSILON already is suspected of making Pfizer & Modern 50-70% ineffectual.

At least it’s not a law like the affordable care act. I’m not going to get the vax to hell with the covid cultism and governments who care.

Which vaccine?

There are lots of them.



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Hmm, if i was an evil mastermind and ruled the earth...

I would already have all the resources and raw materials i needed to build ten deathstars.. I would test humans, i would only need a couple of million individuals, so they would need to be smart, not like those mindless drones that have harvested planetary resources for me..

The test would be "choose evil".. and those who would resist choosing the "only option" i gave them, would be the ones i would keep. The ones who chose evil because i forced them to do so, i would cast out.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Possibly, but perhaps it just the opposite.

The powers that be might want the clever, free thinking people who are willing to do some research in to the situation and go against the main stream, and against the peer pressure to be vaccinated, to survive.

All of the 'sheep' who blindly follow orders and just do as they are told, whilst easy to manipulate and control, are not really the type to move forward and 'think out of the box' if you will, to move forward and make the future.

Not to say that saving some of the sheep will not be useful, as they will just obey and can be used for various menial tasks such as mining and production work that just requires the ability to follow instructions (as proven because they blindly obeyed and took the vax) - the people controlling the sheep will be the un-vaxinated free thinkers.

Unfortunately, I fall in to the sheep class, not because I didn't realise what was happening, but just because I was stupid...

If it's the case, taking the vaccine would be cooperation. If the op is right, I prefer to die than collaborating.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

It doesn't matter what THEY intend to do.

The script has been written, and THEY must follow it.

Truth in fiction, or fiction in truth.

You decide.

originally posted by: 42dragonfly
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Possibly, but perhaps it just the opposite.

The powers that be might want the clever, free thinking people who are willing to do some research in to the situation and go against the main stream, and against the peer pressure to be vaccinated, to survive.

All of the 'sheep' who blindly follow orders and just do as they are told, whilst easy to manipulate and control, are not really the type to move forward and 'think out of the box' if you will, to move forward and make the future.

Not to say that saving some of the sheep will not be useful, as they will just obey and can be used for various menial tasks such as mining and production work that just requires the ability to follow instructions (as proven because they blindly obeyed and took the vax) - the people controlling the sheep will be the un-vaxinated free thinkers.

I think your POV is more reasonable.

Who wants to be constantly surrounded by yes men bobbleheads; that makes a dull boring future.

I am all for supporting the government I have known over the years, our freedoms are good and should not be abused. One of those freedoms is to deny a treatment that is not proven to be safe and necessary. I have an actual medical reason that I am not taking this vaccine, but if I didn't I probably would not take this vaccine since so many professional people in the world are skeptical that it is safe and necessary in this particular case. Now if this virus was extremely bad, I would take it to protect others I come in contact with...but this is kind of a wimpy virus and mostly people with defunct immune systems or who eat foods that block their immune response seem to be at most risk. Did our government call for a change of medications that put people at more risk...NO...did they remove the additives in food that increase our susceptibility to a worse outcome...NO. They could have taken action to lessen the risk but they did not, instead they focused on promoting fear to push people to take a vaccine that is not actually proven safe because it has not gone through enough trials to accomplish that. I am not stupid nor do I want to take something that could mess things up just so I can fit in with seventy percent of the people who cannot read research in this country and just accept twisted evidence as real.

I can wait and see how this virus works out in the future, I know plenty of ways to disable this virus from turning covid and my immune system knows what a cold is so it has good innate immunity to fight it off.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow
I think pretending to be scared "for" us shows how scared "of" us "they" really are. As they should be.

Take asymptomatic passports/ID cards and how far ya get asserting immunity. People get all bugeyes on ya.

Deprivation of rights under color of law and using public office for private gain is their strategy.

If the constitution is suspended in order to achieve nefariousness, there's no law protecting people dumb enough to knock on my door- especially if it's ajar.

I don't respond to fear and manipulation like I'm supposed to.

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I am still not going to be playing the russian roulette with these covid vaccines.

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I saw post just today of a family of 4 that was fully vaccinated with the two shots, waited the 14 days days did everything the MSM and the government told them to do. So they planned a trip and when in a few days one of them was sick, they went back home within a week the whole family tested positive.

This whole thing is a roll the dice event at every level.

originally posted by: 42dragonfly
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Possibly, but perhaps it just the opposite.

The powers that be might want the clever, free thinking people who are willing to do some research in to the situation and go against the main stream, and against the peer pressure to be vaccinated, to survive.

All of the 'sheep' who blindly follow orders and just do as they are told, whilst easy to manipulate and control, are not really the type to move forward and 'think out of the box' if you will, to move forward and make the future.

Not to say that saving some of the sheep will not be useful, as they will just obey and can be used for various menial tasks such as mining and production work that just requires the ability to follow instructions (as proven because they blindly obeyed and took the vax) - the people controlling the sheep will be the un-vaxinated free thinkers.

Unfortunately, I fall in to the sheep class, not because I didn't realise what was happening, but just because I was stupid...

In a moral and logical world yes .

But I'm afraid the goal is Control not a bright future. Think of it like a Bee-hive or an Ant colony , both are so very productive because the bulk of the inhabitants are mindless drones following the orders of a Queen.

If the Bees were flying around free minded no pollen would be gathered hints no honey , sure a few of the bee's might paint the Mona lisa or Sculpt the David or Even start there own Colony and then there is War .

Sheep are the goal mate , not free minds.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

they went back home within a week the whole family tested positive.

Mate I don't think the Vaccine was intended to keep people from contracting Covid-19 but more over it was to keep the Virus from killing them and make it less transmissible.

Much like the Flu-Vaccine.

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The logical assumption based on your theory is that all the loyal people have been vaccinated.

The authorities should leave the rest of us alone then.

So a regime born from mass genocide?

Nah the remaining population will eventually topple that regime

If I took a vaccine and see millions who didn’t die I think that would start a fire in the souls of millions

Humans will not be cattle and controlled its inside every human to rebel whenever they’re oppressed and it doesn’t matter how long it takes it will happen

But what’s more is

Suppose all world governments are in on it, it’s only going to take one or two country’s to double bluff, pull out and take control afterwards, that climate of trust doesn’t exist currently

Imo my hypothesis has Remained the same for over a year now after initially thinking it was real pandemic, the that it was a great reset, now I’m stuck at the idea it’s a financial war of attrition to collapse the CCP, to cripple supply chains so much that CCP cannot stop its $52 trillion housing boom/bubble pumping

You see all those ghost cities? Strange huh?

That’s the secret to the CCPs massive growth, they’re investments, tens of millions empty

It’s pure rotten greed

And it’s going to pop and collapse the CCP sooner or later, and yes it will take the world down with it but afterwards they’ll be no CCP

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

If it's doom porn you want how about this for a theory:

In the near future our industrial automation renders mindless labour slaves useless, with AI and robotics essentially the workforce has become obsolete and soon no longer cost effective.

They will need the brightest and best to program, service and maintain these new technologies.

I think it's much more likely vaccines will be a trojan, maybe not yet, they need to convince us they're safe first to increase uptake.

I reckon 90%+ of the global population will eventually submit to regular government control and vaccination, if they were all to die out we would be left with roughly the number postulated as sustainable for the planet. However, children are the problem, you can't have 100's of millions of orphans, i'm assuming any nefarious plan involves "immunising" our young, the real problem will arise once our schools start mandating "vaccinations".

Please, for the love of God, don't vaccinate your children if given the choice.

Kids already have loads of vaccinations when young.

Why not just use those as opposed to making up a pandemic?

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

If it's doom porn you want how about this for a theory:

In the near future our industrial automation renders mindless labour slaves useless, with AI and robotics essentially the workforce has become obsolete and soon no longer cost effective.

They will need the brightest and best to program, service and maintain these new technologies.

I think it's much more likely vaccines will be a trojan, maybe not yet, they need to convince us they're safe first to increase uptake.

I reckon 90%+ of the global population will eventually submit to regular government control and vaccination, if they were all to die out we would be left with roughly the number postulated as sustainable for the planet. However, children are the problem, you can't have 100's of millions of orphans, i'm assuming any nefarious plan involves "immunising" our young, the real problem will arise once our schools start mandating "vaccinations".

Please, for the love of God, don't vaccinate your children if given the choice.

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As i said, it's doom porn.

I'll continue to play.

mRNA is a whole new game.

You can't kill off the children until you prep the parents for the same fate etc etc. I think parents would notice if their kids start dying en mass. Unless of course you can blame it on a new disease.