When a person goes mad they go mad slowly and dont know it

I can see this happening on a world-wide basis per country these days. The amount of madness of people going mad is unbelievable . The psychiatric rooms in the government hospitals here are now actually having to turn away people . Here, take 3mg of Risperdal and go home. Something is wrong and seriously wrong with todays peoples behavior .
Is the worlds people really going mad slowly?

a reply to: musicismagic

The last 20 years has been a slide into societal and moral collapse.

Right is wrong, wrong is right, insanity is considered sanity, the insane run the asylum.

Welcome to Bizarro World.

a reply to: musicismagic

I think you're right and it's intentional. Now, where'd I put my damn thorazine, or was it my haliperidol (the little wuh wuh wuh white ones) or maybe I should just drink some lithium water from the sacred lake and ..... abide .....

I think it's the reduction in social contact coupled to a media fear driven 24/7 propaganda network. I am a bit of a lone wolf, I don't need a lot of social interaction, but by the same token, I don't like being limited and even I am feeling "something". Not bad though, as long as I can go camping/fishing and nobody tries to prevent me from leaving the country, we be good. I am not the go-postal type, even if I can build scary stuff (I used to design weapons for the military and CI), but there be crazies out there!

There are some rumours floating around though, that initially the jab does make behavioral changes by creating micro-strokes. These are noticeable in the form of both painful and silent migraines. The interesting thing is the rumour goes on to explain that graphene oxides are in the jabs and that somehow coupled to 5G, it will be used as a pain/pleasure control mechanism. Could all just be someone's wild speculation, could be real. Thing is any new tech we generally don't find out about until 20 years later.

Cheers - Dave

Lol

Personal retrospection is always good for ya mate!

Well done.

The primary question is, who is crazy? You or me?

The answer is simple.

Those who control the medical field are sane.

Everybody else is only waiting for the sane to accuse them of being insane... and that is all it takes.

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originally posted by: pheonix358
Lol

Personal retrospection is always good for ya mate!

Well done.

The primary question is, who is crazy? You or me?

The answer is simple.

Those who control the medical field are sane.

Everybody else is only waiting for the sane to accuse them of being insane... and that is all it takes.

P

It is well known in the medical field what I stated. One goes mad slowly and don't know it. It just seems like these events are happening at a much faster rate. For example, in China it is being said that 30 million Chinese are taking Risperdal, so I guess the Chinese too are going mad slowly ?

I heard, several years ago, about a chemical eposure that affects people from their grandmother being exposed. It is a strange affect that skips over one generation without any adverse affects to the mother of the victum or the grandmother that was exposed. The second generation after the exposure has the dammage from whatever chemical the grandmother was eposed to.

If you count back 2 generations and allow for 20 to 30 years each, that puts the grandmother exposure to the 60's for the current people around 20 to 30 years old. And no one remembers what chemical exposure happened in the 60's that experienced it, if you know what I mean.

The problem is I have no idea what this affect is called to look it up.

Someone might want to look into this deeper.

This could explain the maddening at this time or the trigger that causes it.

We're all mad, here.

I think people know that they are trying to drive them mad...I think a lot of people are aware of this fact; and have found ways to cope so they stay sane in the mist of the mind control experiments.

There no doubt is an increase in mental illnesses, but to describe all mental illness as 'mad' does nothing to dig in to the detail of your purely anecdotal story.

Firstly, I would ask, do you have any evidence of 'psychiatric rooms' turning people away? That too is completely vague description of the various types of mental/psychiatric wards available. Generally, in most civilised countries, a patient is referred by a professional GP to a pre determined psychiatric unit, that patient will not be turned away.

If a patient self refers then it is likely they will get turned away from a psychiatric ward because there are procedures in place. However it is very rare that a patient would self refer directly to the ward, rather than reporting to their GP or mental health support network.

So whilst I think mental health is deteriorating, there are many many factors which your OP doesn't consider.

Not only that, the mental health support systems are indeed not equipped to deal with many circumstances.

With regards to Risperdal - this would be one of a few drugs used to treat psychosis and other similar symptoms. It must be prescribed under safe procedures and it would be rare in any western medical scenario for a patient to be suffering such that they are prescribed the drug and then allowed to go home and take it without any further monitoring, support or treatment.

Your original term mad just refers to psychosis? Or depression, anxiety, disphoria (of whatever nature)? etc etc

I'm afraid we've got another fearmongering OP with only a few lines and zero substance to back it up. This doesn't help anybody and may even be one of those small fulcrums that serves to actually make the entire situation worse for people IE you are just adding to worry.


In short, yes, mental health is deteriorating, but your OP is just a load of balls.



Oh I also just realised your title has nothing to do with your OP.

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: musicismagic

The last 20 years has been a slide into societal and moral collapse.

Right is wrong, wrong is right, insanity is considered sanity, the insane run the asylum.

Welcome to Bizarro World.

Spot on, and there is a reason. It's all in Romans 1 and other places in the Holy Bible, the homosexual perversion a huge red flag, a very sign of bent minds, NJKV "For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due." All sorts of evil mindedness, NKJV "unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents..."

What you're seeing are the hellbent that God has allowed the mush of their reprobate, KJV, or debased, NKJV, minds to take over. Make no mistake. This is why they make no sense, are the Bizarro World where the perverse is the norm, darkness, instead of light, the norm. They are thoroughly enemies of God and servants of Satan. James 4:4. Again from Romans 1, NKJV "Professing to be wise, they became fools" "who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator" "And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting" It's all there in Romans 1, and look at the warning of these people in 2 Timothy 3:1-5. Your liberal pervert, flying his pervert flag, is of a diseased and wicked mind that God gives them over to. Period.

Funny how, when it comes to the word of God, you can find a page of truth that is like news of the world that's before your very eyes, reprobates doing what reprobates do, in every other headline, that, ironically, the wicked cannot not even comprehend. 1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. Ironic how the only place you will find the whole truth, the Holy Bible, is only even sought by a minority, whose eyes are open.

Being spiritually dead, Ephesians 2:1-5, spiritually blind, is the ultimate stupidity, and will be damnation to all the unrepentant Godless. Enemies of God are damned men walking, and hardly fit to lead anybody.

Earth 2021: You don't have to be mad to live here.... But it helps.

I'm glad I was always mad, it made things easier to explain. But these days? Even I am confused how things got this insane.

a reply to: musicismagic

I once knew someone who went mad quickly and he knew it.

He said to me, "I think I'm going mad." Next day, he was mad.

What about that then, eh?

a reply to: musicismagic

In many cases what we are seeing, is more a temporary loss of mental control. The problem is, this usually reflects the emotion of anger, that the person is expressing.

Another problem with anger, is that it can be very addicting. People don't realize how addicting anger can be, because they usually feel it is normal, expected, and justified. It only becomes a problem that is noticeable, when they see it in others.

 A new study suggests uncontrolled frustration can lead to anger addiction anger addiction. It can also quickly escalate to verbal or physical violence, causing harm to you and those around you.

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a reply to: musicismagic

Maybe in some kinds of madness, many psychopaths and sociopaths do not know they are crazy, many of them do and simply do not care.

Many people whom go mad go so suddenly and find it terrifying.

My Example, I was studying for a degree in Electronic Engineering and left my meal for a moment to go to the toilette.

Came back - disgusted at the state of that toilet off the refectory which had been painted inside by someone smearing there poo on the wall's, I did not even sit on the seat of the toilet it was so bad despite being in pain due to an upset stomach myself and found it very difficult to wash up afterwards due to there not being a space that had not been smeared in poo by whatever lunatic had done that.

Ate the rest of my meal, being a student money was tight and I was not going to waste it.

Went to the next lecture were the professor had a white beard and a huge gut then it hit me, don't know if I had been spiked after leaving my meal or something but it started a break down.

Instead of the professor all I could see was Father Christmas, had this urge to chuckle and became two people in my own head, one fighting for control and terrified and the other laughing and jubilant and mocking, two very different and distinct emotional entity's, me and this other thing that felt like a crazed violent caged animal laughing and tearing at me from within but whose thoughts I could not read except those it forced into my mind.

Thing's got worse, I the terrified me that is won out and took back control but could not concentrate, this was coupled with voices, a high pitched constant whistling sound in my ears and a sense of pressure and buzzing in my temples that did not stop, life became intolerable and as screamed aloud at this to get out of me and started to walk trying to clear my head at all hours of the day and night I also felt a sensation of being violated between my leg's, now I am definitely a hetero male so take that as you shall but it made me even more angry and upset trying to fight against something I could neither grasp at nor see but which seemed to be able to do to me as it wanted.

It was worse for my family having there youngest child and brother going insane and shouting at what they perceived as imaginary being's, they even thought that I was on drug's which I was not.

In the end I ended up talking aloud, this was in part to drown out the voices and alien thought in my head, thought's that were unpleasant, desires and ideas that were NOT mine and a fragmenting tormented mind.


Psychologists have there answer but not to the weirder parts of my suffering, objects vanishing, changing and moving of there own accord and other members of the family having seen this happen so NOT hallucinations.

And yes I did try to Top myself a few times because it was beyond all human tolerance but I have settled with this, if there is another world when I get over there somehow, some day I am going to get those being's whatever or whoever they are and make them suffer worse than they did me, it's not about revenge either, I suspect they have a long list of victims and if nobody ever does anything about them they will have many more afterwards so have got to be stopped permanently.

Now I am not God and admit that even if after what they did to me I do somehow survive they have probably crippled my soul somehow BUT I know that were there is a will there will always be a way and time, time is not there friend.

So madness, no it can come on swiftly, even if what I suffered was NOT madness it is to society exactly the same thing, anyone seeing, hearing, feeling what I did would go mad even if they were the most level headed sane person you had ever met, they would end up stark raving lunatic's or at the very least broken.

I felt betrayed by God, the name of Jesus at first worked but then they came on even stronger in there attack.

But other forms of Madness are simply illness, illness in the form of your brain's chemistry being out of balance.

Rather a more interesting question would be who is sane, what if everyone is just in a trance and going through live in various levels of being asleep never truly awake?.

Madness though in it's most usable measure would be when a mind can no longer function in society, when a person disrupts society around them so by that measure madness is everywhere, having your own mind and ideas is a form of madness in that it does not comply with a machines definition of sanity which would be an unimaginative, empty fact based mind without any free thought.

By that measure is madness even real or is it just someone outside the bounds of socially perceived normality which is itself an undefinable and very fuzzy measure of what is normal as that can only ever truly be measured as by what is acceptable to a social group.

To the native American tribal in the amazon the white man destroying the world, flying in poison spraying aircraft, poisoning the waters is insane, to us leaving behind our comfortable modern lifestyle and going to live a shorter and harder life hand to mouth living like those people would be insane.

Sanity and Insanity in this sense are not clear cut.

But then there are people whom lose control of themselves, people that like to harm other's, people that are so self centred and lacking empathy that there very existence is a threat to society yet most of them fit well within what is regarded as sane by our society, Psychopath's and Sociopath's so long as they do not murder or commit any crimes that are detectable fit within social norm's even if in fact they are among the most dangerous in our society, in fact they seek out positions of power, political careers and professions that give them what they want, in fact our society clap's them on the back for going and getting what they want and stepping all over everyone else in the process.

So is society Sane?.


I suffered all kinds of weirdness in my decline, seeing demons, having images of people - all men with deranged looking eyes standing in a desert on the other side of a dry river with no water in it among the red sand and stone staring at me while a voice asked me if I would accept becoming a medium to which I said NO!.

Even if what I suffered was REAL it would still leave you crazy, ever see real mediums most of them are borderline deranged.

originally posted by: beyondknowledge
I heard, several years ago, about a chemical eposure that affects people from their grandmother being exposed. It is a strange affect that skips over one generation without any adverse affects to the mother of the victum or the grandmother that was exposed. The second generation after the exposure has the dammage from whatever chemical the grandmother was eposed to.

If you count back 2 generations and allow for 20 to 30 years each, that puts the grandmother exposure to the 60's for the current people around 20 to 30 years old. And no one remembers what chemical exposure happened in the 60's that experienced it, if you know what I mean.

The problem is I have no idea what this affect is called to look it up.

Someone might want to look into this deeper.

This could explain the maddening at this time or the trigger that causes it.

Epigenetics

Going "Mad" is a whole variety of psychological conditions, sometimes many different ones, in differing degrees, at the same time. Consequently, the term going "Mad" really doesn't have much meaning.

In any case, and to the OP, it is true that many people do not realize they are going mad. In fact, psychological issues can be so subtle they even fool other people around them such as loved ones. Before my father passed, he had dementia. His dementia had gone unnoticed by us (his family) and even his doctors until his dementia had become very advanced and obvious. Initially, everyone thought he was just getting hard of hearing. Everyone also thought the reason he moved so slowly was because of age, arthritis and general 'oldness'. It turned out the reason he was saying "what?" all the time wasn't due to his hearing, it was due to the fact his mind couldn't process what was being said to him fast enough, so to fill the gap (while his mind caught up) he would say "WHAT?" This way, a person would have to repeat what they said, and he could validate his response against what he thought his mind processed previously. And, the reason he moved so slowly wasn't due to his 'oldness', it was that his mind couldn't process coordinated movement any faster than that.

When he would repeat certain elements of a discussion, he would change his words just enough to make it seem like it was a different angle to the same discussion, and not look like he was repeating himself (a classic flag of dementia). However, what he was really doing was forcing the same discussion over again so his mind could fully process what people were saying. Very clever, in a demented sort of way, but that's how the brain compensates. My father was a brilliant engineer who held fully onto his faculties until near the end. A very logical man. He never just started rambling random stuff, but technically he was going "Mad".

None of this was intentional, or deceptive, on his part. The mind works in amazing ways, and is able to compensate for things even to the point of fooling others. In retrospect, the family and all of his doctors looked back on the various things we'd noticed over the years and it all made sense then. Now I feel like we should have seen it years earlier, but nobody did.

originally posted by: and14263

Firstly, I would ask, do you have any evidence of 'psychiatric rooms' turning people away? That too is completely vague description of the various types of mental/psychiatric wards available. Generally, in most civilised countries, a patient is referred by a professional GP to a pre determined psychiatric unit, that patient will not be turned away

Purely anecdotal, here in canada a friend of mine works in mental health and says that since the pandemic and staff working from home the mental health system is falling apart. She said that a suicide attempt that was released from hospital went four months with no after care until she attended to it because other workers couldn't be bothered/ too stressed/fighting politics.

I myself called a crisis line a couple times during the pandemic and was hung up on once and other times the workers could not refer me to any local help. In my early twenties, I was co manager of a crisis line and know that this is unethical and not how we were trained. Today's mental health workers are clearly not coping either at this point.

It's also impossible to get a doctor at this time. Our local pharmacist keeps trying for me but none of the clinics are taking new clients. I mentioned this to them as this is one of the most desirable living locations in canada so why are doctors not flocking here. They don't know either and have an empty doctor's office available for rent at a pittance...$900 a month and the pharmacy even offered to manage it to boot. No takers. So I am starting to wonder if this is also intentional on the part of the government. Simply making routine medical care impossible short of emergency care.

a reply to: infolurker

The next serial killer will likely sell his blood and parts art showcase from prison, and someone will buy it for artistic value and what ever statement the artist is trying to make.


If Jesus is comin, he better don the Rambo headband and a M60 for good measure. He's gonna have to teach some the hard way.

a reply to: LABTECH767

Had quite a few friends who about twenty five years ago ended up in mental institutions. You could sort of tell something was amiss..........

Starting with tuning in to the Radio 1 late show with was it Janice Long or some other presenter, the BBC were sending out secret messages through the airwaves hinting at the location of a secret base where once he had decoded the messages a ticket number 13 could be obtained and then used to fly to a secret base the other side of the moon.

Another guy who was listening to pretty much constant Slayer records started saying they had targeted him through their vinyl with orders and he was being ordered by the band to carry out certain missions. Holy smoke he started acting upon them too. Then the arrests started, if the Police saw him in the street they'd bundle him into the van and lock him up. But the lad was ill, initially we thought it was funny to be around him yet after a while it became dangerous. Poor soul.

Another one too who started talking really strangely, like the voice totally changed accent so strange. He had a decent job, then one day gave it all up said he was going into producing Gnomes. Took around eight months to come up with the sample, kept painting on extremely fine layers of mould compound but it took forever. Then gave it up after deciding a new career beckoned, this time in ski jumping. Bought a set of nailed second hand standard skis from the local car booty, announced to everyone he had gone ski jumping professional under the name Robbo the Rooster. It wasn't long before the NHS took him in where he's been in and out of that establishment ever since.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Hit me in late summer of 1993 about mid way through October, yes some of the symptom's I describe are the same as those in the US whom claim they have been targeted and Jesse Ventura did an episode on the subject called the Brain Invaders but really I can not imagine anyone targeting me so it was mostly likely a mixture of someone spiking my food, the fact I was already what we would recognize today as on the Autistic spectrum and also head injury's I received about six month's later BUT many of the paranormal experiences were also witnessed by other members of the family so?.

I did not talk about what I was suffering, I mean how do you tell your mom when you are her son that something you can't see is doing something like that to you, that you can't get a wink of sleep, sleep with a crucifix or a bible or anything over your privates to try to ward off the ongoing horror, hear people in your head whom on one occasion when in exhaustion I broke begged to leave me only for one of them to say "Not till we've had our pleasure".

Here is my take on it, the paranormal is real, being exposed to it makes most that are no longer within the accepted parameters of what it is to be regarded as sane in society since it is outside the realm of most people's experience.

There are Demons now what they are is another matter, bad people is there a society that enslaves human soul's and uses the soul as raw material in a non material world? or are they really another species of other dimensional entity's that are simply evil toward us and regard us also as less and there's for exploitation and use as they see fit.

You can not create a bridge of thought with those that have not experienced these thing's and for them just as for me before I suffered it the subject is crazy sounding and uncomfortable as well as outside there view of reality so obviously from there perspective unreal.

Reality though is subjective, the eye or rather mind of the beholder here is the key, every mind is unique and every reality is different even if they do not think that.

My experience with the paranormal though began as a small toddler and it also includes UFO experience, one early memory is of a hissing asthmatic sounding - invisible but very strongly present - man whispering into my right ear as I played with a toy in the back garden, the man said this to me "Poor Poor Paul, you are going to have such a sad awful bad terrible life I feel so very very sorry for you, I'll tell you what give me your SOUL and I will give you a wonderful wonderful life my name is Satan", when it let go of me and I was not frozen any longer unable to move I ran into the house in terror, I did not know this person but had seen some hammer horror movies were Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee used that name as one was driving the other whom played Dracula the vampire back with a cross in his hand's so I associated the name with Evil and of course that is exactly what it is, that is not to say that the creature that whispered into my ear was actually him as it sounded just like an asthmatic old man whispering and later I found out that my sister and her friend had played with a ouiga board in the shed just a few feet from were I was playing and the glass they were using had started to move of it's own accord only for Jeanette's friend to then smash the glass in fright and run out of there, I never found that out until well over twenty years later when they were talking about it.

In the same house I experienced a constant sense of fear and darkness and my mom eventually got us out of there since she too believed it was haunted but while living there I experienced seeing three small guy's with black visor's standing by a D shaped object with ramp down at the back, they were small like children but with huge heads and the object was about the size of a car but standing in the garden on leg's and I was in my mothers arms feeling terror looking at them, my mother remembered standing by the window holding me in her arm's and in absolute terror seeing something shoot up into the sky leaving a trail like three fire work flames behind it.

I seem to remember a dark place so they took me somewhere, dark cylindrical and big with something that had a feminine but not human sense to it that explained something to me, I believe they did something to me as on the right side of my skull there is a deep U shaped scar on top between my right ear and the top of my skull.

Then there is the blue crystal that glowed and lasted for about two week's that was embedded in my mothers friend Betty Callaghan's house, I could point it out to adults but only other children seemed able to look at it and they soon forgot though I was fascinated by it, over about two week's it became more dim and glowed less and also became more and more translucent, I mentioned it to my sister and she saw it as she took me to the local shop to get me some sweet's and then despite only being a young teenager herself at the time her eye's seemed to glaze over then she lost interest as if it was somehow blocked from people's mind's or exerted some form of influence over there ability to see it.

On another occasion I was in the back of my mothers car with my sister when we were driving through a town I had never been near called Huyton in the northwest of England, I had this sense of something taking me over and started to claim to be someone called John as his memory's began to flood my mind along with the fully formed mind of an adult displacing my smaller child sized mind, I shared some of his memories of old cars from the 30's or 40's on the streets, knowing were the public house he drank at was and were the old shop was, they were still there and my mother had the hairs on the back of her neck standing up on end, then as we passed a certain point it was as if HE could no longer hold onto me so he failed to take me over and was pulled back out, I tried to keep hold of the memories and sense of clarity but he was not me, it is something that has convinced me that many so called cases of re-incarnation are actually nothing short of cases of genuine possession by the deceased and NOT genuine reincarnation though it is possible that CAN happen too, I do NOT believe it is the rule though and is probably only done in some circumstances rather than a blanket reality for all soul's.

At the age of 13 I was asleep when I WOKE UP flying somewhere, I was in that sleepy state of mind however and did not react immediately but tried instead to roll over or go back to my body only to feel something or someone had hold of me and I could not fight, below me was a jungle and despite it being night time I could see the leaves on the top of the canopy in exquisite detail suggesting that the soul has far better night and distance vision than the body does, I was being taken somewhere at great speed and then I saw what could only be a loggers camp coming into view and down we went and right through the roof of a roughly converted shack into an area with tables, dirty men smoking and drinking at them and a young child of maybe nine of that whom looked south American native - no eyebrows and long black hair down her back - staggering about not what you would call dancing on a state wearing a sack cloth poncho over her, I tried to resist but was forced into the top CROWN of her head by whatever it was that had hold of me.