Why they will make the vaccine succeed

a reply to: LordAhriman

No, it seems that's what your ilk are suggesting about the vaccines.

Wrong again, that's 2 from 2.

My Ilk follow scientific principles that have existed for a very very long time. In fact this is how the WHO describe people like me;



I follow the facts wherever they lead, yet I am a vaccine sceptic. Unlike yourself, I am not prepared to ignore the facts and blindly stumble through this.

There are some facts below, maybe see if you can absorb them.

80% Do Not Get Sick From Covid, Covid has a global IFR of 0.15% which drops to near zero if you're healthy and under 25.

a reply to: myselfaswell

The stupidity is painful to witness.

The Covid shot is dangerous. I'm glad most people are fine so far but any one of the recipients could have taken a turn for the worse after they volunteered to be a guinea pig.

a reply to: sprockets2000

They are well on the way to setting up exactly what they want.

I think it is much simpler than we all think.

I think this is the easiest way to get the masses to comply with the digital IDs and passports. A Person of Interest real life set up.

Especially for those that aren't so quick to buy into Siri, Air Tags, and Ring. Those that will resist buying and putting on their own dog collar, will be quicker to get a shot that will be required for travel, marketing, and for employment.

Some people say the vaccine is the "mark of the beast". I don't believe it is. I do think that the ID they will require to prove that you have complied, may fit that bill though.

originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: LordAhriman

Your not qualified enough to be "ilking" people
You are constantly trying to diss conspiracies on a conspiracy site with conspiracy theorist.

Just admit it...you ARE Rachel Maddow

Every single thing about this virus and vaccines is suspect.
If you want to sit here and try and brow-beat everyone for asking questions, then maybe you should find a new site to chat on.

Nah, I'll stay. I've been registered here for 7 years, and lurked for at least 5 before that. I LOVE good conspiracy content, but that is no longer what this place is about. Trump, qAnOn, Covid, and the subsequent vaccines ruined the fun of this once great site. I'm staying in hopes that it returns to its roots soon. Yall went full potato, worshipped a billionaire politician, and took the wrong direction on something that the entire world should have gained unity from.

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: myselfaswell

The stupidity is painful to witness.

The Covid shot is dangerous. I'm glad most people are fine so far but any one of the recipients could have taken a turn for the worse after they volunteered to be a guinea pig.

And no follow up testing. They are quick to say the number of people negatively affected by the vaccine is much smaller than the number that have been vaccinated already. But they are only counting those that have been affected badly enough that hospitalization was required. How many will have late term effects, and how many have negative effects that have been ignored, or have not been identified, because no testing was done?

Without assessing for untoward effects, I think it may be a bit premature or disingenuous, to say how many people have no side effects related to the vaccine.

Just my opinion.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

After a couple of weeks AT THE MOST the vaccine and spike proteins are completely gone from your body. The chances of anything happening after that are zero. Have some people died or had really bad reactions? Yes. But side effects after a couple of weeks are simply not going to happen. Most of them happen within 48 hours, and it's a sore arm and a fever.

a reply to: LordAhriman

it's a sore arm and a fever.

Or the intensive care unit.

Congrats on surviving the Covid shot! So far.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

So far...

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

After a couple of weeks AT THE MOST the vaccine and spike proteins are completely gone from your body. The chances of anything happening after that are zero. Have some people died or had really bad reactions? Yes. But side effects after a couple of weeks are simply not going to happen. Most of them happen within 48 hours, and it's a sore arm and a fever.

This what they believe to be true. Since they are dealing with a "novel" virus, and an vaccine that is in experimental use, the court is still out on what the possible side effects may be. Right now, they are simply making educated guesses.

Their track record of educated guesses, that eventually had to be recalled, is not the not very reassuring for me. It is enough for many, and I have no beef with that.

So you get 1000 or so mRNA in the shot that mirrors the virus RNA except for the mRNA is inert. The body sees it and says what do we have here, lets get it. The immune system develops T-cells and other things to get rid of this invader and it does so rather quickly since the inert mRNA is not reproducing new viruses as the normal RNA would be doing in some kind of battle with your body.

So in all this how does it change your genes...lol

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
Or the intensive care unit.

Congrats on surviving the Covid shot! So far.

I admit people have bad reactions, and even die from it. But the mRNA (the only active ingredient in Phizer and Moderna) is gone in a couple of hours, and the spike proteins are gone in a couple of weeks. There is ZERO chance of someone having a side effect after that. Everything the vaccine did, other than leave antibodies that know how to fight covid, is gone. There's nothing left to cause a reaction. Nothing. Nada.

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

Or the intensive care unit.

Congrats on surviving the Covid shot! So far.

IDK, within the circle of family, friends and workers I know of 4 deaths and a dozen or so people who spent weeks in the hospital who if they got it a year ago most likely would have died, one friend in his 50s said they made him spend 3 weeks on his belly and a couple of times he thought he was done for. Within the vaccinated group of the same people who are 1000x+ more than who I know who have even got the virus there has been zero side effects with one person saying they felt like they had a small flu for about 5 days, zero of them got COVID afterwards too, and we are all no masks, no distancing etc. As far as my family we had zero reactions, hardly a sore arm for a day at worst.

So is that all pure luck?

originally posted by: LordAhriman

I admit people have bad reactions, and even die from it. But the mRNA (the only active ingredient in Phizer and Moderna) is gone in a couple of hours, and the spike proteins are gone in a couple of weeks. There is ZERO chance of someone having a side effect after that. Everything the vaccine did, other than leave antibodies that know how to fight covid, is gone. There's nothing left to cause a reaction. Nothing. Nada.

The amount of whole spike protein that might make it into your blood is extremely small if any at all.

originally posted by: LordAhriman
Yall went full potato, worshipped a billionaire politician, and took the wrong direction on something that the entire world should have gained unity from.

Did you just go there after saying you wished ATS would get away from that...lol

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

The stupidity is painful to witness.

The Covid shot is dangerous. I'm glad most people are fine so far but any one of the recipients could have taken a turn for the worse after they volunteered to be a guinea pig.

Is this statement oxymoronic?

"The shot is dangerous!!!" "I'm just glad the 100s of millions that got it are OK, but it could have been bad" lol

Really????????????????????

a reply to: Mouthtool

Starlink has been a failure so far... friend of mine in the Yukon was in the beta and it was completely useless 90% of the time.

originally posted by: myselfaswell

80% Do Not Get Sick From Covid, Covid has a global IFR of 0.15% which drops to near zero if you're healthy and under 25.

So the data contained in VAERS shows about 1000 people died shortly after getting one of the vaccines. The system doesn't say what they actually died of, but we are still talking 1000 out of 100 million people with a good chance most of that 1000 was not the vaccine. Now talking virus we saw well over 600,000 dead out of well under 100 million people who actually got it, and millions more hospitalized with serious conditions, and serious follow on health problems.

Spin the numbers anyway you want but these are pretty real numbers.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

Explain to me how something that no longer exists can do anything at all.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Spin the numbers anyway you want but these are pretty real numbers.

I'm not spinning any numbers, they're facts.

80% Do Not Get Sick From Covid, Covid has a global IFR of 0.15% which drops to near zero if you're healthy and under 25.

I realise that people, in defense of the their brainwashing, will quote BIG numbers regardless of their dubious origins to justify their misguided opinion.

Facts are, inject the vulnerable ........ that's it. You don't experiment on healthy people who are not going to get sick, just have a long think about that and see if you can get over your fear and brainwashing, it's important for young people that you do.

originally posted by: myselfaswell
80% Do Not Get Sick From Covid, Covid has a global IFR of 0.15% which drops to near zero if you're healthy and under 25.

Extra big fonts = extra big serious!

Now do vaccinated people vs. side effects. Use big fonts.