Woman Goes Off After Seeing A Transgender Man Exposing Himself In Front Of Little Girls At A Spa

originally posted by: argentus
a reply to: Creep Thumper

What are you afraid of?

I would think that this one would be obvious: being sexually assaulted.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Did they allow this person in or did this person enter on the presumption that female only meant transperson too and all transpeople, not just fully transitioned ones?

But the female only spa meant only physically female, and not just feeling female?

Legally it's very difficult to stop a man putting on women's clothes and saying that they are transsexual from entering any woman's only area.

Anti discrimination legislation is written with the presumption that people are honest and have honest intentions so they have little provision to protect businesses or other consumers from people making false claims or abusing the system

originally posted by: Halfswede
a reply to: AaarghZombies

It's wrong. Period. Those defending it are wrong as well. Decent people understand this in a blink.

I think that goes without saying. 99 percent of Liberal will agree with you. Pedophila is bad. Supporting sex offenders is not a Liberal thing. Liberals often have trouble with consenting adults as well because they're frequently introverted or just plain poorly socialised.

Ironically, I've encountered conservatives and libertarians on this forum who argued that an age of consent is government overreach and that the state should have no place telling you who can have sex, or who you can have sex with. And that it should be up to the individual in question to decide.

I called them out on it, and would do the same no matter what thier political inclinations.

The same people thought that speed limits were fascist.

Anyone defending this MANS actions is a virtue signaling woke dolt. You and your views have no place in decent society. Quit trying to excuse HIS actions.

a reply to: infolurker

Uhh! He didn't look like a transgendered female at all, he looks like a man. Yeah that is a problem. i wouldn't go there again and support crap like that, screw it! I would be upset too.

originally posted by: Creep Thumper
a reply to: xuserdefined

My grandfather spoke of frontier justice in the Old World. The town men would take the offender to the woods outside of town and beat the sh*t out of him. It cured the offender fast.

We need a few beatings.

PS, if you've got a d**k you belong in the men's room. Period.

Ahh yes. The good ol' days when gays were beaten, jailed, and publicly shunned.

I just watched the video and I think in his mind etc. to him, he is a woman and most likely his ID says so too; otherwise he wouldn't be able to enter that place of business.

From what I understand he did not actually show his private parts to anyone.

I don't know this person nor how he lives etc. He may be a really good human being.

a reply to: Boadicea

Yes, it might. Could be a mistake on the part of that individual in which case ''whadaya gonna do''. Or it could be that this individual wanted to prove whatever point they wanted to prove and went in the women's only section before the final steps to becoming a woman herself. Certainly not me and certainly not anyone on these boards.

So to my mind the company should reprimand this person and if this person declines the reprimand then the company should just revoke their membership or whatever, put em on a no go list. I would say that taking a penis into a womans only spa or specified womans section of a spa is rude to the other women in there. I don't care for rude people. And that has been my whole objection to this event, the rudeness of the ranting woman filming the tirade, going off on a simple desk clerk rather than taking it to the manager or owners in an adult manner.

I also so not give much creed to this notion that all of this new gendering business is going to lead to a bunch of women with penis's going about raping our children in spas and womens restrooms at the park. That just doesn't make any sense to me.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

Legally it's very difficult to stop a man putting on women's clothes and saying that they are transsexual from entering any woman's only area.

Anti discrimination legislation is written with the presumption that people are honest and have honest intentions so they have little provision to protect businesses or other consumers from people making false claims or abusing the system

What if they changed the wording...

Instead of being 'Women Only' or 'Ladies Only', can a business legally put up a sign stating:


"Absolutely NO PENISES Allowed Beyond This Point!" (No Exceptions)


Personally, I don't see how that could be a problem, but can they legally do such a thing?

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Exactly! And that's the problem. No one knows how someone "feels" because we aren't mind readers, and like it or not, there are people who will exploit this to get their rocks off in various ways for various reasons.

a reply to: CptGreenTea

The application needs to be for people who engage in offensive behavior. Like swinging their dick in the Ladies Room.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: Boadicea

Yes, it might. Could be a mistake on the part of that individual in which case ''whadaya gonna do''. Or it could be that this individual wanted to prove whatever point they wanted to prove and went in the women's only section before the final steps to becoming a woman herself. Certainly not me and certainly not anyone on these boards.

Agreed. We don't have enough information to form any conclusions... this is why I was looking for more.

Apparently, there is a unisex area in which the transgender person could have changed, so that may be why the women felt the women-only area was specifically designated female-only area. I found a review from 2018 in which a woman objected to a male in the women's changing area, so this isn't a new policy.

So to my mind the company should reprimand this person and if this person declines the reprimand then the company should just revoke their membership or whatever, put em on a no go list. I would say that taking a penis into a womans only spa or specified womans section of a spa is rude to the other women in there. I don't care for rude people. And that has been my whole objection to this event, the rudeness of the ranting woman filming the tirade, going off on a simple desk clerk rather than taking it to the manager or owners in an adult manner.

I think everyone could have handled it better, but I also understand the frustration of the women in what is supposed to be women-only, and that women have very few practical options for complaint and recourse. And while I understand that the law has placed certain demands on the company, it is also their responsibility to properly inform both their customers and their employees, and what is acceptable and not acceptable behavior by all parties.

I also so not give much creed to this notion that all of this new gendering business is going to lead to a bunch of women with penis's going about raping our children in spas and womens restrooms at the park. That just doesn't make any sense to me.

Well, I don't give much creed to the notion that women can have penises...

But to your greater point in this paradigm, the women with penises still retain the same rates of criminal sexual offenses as any other male bodied person, and statistics seem to show that more than half (about 60%) of convicted sexual offenders are transgender/crossdressers. So of course not all trans persons will be sexual predators, but a good portion will be. And the self-ID literally allows any and all male sexual predators into these spaces under the same rules, on top of the trans predators, with no means for anyone to know the difference. So it is a real and legitimate threat to women's and children's safety (even if many way to forget just plain dignity and privacy for women).

a reply to: Boadicea

Thanks for those stats, that's interesting stuff.

I must admit that a lot of this stuff is confusing to me. In a way it's like people who love flowers who then go to great lengths to know all about flowers. Types, growing them pruning them. Histories of them, all of that. Myself, flowers are there but I"m not all that interested in them.

Likewise I have no inclination what so ever to be anything other than the male I was born as. I remember when I first read about people who were born both male AND female back in college. What an eye opener that was to me. Of course I understood that sexual preference was biological but I also recognized how society promotes those preferences in young childre. Blue and Pink. Barbi and GI Joe kind of stuff.

So for me what I have to go on is what those people who feel that tug to be of the other sex say. And I say let em. Like the flowers, I don't really want to think about it much more than that.

So I can easily be wrong here but I don't know as anyone has yet been able to put together a functioning penis and stick it on a woman to make it work. So it's all about the other way around. Just cut that sucker off and sew it up. The rest of it, the breast augmentation, the hormone therapy, the whatevers is all vague. Heck, I'm an old man and currently my sagging chest is larger than my wifes.

So I will settle for a simple point that we might arrive at. Penis? Male. No Penis, female. Lop it off or stay the heck out of the women's bathrooms. And that's all I have on this topic today. Thanks for the conversation.

originally posted by: BrokenCircles

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

Legally it's very difficult to stop a man putting on women's clothes and saying that they are transsexual from entering any woman's only area.

Anti discrimination legislation is written with the presumption that people are honest and have honest intentions so they have little provision to protect businesses or other consumers from people making false claims or abusing the system

What if they changed the wording...

Instead of being 'Women Only' or 'Ladies Only', can a business legally put up a sign stating:


"Absolutely NO PENISES Allowed Beyond This Point!" (No Exceptions)


Personally, I don't see how that could be a problem, but can they legally do such a thing?

That would be illegal because you can be trans without having transitioned.

A sex change is very expensive, and very invasive. A lot of trans people simply cannot afford it or can't have it for medical reason such as a weak heart.

I seem to remember hearing that so etching like 80% of transsexuals don't fully transition. Though this figure might be out of date.

The law says that you can't discriminate directly or indirectly. Saying no penis is like a restaurant back in the day using dress codes to exclude black people, or when the ancient Japanese used to put pictures of Christian symbols on the floor because they knew that Christians wouldn't want to step on them.

a reply to: Boadicea

The swinging dick should have been in the unisex area and that is how it should be handled everywhere. If you can't figure out where your private parts put you you use the changing room designated for the confused.

a reply to: infolurker

Weird, I was assured by Progressives that this kind of thing wouldn't happen

Common courtesy and decency would be for a transgender with male genitalia to keep covered up, to *not* expose their genitals to women and children.

BUt of course, this is how it works now - if the spa denied entry or demanded that person cover up, there'd soon be activists protesting in front of the place, demanding they be shut down or ostracized for their "homophobia", threatening violence, harrassing customers, filing lawsuits, etc.

Alternatively, they just have one woman going off, who's probably been banned from the place, and it's over.

Mob rule has taken over in ways large and small.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I'm trying to wrap my head around a gym where you can see people in the changing rooms from outside.

I might've missed part of this story but i thought her and children were exposed to this guy in the locker room while they were exercising.

If its some guy walking around in the women's changing room well......lets just say some people have the towel on and some don't. Seeing how ugly a penis is---I was always fascinated by the guys who just had their penis out. Like why? It's not like its always some dude packing a footer either. My only point to this woman would be---well who did you vote for? Because one side has been pretty open about this crusade. Well heck both sides are pretty open with their feelings.

I remember a tennis mom from the 80's (was it Capraiti?????) who said she never left her daughter alone in the dressing room because of the predators. And those were biological women.

Poor woman---had no idea her party was supporting this.

originally posted by: Creep Thumper
a reply to: Boadicea

The swinging dick should have been in the unisex area and that is how it should be handled everywhere. If you can't figure out where your private parts put you you use the changing room designated for the confused.

Unless you're a sexual predator who knows exactly where your penis belongs, but you also know that the law will aid and abet you in your crimes... which is the real problem.

The owner is just as much a victim of the law as the women rightfully objecting to the policy which is mandated by the law.

It would have been far more productive and practical if the woman had listened to the position that the owner is in, and then joined forces with the owner to protest the law to those who made the law and can change the law.

And it would have been far more productive and practical if the owners/employees had stated that they don't like the damn law either, but they have no choice, and join forces with their female customers to protest the law to those who made the law and can change the law.

a reply to: atlantiswatusi

Yeah, both sides recruit. I was solicited three times that I can remember, by lesbos. We've all heard about the men recruiting.

It is a definite problem.

Personally, I don't do locker rooms and the only dick I want to see is my husband's.

originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
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Hopefully I am well within my rights to type what I've just typed and not be called some phobe of some sort.

Folks : we need your donations, to combat this new plight upon the world.
We must declare war, on Phobaphobia, because we all know that wars work.

Phobophobia is described as : ' The fear of being afraid. '
But that's not what this is about.
Oh no no no.

It might not even be a fear.
It's kinda different, eh ?

We're just tired of being accused of being afraid of things, that we're not really afraid of.

How often do you see a fellow poster put=up the defense, now even before accusations can fly ?

EX : " I'm hesitant about the vaxx-jabbies, but I'M NOT ANTI-VAX . "
"I'm not an atheist, but... "
"I'm not a flat-earther, but... "

So as it pertains to the OP : What is this really all about ?
Are Americans afraid of penises ?
Don't think that the stats pointing-out the USA as the largest producer, and consumer of pornography, would lead anyone to think that they are afraid of sexuality.

So what is it then ?
Penises are not made by God ?
Did God close her eyes, and just rushed though the penis creating process ?
Did she put them in a secret hidden location, or were they left to hang-out, on the naked bodies of the first humans ?

Are we afraid to take our children to farms, for fear that they see something horrific dangling down between the bull's legs ?

So if people aren't afraid of reproductive organs : what is all of the hoopla ?
Does everybody walk-around, and mingle naked at that spa, or was the twig-an-berries rogue ?
Did the mom's choose to parade their daughters around naked, in front of other girls, women, staffers, and such ?

Does one go to a place with rooms full of naked people : expecting it to have some kind of limitations ?
What if there are femalish adult pedophiles there ?
No big deal ?

Why all of the hullabaloo ?

Penises are essential to the survival of humans.