UK Official Covid Vaccine Report More Vaxxed Dying of Delta Than Unvaxxed

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Realtruth
a reply to: ScepticScot


so quick math:

27.192 delta cases with vax, 68 deaths, 0.25% death rate

53.822 delta cases non vaxed, 38 deaths, 0.07% death rate


so vaxed people have a 4 times higher chance to die if they get delta

Ah, but you're forgetting that most of the unvaxxed are young and healthy, while the vaxxed include the oldest and most vulnerable. So it is to be expected that they have a higher mortality rate.

So the “vaccine” isn’t effective?

The numbers suggest it is very effective.

Sorry if you are struggling to follow that.

a reply to: dragonridr

I noticed that you didn’t answer any of my questions in the other thread. Not surprised.

originally posted by: KansasGirl
a reply to: dragonridr

I noticed that you didn’t answer any of my questions in the other thread. Not surprised.

I did your not paying attention as you did with this report. You didn't understand what you were reading in the future you might want to read the reports before you tell people what it says.

a reply to: ScepticScot

That's from AP.

For future reference...

AP uses FB fact checking (Politifact)...which uses FactCheck.org...which, in turn, is funded (massively) by Johnson & Johnson Pharmaceutical through 'The Robert Woods Johnson Foundation'...and is vetted by the International Fact-Checking Network (IFCN).

IFCN was created by Poynter, a self-proclaimed journalism nonprofit organization almost completely funded by Pierre Omidyar, a major donor to Democrat organizations and candidates, who's chief acolyte (Joelle Gamble) is now Joe Biden's Senior Economic Advisor.

IFCN signs off on ALL China Virus-related fact-checking from 4 of the 5 major fact checking organizations.

A brief look at CDC funding sources should also speak volumes about who controls the "vaccination" narrative...



Nothing Covid-related should be trusted from AP fact-checking.
It is completely under Big Pharma's and the Biden administration's control.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Realtruth

so vaxed people have a 4 times higher chance to die if they get delta

Remember that Correlation does not imply Causation. It is the hardest thing to figure out and what is mostly screwed up.

You know what? This comment is really stupid.

All of a sudden, healthy young teenagers are dying from heart attacks, and getting myocarditis. The common thing amongst them all is that they were all “fully vaccinated.” It is absolutely idiotic to say that it’s hard to figure out what caused those issues.

BA had 4 pilots die in the space of a week. They were all completely healthy. Pilots are some of the most medically monitored people on the planet. All four had recently been “fully vaccinated.” It is absolutely idiotic to say it’s hard to figure out what caused their deaths.

I am so sick of you and others like you and your idiotic brainwashed comments. Why in the world are you shilling for the drug companies and corrupt government? Seriously- why??

Looking forward to your answers, because I truly don’t understand. You are either brainwashed, or stupid. To keep making comments like yours in the face of all of the evidence implies brainwashing or retardation.

You might want to reading the thread on the pilots before insulting others.

One pilot had been longterm ill and another died in an accident.

The brainwashed are those pushing idiotic conspiracy theorues they watched on bitchute or similar.

Nope. Your comments are absolutely indicative of someone either brainwashed/controlled, or intellectually impaired. That’s not an insult; not everyone has the same level of intelligence, and some are impaired through no fault of their own. Nature.

Why are you so trusting of big pharma, of government, and the media? All have been caught many times lying to and harming the population. Why in the world do you think they have suddenly turned over a new leaf and are no longer corrupted and mired in self-interest and profit?

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Realtruth
a reply to: ScepticScot


so quick math:

27.192 delta cases with vax, 68 deaths, 0.25% death rate

53.822 delta cases non vaxed, 38 deaths, 0.07% death rate


so vaxed people have a 4 times higher chance to die if they get delta

Ah, but you're forgetting that most of the unvaxxed are young and healthy, while the vaxxed include the oldest and most vulnerable. So it is to be expected that they have a higher mortality rate.

So the “vaccine” isn’t effective?

The numbers suggest it is very effective.

Sorry if you are struggling to follow that.

Considering the number of breakthrough cases that have been reported, even WITH the cycle threshold turned down (not a conspiracy theory but official information), and the number of people who have died from covid-19 even though they had all their shots, suggests that it’s not effective.

Furthermore, mask and socialism distancing guidelines are still in effect. Why do “unvaccinated” people need to wear masks, if they are with “vaccinated” individuals? Does the vaccine not protect you? Seems it does not.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: ScepticScot

That's from AP.

For future reference...

AP uses FB fact checking (Politifact)...which uses FactCheck.org...which, in turn, is funded (massively) by Johnson & Johnson Pharmaceutical through 'The Robert Woods Johnson Foundation'...and is vetted by the International Fact-Checking Network (IFCN).

IFCN was created by Poynter, a self-proclaimed journalism nonprofit organization almost completely funded by Pierre Omidyar, a major donor to Democrat organizations and candidates, whose who's chief acolyte (Joelle Gamble) is now Joe Biden's Senior Economic Advisor.

IFCN signs off on ALL China Virus-related fact-checking from 4 of the 5 major fact checking organizations.

A brief look at CDC funding sources should also speak volumes about who controls the "vaccination" narrative...

Nothing Covid-related should be trusted from AP fact-checking.
It is completely under Big Pharma's and the Biden administration's control.

I saw that a couple days ago. Thanks for the additional info. I'm going to go through your recent thread as well, feel free to add the info my OP to your thread.

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Realtruth

so vaxed people have a 4 times higher chance to die if they get delta

Remember that Correlation does not imply Causation. It is the hardest thing to figure out and what is mostly screwed up.

You know what? This comment is really stupid.

All of a sudden, healthy young teenagers are dying from heart attacks, and getting myocarditis. The common thing amongst them all is that they were all “fully vaccinated.” It is absolutely idiotic to say that it’s hard to figure out what caused those issues.

BA had 4 pilots die in the space of a week. They were all completely healthy. Pilots are some of the most medically monitored people on the planet. All four had recently been “fully vaccinated.” It is absolutely idiotic to say it’s hard to figure out what caused their deaths.

I am so sick of you and others like you and your idiotic brainwashed comments. Why in the world are you shilling for the drug companies and corrupt government? Seriously- why??

Looking forward to your answers, because I truly don’t understand. You are either brainwashed, or stupid. To keep making comments like yours in the face of all of the evidence implies brainwashing or retardation.

You might want to reading the thread on the pilots before insulting others.

One pilot had been longterm ill and another died in an accident.

The brainwashed are those pushing idiotic conspiracy theorues they watched on bitchute or similar.

Nope. Your comments are absolutely indicative of someone either brainwashed/controlled, or intellectually impaired. That’s not an insult; not everyone has the same level of intelligence, and some are impaired through no fault of their own. Nature.

Why are you so trusting of big pharma, of government, and the media? All have been caught many times lying to and harming the population. Why in the world do you think they have suddenly turned over a new leaf and are no longer corrupted and mired in self-interest and profit?

If you had either the evidence or the ability to argue your point you would.

Your ad homiens just reflect on you, no one else

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Realtruth
a reply to: ScepticScot


so quick math:

27.192 delta cases with vax, 68 deaths, 0.25% death rate

53.822 delta cases non vaxed, 38 deaths, 0.07% death rate


so vaxed people have a 4 times higher chance to die if they get delta

Ah, but you're forgetting that most of the unvaxxed are young and healthy, while the vaxxed include the oldest and most vulnerable. So it is to be expected that they have a higher mortality rate.

So the “vaccine” isn’t effective?

The numbers suggest it is very effective.

Sorry if you are struggling to follow that.

Considering the number of breakthrough cases that have been reported, even WITH the cycle threshold turned down (not a conspiracy theory but official information), and the number of people who have died from covid-19 even though they had all their shots, suggests that it’s not effective.

Furthermore, mask and socialism distancing guidelines are still in effect. Why do “unvaccinated” people need to wear masks, if they are with “vaccinated” individuals? Does the vaccine not protect you? Seems it does not.

Only if you don't understand the numbers.

A much higher % of the population has been vaccinated, therefore there should be far more serious cases amongst the vaccinated.

The fact there isn't shows it is working.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: ScepticScot

That's from AP.

For future reference...

AP uses FB fact checking (Politifact)...which uses FactCheck.org...which, in turn, is funded (massively) by Johnson & Johnson Pharmaceutical through 'The Robert Woods Johnson Foundation'...and is vetted by the International Fact-Checking Network (IFCN).

IFCN was created by Poynter, a self-proclaimed journalism nonprofit organization almost completely funded by Pierre Omidyar, a major donor to Democrat organizations and candidates, who's chief acolyte (Joelle Gamble) is now Joe Biden's Senior Economic Advisor.

IFCN signs off on ALL China Virus-related fact-checking from 4 of the 5 major fact checking organizations.

A brief look at CDC funding sources should also speak volumes about who controls the "vaccination" narrative...

Nothing Covid-related should be trusted from AP fact-checking.
It is completely under Big Pharma's and the Biden administration's control.

The source in your thread was Conservative playlist.

Are they an unbiased source?

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: KansasGirl
a reply to: dragonridr

I noticed that you didn’t answer any of my questions in the other thread. Not surprised.

I did your not paying attention as you did with this report. You didn't understand what you were reading in the future you might want to read the reports before you tell people what it says.

You absolutely did not reply to my post in the other thread where I asked you why you trust the drug companies and government and media. I asked why you are ok with the fact that in the first six months of this “vaccine,” the deaths so far have well exceeded the number of deaths from all vaccines combined, since 1990. I asked you several other questions that you also did not answer.

She is right. Why do you trust them even after mountains of evidence, emails, wide spread evidence of mass censorship all of it.

The main stream media is nothing more then pay government propaganda and has been for years and year. They have no responsibility to be truthful and are never held accountable before their often blatant lies.

Msm,pharma and big tech are all in this together to fleece you of everything and their going to do it to the sound of your applause.

a reply to: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Athetos
She is right. Why do you trust them even after mountains of evidence, emails, wide spread evidence of mass censorship all of it.

The main stream media is nothing more then pay government propaganda and has been for years and year. They have no responsibility to be truthful and are never held accountable before their often blatant lies.

Msm,pharma and big tech are all in this together to fleece you of everything and their going to do it to the sound of your applause.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Trust who?

I am basing my view on the actual numbers.

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: KansasGirl
a reply to: dragonridr

I noticed that you didn’t answer any of my questions in the other thread. Not surprised.

I did your not paying attention as you did with this report. You didn't understand what you were reading in the future you might want to read the reports before you tell people what it says.

You absolutely did not reply to my post in the other thread where I asked you why you trust the drug companies and government and media. I asked why you are ok with the fact that in the first six months of this “vaccine,” the deaths so far have well exceeded the number of deaths from all vaccines combined, since 1990. I asked you several other questions that you also did not answer.

Oh but I did you just didn't pay attention why am I not surprised? Here I will make it easy for you what I said was because I read the data involved, You have proven here you do not. here ya go

www.abovetopsecret.com...

As I said I answered your question so now it's your turn Why do you choose to believe anything an anti vax website tells you without even doing any research?

2nd question Why do you hate science and the advancements we make?

originally posted by: DarkestConspiracyMoon
I wonder what the typical vaccine shills/lovers will say about this one.

20% of the population, mostly healthy individuals who chose not to get the vax, account for 35% of the deaths. 80% of the population who got vaxxed, and includes whose who are the most at risk and likely to do account for 65% of the deaths.

Not sure how that does not appear to be the vaccine is protective.

originally posted by: dragonridr
This is funny you posted evidence the vaccine works and don't even realize it. Do you know what delta cases are? This is when someone has to be admitted to the hospital because of Covid.

No delta is the new name for the Indian varient,it was renamed because the Indian government said they know of no such thing.
Where the hell did you get that delta means being admitted to hospital with covid?
You wouldn't be trying to mislead us would you?

originally posted by: glen200376

originally posted by: dragonridr
This is funny you posted evidence the vaccine works and don't even realize it. Do you know what delta cases are? This is when someone has to be admitted to the hospital because of Covid.

No delta is the new name for the Indian varient,it was renamed because the Indian government said they know of no such thing.
Where the hell did you get that delta means being admitted to hospital with covid?
You wouldn't be trying to mislead us would you?

Read under the chart

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: glen200376

originally posted by: dragonridr
This is funny you posted evidence the vaccine works and don't even realize it. Do you know what delta cases are? This is when someone has to be admitted to the hospital because of Covid.

No delta is the new name for the Indian varient,it was renamed because the Indian government said they know of no such thing.
Where the hell did you get that delta means being admitted to hospital with covid?
You wouldn't be trying to mislead us would you?

Read under the chart

I have what are you on about?Delta is the Indian varients new name.

originally posted by: dragonridr
This is funny you posted evidence the vaccine works and don't even realize it. Do you know what delta cases are? This is when someone has to be admitted to the hospital because of Covid.

On your chart here we have 53,822 admitted who were not vaccinated. counting people that received 1 or 2 doses our total is 13,715. Here's the other part that tells you it's working look at the age groups of unvaccinated emergency room visits. In the high-risk group over 50, there were 976 cases. This is because the UK has put a major effort into vaccinating over 50. So we have 52,846 under 50 with no vacs hospitalized.

You're also misreading the deaths there were 117 read the print they excluded people that received the vaccine on hospital admission, in other words, they already had the virus when they got the shot. so 50 of the 117 had gotten the vaccine 19 of those only 1 dose. So unvaccinated was 44 people. All 50 that died with covid and received shot were over 50 in the high-risk age group. Now if they are in the emergency room and losing the fight to covid they are given shots of the vaccine in some cases your big clue is out of the 50 that got 2 shots 19 had gotten shots before hospitalization because they removed the ones that received shots on admission.

Delta is the strain... not "admitted to hospital".

originally posted by: Halfswede

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: DarkestConspiracyMoon
I wonder what the typical vaccine shills/lovers will say about this one.

That the unvaccinated are mostly young and healthy, while the vaccinated includes something like 98% of all senior citizens and diabetics. So it's no wonder that death rates are higher.

The data are broken down into >50 and less than 50 age groups. It's not saying what you are claiming.

Deaths, Delta variant:
50 - 109

Seems to be exactly as described. Most of the deaths are in the above 50 category, which will skew the number of vaccinated being dead since that group has a high number of vaccinated individuals.

Delta variant, cases:
Total: 92,029
Fully vaccinated: 7,235
Unvaccinated: 53,822

The figures clearly show the vaccine is exceptionally protective, just not as protective against this variant.