UK Official Covid Vaccine Report More Vaxxed Dying of Delta Than Unvaxxed

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: Salander

originally posted by: DarkestConspiracyMoon
I wonder what the typical vaccine shills/lovers will say about this one.

They will pretend it does not exist.

But the figures don't support the premise of the OP, they show the vaccine IS effective, or did you not read the whole thread?

There is so much data accruing from recipients of the shots during the last 6 months regarding adverse events that it is scary. Yes, most people do fine (we won't know the long term effects for months), but more people have suffered adverse events and deaths from these shots that from all other shots during the entire lifetime (30 years or more) of the VAERS system.

They shut down the Swine Flu vaccine program over about 25 deaths, and we are now in the many thousands of deaths. Why is this one different?

Because it was planned, that's why.

originally posted by: Salander

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: Salander

originally posted by: DarkestConspiracyMoon
I wonder what the typical vaccine shills/lovers will say about this one.

They will pretend it does not exist.

But the figures don't support the premise of the OP, they show the vaccine IS effective, or did you not read the whole thread?

There is so much data accruing from recipients of the shots during the last 6 months regarding adverse events that it is scary. Yes, most people do fine (we won't know the long term effects for months), but more people have suffered adverse events and deaths from these shots that from all other shots during the entire lifetime (30 years or more) of the VAERS system.

They shut down the Swine Flu vaccine program over about 25 deaths, and we are now in the many thousands of deaths. Why is this one different?

Because it was planned, that's why.

One possible reason might be because there hasn't actually been many thousands of deaths.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Regarding the efficacy of the injections suggested by the Israel data, are you suggesting the Emperor is Wearing No Clothes?

a reply to: ScepticScot

Only in your world SS.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: ScepticScot

Only in your world SS.

My world being reality.

Where are the real stats to show the actual death toll, including disabled, critical and injured? I didnt know that VAERS was lying to us.

a reply to: ScepticScot

originally posted by: KEKWchamp
Where are the real stats to show the actual death toll, including disabled, critical and injured? I didnt know that VAERS was lying to us.

a reply to: ScepticScot

From the CDC website.

VAERS accepts and analyzes reports of possible health problems—also called “adverse events”—after vaccination. As an early warning system, VAERS cannot prove that a vaccine caused a problem. Specifically, a report to VAERS does not mean that a vaccine caused an adverse event. But VAERS can give CDC and FDA important information. If it looks as though a vaccine might be causing a problem, FDA and CDC will investigate further and take action if needed.

Anyone can submit a report to VAERS — healthcare professionals, vaccine manufacturers, and the general public. VAERS welcomes all reports, regardless of seriousness, and regardless of how likely the vaccine may have been to have caused the adverse event.
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originally posted by: Salander

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: Salander

originally posted by: DarkestConspiracyMoon
I wonder what the typical vaccine shills/lovers will say about this one.

They will pretend it does not exist.

But the figures don't support the premise of the OP, they show the vaccine IS effective, or did you not read the whole thread?

There is so much data accruing from recipients of the shots during the last 6 months regarding adverse events that it is scary. Yes, most people do fine (we won't know the long term effects for months), but more people have suffered adverse events and deaths from these shots that from all other shots during the entire lifetime (30 years or more) of the VAERS system.

They shut down the Swine Flu vaccine program over about 25 deaths, and we are now in the many thousands of deaths. Why is this one different?

Because it was planned, that's why.

Except that none of this is true.

This is the largest single vaccine program in human history, so more people are having reactions because more people are having the shot than any other vaccine in history.

On top of that the most vulnerable people are getting the shot first, so what look like reactions to the vaccine can often be completely unrelated. Your looking at suspected reactions, not proven ones.

When you look at things as a percentage the percentage of people who are having a reaction is more or less identical to the percentage for any other vaccine. More importantly the harm done is less than would be done by covid.

It's like pushing somebody out of the way of a speeding truck. Yes there is a chance that they might land on their backside, but it's still better than being hit by the truck.

originally posted by: Salander

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: Salander

originally posted by: DarkestConspiracyMoon
I wonder what the typical vaccine shills/lovers will say about this one.

They will pretend it does not exist.

But the figures don't support the premise of the OP, they show the vaccine IS effective, or did you not read the whole thread?

There is so much data accruing from recipients of the shots during the last 6 months regarding adverse events that it is scary. Yes, most people do fine (we won't know the long term effects for months), but more people have suffered adverse events and deaths from these shots that from all other shots during the entire lifetime (30 years or more) of the VAERS system.

They shut down the Swine Flu vaccine program over about 25 deaths, and we are now in the many thousands of deaths. Why is this one different?

Because it was planned, that's why.

Thousands of deaths from the vaccine? You must have a link for that?

originally posted by: Salander

more people have suffered adverse events and deaths from these shots that from all other shots during the entire lifetime (30 years or more) of the VAERS system.

You'll have to explain that one.

A report to VAERS does not mean a vaccine caused a problem.

The facts are important and you're ignoring them.

Deny ignorance, don't embrace and spread it!

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: djz3ro

Sure, then again the vast majority of people who caught covid were absolutely fine as well. Myself included. If I didn’t have a test I would never have known I had this deadly disease. I think I maybe had to clear my throat once. I have natural antibodies, I don’t need your lab created chemical soup 👍

That's fair enough.

If this vaccine makes me ill, I'll be here talking about it.

If it turns out you were wrong, will you admit it?.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

Top Experts Say COVID-19 ‘Delta Variant’ Symptoms Are Identical To ‘Hay Fever’, Common Cold

Experts in the United Kingdom have compared the symptoms of the COVID-19 “Delta Variant” to that of hay fever and the common cold, according to various reports.

The new strain has reportedly been the cause of 99% of all new COVID-19 cases in the UK. “The main symptoms of COVID-19 appear to have changed — with headaches and sore throats now more common than fevers and coughs, according to a warning by UK experts,” noted the New York Post.

nationalfile.com...

...or you could get an experimental "vaccine" which may kill you.

You trust an Insurance Broker (National Life) over Doctors and Medical Professionals?

I see your problem now. I think you may have some issues? You better go see your Plasterer about your Mental Health? Don't forget to call the Vetinarian if you have a leaky sink...

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: djz3ro

Death comes to us all, I’d rather die free with covid over dying in hiding without it.

We've both done what we think is right to protect those closest to us, it will be interesting to see who is right

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: IAMTAT

Except you are about 10 times more likely to die from the delta variant if you are not fully vaccinated and >50.

Probably not.

Of course you don't have a link for that? None of you ever do!

originally posted by: bloodymarvelous

originally posted by: djz3ro
a reply to: Grenade

i for one am fairly sure that pretty soon we will see emperical proof that, not only is the Vaccine effective but it is also doing what it was designed to do.

If somebody would like to show some proof that the Vaccine is more deadly than Covid-19 that would be grand. So far all i've seen are the side effects that any vaccine can cause.

I should take the vaxx unless it is more deadly? So if they are equally deadly, then you would take the Vax??

What is it with you lot? Always trying to put words in my mouth? Did I say that? If they were both as deadly I'd take my chances without but that isn't the case. There's a lot of misinformation about the vaccine and most people against it have fallen for it. It isn't experimental, it wasn't rushed out. People need to educate themselves more.

You assume everyone who gets the vaccine is a stooge, a pawn. We can't be free thinkers, not possible. Get it up ye and get a clue while you're at it!

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: bloodymarvelous

Where do you get the idea it's break even from?

I don't get why people fall for this information. Gullible to the core...

www.bbc.co.uk...

Some people, including those pushing an anti-vaccine agenda online, have been claiming a large proportion of those dying with the Delta variant of coronavirus had been vaccinated.

This site and others use real figures in a misleading way, to arrive at a completely false conclusion - that the vaccine may not be working or even doing more harm than good.

I'm sure there's many that think this is just the mainstream media pedalling the lie. Thought I would drop in the reference point regardless just in case it opens any eyes!

a reply to: djz3ro

Wrong about what?

That it's my choice to take the vaccine?

I think that's self evident and not open for debate.

I'm not arguing the virus isn't real etc or that vaccines are killing people, you're confusing me with someone else.

My argument is that it's my body, my choice and none of the governments flucking business what i do with it. Nor should i be treated any differently for refusing their vaccine.

a reply to: 0010110011101

I already posted the numbers and proved the vaccine is extremely protective.

15,472 Dead 1.5 Million Injured (50% Serious) Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 Shots

The European database of suspected drug reaction reports is EudraVigilance, which also tracks reports of injuries and deaths following the experimental COVID-19 “vaccines.”

A subscriber from Europe recently emailed us and reminded us that this database maintained at EudraVigilance is only for countries in Europe who are part of the European Union (EU), which comprises 27 countries.

The total number of countries in Europe is much higher, almost twice as many, numbering around 50, although there are some differences of opinion as to which countries are technically part of Europe.

So as high as these numbers are, they do NOT reflect all of Europe. The actual number in Europe who are reported dead or injured due to COVID-19 shots would be much higher than what we are reporting here.

The EudraVigilance database reports that through June 19, 2021 there are 15,472 deaths and 1,509,266 injuries reported following injections of four experimental COVID-19 shots:
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