Britney Spears. MKUltra Victim? No Constitutional Rights?

My heart goes out to Britney; I think they should let her handle her own life; learn from mistakes; enjoy life; and be able to do what she wants when she wants. She is a good soul who deserves her freedom.

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: IAMTAT

Rose McGowan made a last minute appearance on Tucker...says Britney Spears has dementia.
I wasn't aware of that.

39 yo and she has dementia? If that's a fact then this is tragic.
Dementia can be the result of psychological trauma. And that
raises an eye brow for me.

This. Lots of MKU info on her out there if one cares to look. One of the weirdest videos I've seen of her checking out mentally is with Barbara Walters.

Am I the only one here remember her going apesh## crazy a few years ago??? That in itself showed she was not of sound mind, hence the order. Now it's up to her to prove she is compis mentis to take back control of her life. Not just wind her fan base up to fight for her.

originally posted by: crayzeed
Am I the only one here remember her going apesh## crazy a few years ago??? That in itself showed she was not of sound mind, hence the order. Now it's up to her to prove she is compis mentis to take back control of her life. Not just wind her fan base up to fight for her.

13 years ago. So what? She had a bad day and threw a fit. Thousands of people have mental issues. Even here on ATS. Yet, they are not under court order and still have complete freedom of their life. She is an adult living in The United States of America and has Constitutional Rights. She has committed no crime. Yet she has ZERO control of her life as an adult. No control of her money, her career, her body, her movement, her medical care. Nothing. Again, she has committed no crime against another human. It was her father and her music manager that decided things for her.

What if someone found YOU mentally insane and felt you needed to be under court ordered confinement?

Do you not see the problem here???? A COURT decided whether an innocent person can be free in their own life?
Mentally ill homeless people litter the streets all over the US and they are not under court ordered imprisonment. Pedophiles free amongst us. People commit horrible crimes and allowed to live their lives how they want. Sociopaths, schizophrenics, etc walk the streets FREE, running companies, elected to office, living their lives FREE. Yet Britney Spears cannot be free????

Her full statement can be found here, after the pictures. It goes into detail the abuse she has endured. www.dailymail.co.uk...

originally posted by: crayzeed
Am I the only one here remember her going apesh## crazy a few years ago??? That in itself showed she was not of sound mind, hence the order. Now it's up to her to prove she is compis mentis to take back control of her life. Not just wind her fan base up to fight for her.

I would also add, if you watched the documentary that recently came out, you would see why she had that break. It shows what led up to that. Others have controlled her from very young...everyone has a breaking point. I would too if people had done to me what they did to her.

How many people are in on the take? It's obvious that she is being exploited and the judge, management team, and father should all be under investigation.

a reply to: CptGreenTea

once diagnosed with mental issues, especially one requiring someone to have guardianship over you, it's almost impossible to get it reversed.

For what it’s worth, I would say that I don’t know Ms. Spears, but at what I think was the height of her fame, I was with her and her family for the better part of a day. I grew up immersed in the entertainment industry and a friend and I spent some social time with them.

I never got the impression that her manager at that time was manipulating her. On the contrary, she bossed him around like a spoiled brat when it came to some room service food that wasn’t prepared exactly as she had asked him to order it. He stayed in the background for the most part. I only saw them interact when that scene played out in her hotel room. I think her mother spoke to him the most.

Ms. Spears’s mother was quite a character and a very vibrant person. I will leave it at that. No negative vibes from her. If her father was around, we never heard him mentioned and her mother certainly didn’t act like she was in a committed relationship.

Her family, including what I recall was an aunt and nieces and nephews, were clearly there to ride the proverbial money train for all it was worth. That was extremely obvious and sickening. I wouldn’t be surprised if they milked her for all she was worth and manipulated situations that may benefit them.

originally posted by: ydobon
a reply to: shaemac

I agree what is happening to her is horrible, there have been plenty of people that have done worse stuff than her and they have full control over their life

Thing is, it's not the state that's doing this to her, it's her father. The state makes it possible but this is all on him.

It's not an experiment, it's no mind control. It's a mentally ill woman who made some terrible life choices, and a father who wants access to her money.

I'm in two minds about this, early on she needed committing. Now, not so much.

And there are a lot of parents out there with out of control junkie kids who badly need something like this but who can't afford the lawyers to do it.

originally posted by: Madviking
I think I agree with you. Unless she is a danger to herself or others. Has that been determined? And is there evidence if it not just for a temporary hold which happens more frequently but instead for years as in her case?

originally posted by: shaemac

originally posted by: Brotherman
Expecting to see the Chris Crocker leave Britney alone video any moment now….

Yeah, I get that....but this goes beyond that. The courts refusing an American citizen to have control of their own life when no crime has been committed. Does she have no rights? Sexual offenders are out free living their lives and this adult woman is being held hostage for the most part. Forced to take an intrusive birth control? A judge saying whether she can be free? How is this possible in America?

If you're not able to make decisions at an adult level then there are clear grounds for some adult rights to be taken away.

Without help she could easily have ended up dead like so so so many talented but unstable singers. Amy Winehouse, for example. Taking away her rights could have saved her life. Even Michael Jackson or Kurt cobain

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: ydobon
a reply to: shaemac

I agree what is happening to her is horrible, there have been plenty of people that have done worse stuff than her and they have full control over their life

Thing is, it's not the state that's doing this to her, it's her father. The state makes it possible but this is all on him.

It's not an experiment, it's no mind control. It's a mentally ill woman who made some terrible life choices, and a father who wants access to her money.

and just how do you know that the father did this to her? or that it's all about access to her money?

i have never seen anything (admittedly i've never looked for it), suggesting either of those things. in fact it could even be court initiated as part of something like a plea deal for her "terrible life choices". or it could even have been initiated by mental health professionals. my cousin for example had it done by healthcare professionals, initiated and or supported by their school. in fact the only choice the parent had, was to either do it, or let some stranger be in charge of them. and of course if the person put in charge fails in their duties, a court can easily appoint someone else to do so. and the only thing the person put in charge might be able to do is suggest that it end. but other than that they can't do anything, that is all in the power of the court and mental health professionals. and like i mentioned earlier, once done, it is almost impossible to stop. the truth is she will almost certainly have to deal with it for the rest of her life. when he father dies, or becomes incapable of doing it, the court will just place someone else in charge of her, quite likely a complete stranger as has just happened to another relative.

instead of putting blame on the father, the blame really lies on her and those terrible life choices you mention. it was that that caused the mental health professionals to bring it to the courts to begin with. it's not something the father could have done without mental health professionals in agreement, if they were not the ones that initiated it in the first place. this type of thing is not done lightly. and even as built in "safety valves". those being the fact that mental health professionals must make the choice, with the courts needing to be in agreement that it is the right thing. and she most certainly is not helping her case at all by publicly whining about it, which can be used to show that she should not be released from it.

And there are a lot of parents out there with out of control junkie kids who badly need something like this but who can't afford the lawyers to do it.

it's not the lawyers that is the issue. it's the lack of needed mental healthcare. along with the same liberal ideals that shut down the mental institutions in the first place leaving those who need it, out on the streets. you just can't go to court and ask for it to be done. you need the recommendation of mental health professionals to do so.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Your view holds no value as your only line of thinking seems to be that no one but people the media don't hone in on should be able to live and decide for themselves.

At first I thought you to just be a shill for the garbage "vaccines" who'll argue semantics for 30 posts trying desperately to not be wrong, but the fact that you think someone's human rights can and actually should be taken away if there is something mentally "off" after years upon years of mental and emotional torture is absolutely sickening and deranged. Which is it telling you it's raining? CNN or FOX? I'll bet CNN since "YAY EXPERIMENTAL BIOWEAPON!" and now "SCREW HUMAN RIGHTS BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT KNOWS WHAT'S BEST FOR EVERYONE!" Maybe go check your leg. It's 100% piss.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Madviking
I think I agree with you. Unless she is a danger to herself or others. Has that been determined? And is there evidence if it not just for a temporary hold which happens more frequently but instead for years as in her case?

originally posted by: shaemac

originally posted by: Brotherman
Expecting to see the Chris Crocker leave Britney alone video any moment now….

Yeah, I get that....but this goes beyond that. The courts refusing an American citizen to have control of their own life when no crime has been committed. Does she have no rights? Sexual offenders are out free living their lives and this adult woman is being held hostage for the most part. Forced to take an intrusive birth control? A judge saying whether she can be free? How is this possible in America?

If you're not able to make decisions at an adult level then there are clear grounds for some adult rights to be taken away.

Without help she could easily have ended up dead like so so so many talented but unstable singers. Amy Winehouse, for example. Taking away her rights could have saved her life. Even Michael Jackson or Kurt cobain

That is true, but as I said, what is the evidence for it still being necessary 13 years later? That evidence may be there, to be sure.

In the case of Kurt Cobain and Amy Winehouse, they were both in the depths of active addiction.

Is she being so controlled, that she can't find a big Hollywood attorney, or a vicious shark?
Seems like something is missing with her story, although I do feel for her. I can't imagine someone having that much control over my life.

a reply to: generik
generik, that is what I was trying to get over. I had a close friend that voluntarily put himself into a mental hospital because the medical professional told him that was the way to go.
Bad, bad move. Once in to get out you have to satisfy the mental hospitals "specialists" that you are OK to be "released". And that can be years or never.

If Ms Spears wants what she wants, she would be better employing a psychiatrist, or a number of them, to prove she is of sound mind to get the situation overturned.

There are two sides to the story, we’ve really only heard Brittneys. It’s hard to know if she’s really as victimized as she claims without more information. As she described, that sucks.

a reply to: shaemac

a reply to: igloo

I can't help wonder why they need to control her so much

When it comes to some of this weird head scratching that goes on when trying to work out how this world works, follow the money. This can be a dangerous job for those that do it well. Will find a lot of stuck people more concerned about there next pay check than there responsibilities along the way. A lot of unions did do a good job when they first started and trying to improve worker rights. As for what a lot of these organizations have become today?

Perhaps a course of Ivermectin is in order to get rid of these parasites?

If you can, watch the film I Care A Lot, Link.

''A crooked legal guardian who drains the savings of her elderly wards meets her match when a woman she tries to swindle turns out to be more than she first appears.''

Obviously this is a fictional film, but it does show the power that someone can have over another human being. They basically own that person.

Could she not secretly record what she says is going wrong in her life and show the judge the evidence?


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a reply to: shaemac

I don't think she's under MK Ultra control, just the victim of a criminally overbearing Father, if er account is true.

originally posted by: djz3ro
a reply to: shaemac

I don't think she's under MK Ultra control, just the victim of a criminally overbearing Father, if er account is true.

If you watched the documentary, maybe you would think differently? Or maybe you would not.