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Four Brit men develop deadly Guillain-Barré syndrome days after having AstraZeneca's Covid jab

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posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 11:06 AM
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Just posting more news on side effects of the astra zeneca vaccine, so don't shoot the messenger!

This is another side effect by taking this particular vaccine amongst all the other side effects which have been in the media (although i'd say we aren't being told about all the people who have had bad side effects).



Four British men have developed a potentially life-threatening condition just days after having AstraZeneca's Covid vaccine. The recipients developed Guillain-Barré syndrome, which can cause paralysis and leave patients in crippling pain. All four cases were spotted in the Nottingham area, where around 700,000 people have had the British firm's coronavirus jab. British health chiefs have yet to offer a public breakdown of how many cases of the syndrome have been spotted in vaccine recipients across the entire country. But a similar link has been spotted in both Australia and India, where AstraZeneca's vaccine is also being dished out. It is also a known rare side effect of flu and HPV jabs.


Six cases of the syndrome were also identified in Australia and seven in India.



The complication — normally triggered by an infection — usually occurs in around one in 100,000 people in the UK and US. What is Guillain-Barré syndrome? Guillain–Barré syndrome is a rare disorder in which the immune system goes into overdrive and the body attack its own nerves. Common symptoms of the rare condition include weakness and tingling in the limbs. As patients' conditions worsen, this can lead to parts of the body — or in some cases the whole body — being paralysed. Doctors say it is often triggered by a viral or bacterial illness, such as Campylobacter jejuni. There is no cure. Treatment focuses on restoring the nervous system. It can be fatal if it involves the respiratory muscles. But doctors in India who also uncovered the link say it was occurring up to 10 times more than expected. One of the articles published in the journal broke down the cases spotted in Nottingham, which all occurred within ten days of each other. Symptoms began 11 to 22 days after the first jab and all of the four men were aged between 20 and 57. One had no relevant medical history. The three others others had ulcerative colitis, asthma and high blood pressure. None had been infected with Covid. They were treated with antibodies and steroid



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

When cure is worse than the disease ...



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 11:23 AM
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Those who forget the past are condemned to relive it...Anyone remember the Swine Flu from 1976?




After the program began, the vaccine was associated with an increase in reports of Guillain-Barré Syndrome, which can cause paralysis, respiratory arrest, and death. The immunization program was ended after approximately 25% of the population of the United States had been administered the vaccine. Richard Krause, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases from 1975 to 1984, writes that the government response to the swine flu outbreak was considered to be too fast.


Where are We at on Percentages of vaccinated now?



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 11:24 AM
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a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

This is a possible side effect of any virus or vaccine. 4 people out of how many who have gotten the vax?



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

people are constantly being vaccinated against something. and unfortunately there are always cases where things are getting bad. there are numbers and statistics on vaccination deaths and side effects. how many more of these threads should there be on ats? should we then also dedicate a thread here to every other dead person who died because of another vaccination or had some bad side effects? or is it basically not about the covid-vaccination deaths or side effects at all?

i know a lot of vaccinated people. i myself had my 1st shot. some had two exhausting days but nobody died. but i know stories of young people who had covid and who now have problems climbing stairs because they are immediately out of breath.



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

which is perfect, as long as you aren't one of the 4. I know your position here, and you are correct, but there is a large factor in all this that's being ignored.

Those who have had the virus, may have a natural immunity, their immunity may outlast and be better than the vaccine. Those individuals should not be worried about taking the vaccine, and those who do wish to take it, should be aware of any and all side effects of the vaccine, much like every other drug that exists in the world.



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 11:31 AM
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originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

people are constantly being vaccinated against something. and unfortunately there are always cases where things are getting bad. there are numbers and statistics on vaccination deaths and side effects. how many more of these threads should there be on ats? should we then also dedicate a thread here to every other dead person who died because of another vaccination or had some bad side effects? or is it basically not about the covid-vaccination deaths or side effects at all?

i know a lot of vaccinated people. i myself had my 1st shot. some had two exhausting days but nobody died. but i know stories of young people who had covid and who now have problems climbing stairs because they are immediately out of breath.


should we ignore that data due to it's "anti-narrative" point of view?



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: network dude

None of the 4 had covid. The average after a viral infection is 1 in 100,000. That would mean the vaccine is certainly not riskier as far as GB goes than the average viral infection. You are tossing the dice either way, this is not something where the vaccine has risk and no vaccine has no risk. It sucks when something like this happens, but risk is REDUCED by the vaccine.



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: network dude

None of the 4 had covid. The average after a viral infection is 1 in 100,000. That would mean the vaccine is certainly not riskier as far as GB goes than the average viral infection. You are tossing the dice either way, this is not something where the vaccine has risk and no vaccine has no risk. It sucks when something like this happens, but risk is REDUCED by the vaccine.


I'm not sure you are doing the math correctly.

If you do nothing, you risk getting covid, and if you do, you have a small chance of dying from it. (if you take the jab, you can still get covid, though it might not be as severe)

however, if you take the jab, you have a small chance of dying from the jab, and so far, the side effects either aren't known, or aren't advertised. Have you seen a list yet?

And if you had covid and got over it, you likely are more protected than if you get the vaccine, and if you don't take the shot, you can't be killed by it. And as we heard, this virus was horrible and most would get it, since it was so widespread that we all needed to pretend to be ER doc's in our dress up routine.

I see it as more risky to take the shot unless you are in the "likely going to die from covid" group. But I don't do math well either.


edit on 22-6-2021 by network dude because: added thought



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 12:50 PM
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The math is all skewed anyway. As the various vaccs have 'jumped' normal, stringent, testing/trial stages and are being offered as an 'emergency' measure, efficacy and safety data is incomplete and to fill this knowledge gap, there's a % in each population receiving placebo.

Factual information about what % placebo is being injected in each population is not readily available.

To keep it simple, lets surmise that population A is receiving 50% vaccs and 50% placebo; this means that pro-rata/per capita % data about ill effects would be double the amount compared to a population (B) receiving 100% vaccine.



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 12:54 PM
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I'd like to see some links for that info. Thanks.



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 01:07 PM
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originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
Just posting more news on side effects of the astra zeneca vaccine, so don't shoot the messenger!

This is another side effect by taking this particular vaccine amongst all the other side effects which have been in the media (although i'd say we aren't being told about all the people who have had bad side effects).



Four British men have developed a potentially life-threatening condition just days after having AstraZeneca's Covid vaccine. The recipients developed Guillain-Barré syndrome, which can cause paralysis and leave patients in crippling pain. All four cases were spotted in the Nottingham area, where around 700,000 people have had the British firm's coronavirus jab. British health chiefs have yet to offer a public breakdown of how many cases of the syndrome have been spotted in vaccine recipients across the entire country. But a similar link has been spotted in both Australia and India, where AstraZeneca's vaccine is also being dished out. It is also a known rare side effect of flu and HPV jabs.


Six cases of the syndrome were also identified in Australia and seven in India.



The complication — normally triggered by an infection — usually occurs in around one in 100,000 people in the UK and US. What is Guillain-Barré syndrome? Guillain–Barré syndrome is a rare disorder in which the immune system goes into overdrive and the body attack its own nerves. Common symptoms of the rare condition include weakness and tingling in the limbs. As patients' conditions worsen, this can lead to parts of the body — or in some cases the whole body — being paralysed. Doctors say it is often triggered by a viral or bacterial illness, such as Campylobacter jejuni. There is no cure. Treatment focuses on restoring the nervous system. It can be fatal if it involves the respiratory muscles. But doctors in India who also uncovered the link say it was occurring up to 10 times more than expected. One of the articles published in the journal broke down the cases spotted in Nottingham, which all occurred within ten days of each other. Symptoms began 11 to 22 days after the first jab and all of the four men were aged between 20 and 57. One had no relevant medical history. The three others others had ulcerative colitis, asthma and high blood pressure. None had been infected with Covid. They were treated with antibodies and steroid


It’s not a side effect of this particular vaccine. Vaccines in general can precipitate cases of GBS. For example, swine flu vaccine in 1976:

www.cdc.gov...

GBS is basically an autoimmune disease. If you have the predisposition for autoimmune problems, a vaccination can trigger it. So can getting the disease that the vaccine is intended to prevent.



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: network dude

None of the 4 had covid. The average after a viral infection is 1 in 100,000. That would mean the vaccine is certainly not riskier as far as GB goes than the average viral infection. You are tossing the dice either way, this is not something where the vaccine has risk and no vaccine has no risk. It sucks when something like this happens, but risk is REDUCED by the vaccine.


I'm not sure you are doing the math correctly.

If you do nothing, you risk getting covid, and if you do, you have a small chance of dying from it. (if you take the jab, you can still get covid, though it might not be as severe)

however, if you take the jab, you have a small chance of dying from the jab, and so far, the side effects either aren't known, or aren't advertised. Have you seen a list yet?

And if you had covid and got over it, you likely are more protected than if you get the vaccine, and if you don't take the shot, you can't be killed by it. And as we heard, this virus was horrible and most would get it, since it was so widespread that we all needed to pretend to be ER doc's in our dress up routine.

I see it as more risky to take the shot unless you are in the "likely going to die from covid" group. But I don't do math well either.



1. Here’s where you can access the VAERS database, if you really want to:

www.cdc.gov...

It’s a fairly complicated procedure because it’s a large database.

2. It doesn’t seem to be true that getting the COVID19 infection confers better immunity than getting one of the mRNA vaccines:

www.jhsph.edu...



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 01:18 PM
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Is this happening more often than it did with other vaccines?
edit on 22 6 2021 by tamusan because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

If you look it up I'm sure you'll find this is a potential side effect of any vaccine.


It's stuff like this that muddies the waters and makes finding the truth more difficult.

Had both AZ shots, last one over a month ago and no adverse effects to report. I know a LOT of people around the world who have been vaccinated and none of them regret it thus far.



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 01:53 PM
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originally posted by: tamusan
Is this happening more often than it did with other vaccines?


Seems to be more side effects happening with these vaccines but maybe that's because we are dealing with this virus right now. I don't recall reading about other vaccines and their side effects and whether people have died throughout a year.. for instance, we dont hear about people dying or having side effects from the normal influenza jab!



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
Those individuals should not be worried about taking the vaccine, and those who do wish to take it, should be aware of any and all side effects of the vaccine, much like every other drug that exists in the world.

And let's also not forget the federal law, here in the US at least, that says that those administering a vaccine or medical treatment under an EUA must tell the recipient that the vaccine is voluntary only. I'd be willing to bet that most administers of the vaccine have not been making that known at the time of injection...but I haven't gotten the thing, so I can't confirm that.



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: teapot
a reply to: network dude
The math is all skewed anyway. As the various vaccs have 'jumped' normal, stringent, testing/trial stages and are being offered as an 'emergency' measure, efficacy and safety data is incomplete and to fill this knowledge gap, there's a % in each population receiving placebo.

Factual information about what % placebo is being injected in each population is not readily available.

To keep it simple, lets surmise that population A is receiving 50% vaccs and 50% placebo; this means that pro-rata/per capita % data about ill effects would be double the amount compared to a population (B) receiving 100% vaccine.



Perhaps there is no factual information about this placebo of yours is because... you just made it up?



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
I'd like to see some links for that info. Thanks.


Forgot the link, sorry.

www.dailymail.co.uk...



posted on Jun, 22 2021 @ 02:00 PM
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a reply to: oloufo

Isn't the goal of ATS to deny ignorance?

The OP is about a side effect that, although rare, should be made known to everyone since everyone is being pushed to get this injection. There's nothing more anti-ignorance than knowledge.


how many more of these threads should there be on ats?

As many as it takes so that people can be educated on the emergency-use-authorized vaccination that still hasn't undergone complete testing and is increasingly having negative side effects and new revelations about how the vaccine reacts in the body be made known through peer-reviewed studies.

Also, nice anecdotal stories, but that doesn't mean much in the big picture. If you want stories of people who have died within days of getting the vaccine, just do an internet search. If you want to see information on how many young people do not have lasting side effects, just do an internet search. There's a bigger picture out there than just who you know.
edit on 22-6-2021 by SlapMonkey because: (no reason given)



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