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Four British men have developed a potentially life-threatening condition just days after having AstraZeneca's Covid vaccine. The recipients developed Guillain-Barré syndrome, which can cause paralysis and leave patients in crippling pain. All four cases were spotted in the Nottingham area, where around 700,000 people have had the British firm's coronavirus jab. British health chiefs have yet to offer a public breakdown of how many cases of the syndrome have been spotted in vaccine recipients across the entire country. But a similar link has been spotted in both Australia and India, where AstraZeneca's vaccine is also being dished out. It is also a known rare side effect of flu and HPV jabs.
The complication — normally triggered by an infection — usually occurs in around one in 100,000 people in the UK and US. What is Guillain-Barré syndrome? Guillain–Barré syndrome is a rare disorder in which the immune system goes into overdrive and the body attack its own nerves. Common symptoms of the rare condition include weakness and tingling in the limbs. As patients' conditions worsen, this can lead to parts of the body — or in some cases the whole body — being paralysed. Doctors say it is often triggered by a viral or bacterial illness, such as Campylobacter jejuni. There is no cure. Treatment focuses on restoring the nervous system. It can be fatal if it involves the respiratory muscles. But doctors in India who also uncovered the link say it was occurring up to 10 times more than expected. One of the articles published in the journal broke down the cases spotted in Nottingham, which all occurred within ten days of each other. Symptoms began 11 to 22 days after the first jab and all of the four men were aged between 20 and 57. One had no relevant medical history. The three others others had ulcerative colitis, asthma and high blood pressure. None had been infected with Covid. They were treated with antibodies and steroid
After the program began, the vaccine was associated with an increase in reports of Guillain-Barré Syndrome, which can cause paralysis, respiratory arrest, and death. The immunization program was ended after approximately 25% of the population of the United States had been administered the vaccine. Richard Krause, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases from 1975 to 1984, writes that the government response to the swine flu outbreak was considered to be too fast.
originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: CrazeeWorld777
people are constantly being vaccinated against something. and unfortunately there are always cases where things are getting bad. there are numbers and statistics on vaccination deaths and side effects. how many more of these threads should there be on ats? should we then also dedicate a thread here to every other dead person who died because of another vaccination or had some bad side effects? or is it basically not about the covid-vaccination deaths or side effects at all?
i know a lot of vaccinated people. i myself had my 1st shot. some had two exhausting days but nobody died. but i know stories of young people who had covid and who now have problems climbing stairs because they are immediately out of breath.
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: network dude
None of the 4 had covid. The average after a viral infection is 1 in 100,000. That would mean the vaccine is certainly not riskier as far as GB goes than the average viral infection. You are tossing the dice either way, this is not something where the vaccine has risk and no vaccine has no risk. It sucks when something like this happens, but risk is REDUCED by the vaccine.
originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
Just posting more news on side effects of the astra zeneca vaccine, so don't shoot the messenger!
This is another side effect by taking this particular vaccine amongst all the other side effects which have been in the media (although i'd say we aren't being told about all the people who have had bad side effects).
Four British men have developed a potentially life-threatening condition just days after having AstraZeneca's Covid vaccine. The recipients developed Guillain-Barré syndrome, which can cause paralysis and leave patients in crippling pain. All four cases were spotted in the Nottingham area, where around 700,000 people have had the British firm's coronavirus jab. British health chiefs have yet to offer a public breakdown of how many cases of the syndrome have been spotted in vaccine recipients across the entire country. But a similar link has been spotted in both Australia and India, where AstraZeneca's vaccine is also being dished out. It is also a known rare side effect of flu and HPV jabs.
Six cases of the syndrome were also identified in Australia and seven in India.
The complication — normally triggered by an infection — usually occurs in around one in 100,000 people in the UK and US. What is Guillain-Barré syndrome? Guillain–Barré syndrome is a rare disorder in which the immune system goes into overdrive and the body attack its own nerves. Common symptoms of the rare condition include weakness and tingling in the limbs. As patients' conditions worsen, this can lead to parts of the body — or in some cases the whole body — being paralysed. Doctors say it is often triggered by a viral or bacterial illness, such as Campylobacter jejuni. There is no cure. Treatment focuses on restoring the nervous system. It can be fatal if it involves the respiratory muscles. But doctors in India who also uncovered the link say it was occurring up to 10 times more than expected. One of the articles published in the journal broke down the cases spotted in Nottingham, which all occurred within ten days of each other. Symptoms began 11 to 22 days after the first jab and all of the four men were aged between 20 and 57. One had no relevant medical history. The three others others had ulcerative colitis, asthma and high blood pressure. None had been infected with Covid. They were treated with antibodies and steroid
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: network dude
None of the 4 had covid. The average after a viral infection is 1 in 100,000. That would mean the vaccine is certainly not riskier as far as GB goes than the average viral infection. You are tossing the dice either way, this is not something where the vaccine has risk and no vaccine has no risk. It sucks when something like this happens, but risk is REDUCED by the vaccine.
I'm not sure you are doing the math correctly.
If you do nothing, you risk getting covid, and if you do, you have a small chance of dying from it. (if you take the jab, you can still get covid, though it might not be as severe)
however, if you take the jab, you have a small chance of dying from the jab, and so far, the side effects either aren't known, or aren't advertised. Have you seen a list yet?
And if you had covid and got over it, you likely are more protected than if you get the vaccine, and if you don't take the shot, you can't be killed by it. And as we heard, this virus was horrible and most would get it, since it was so widespread that we all needed to pretend to be ER doc's in our dress up routine.
I see it as more risky to take the shot unless you are in the "likely going to die from covid" group. But I don't do math well either.
originally posted by: tamusan
Is this happening more often than it did with other vaccines?
originally posted by: network dude
Those individuals should not be worried about taking the vaccine, and those who do wish to take it, should be aware of any and all side effects of the vaccine, much like every other drug that exists in the world.
originally posted by: teapot
a reply to: network dude
The math is all skewed anyway. As the various vaccs have 'jumped' normal, stringent, testing/trial stages and are being offered as an 'emergency' measure, efficacy and safety data is incomplete and to fill this knowledge gap, there's a % in each population receiving placebo.
Factual information about what % placebo is being injected in each population is not readily available.
To keep it simple, lets surmise that population A is receiving 50% vaccs and 50% placebo; this means that pro-rata/per capita % data about ill effects would be double the amount compared to a population (B) receiving 100% vaccine.
originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
I'd like to see some links for that info. Thanks.
how many more of these threads should there be on ats?