Is Chaco Vally New Mexico a duplication of Mars

The Chaco Canyon settlement flourished between 850 and 1250 A.D. Some say it is much much older than that number. The Builders in Chaco Canyon had advanced stone masonry construction techniques, that allowed them to build 150 multi-story structures, some as tall as five to six stories in height, with hundreds of rooms. Most of the angles in the architecture, are as good as the modern construction that we have today. Additionally , the builders used about 240,000 trees, perhaps harvested from the Chuska Mountains about 50 miles to the west. Then suddenly, Chaco Canyon settlement was abandoned. This sounds very similar to other settlements that used sophisticated techniques to build cities, only to disappear.

I don't know if Chaco Valley New Mexico is a duplication of an area on Mars or if it's just coincidental, probably the later. I went flying over the week end and checked out Chaco Valley, 36 degrees 03 minutes 38.82 seconds North, 107 degrees 57 minutes 40.45 seconds West.

The google map of Mars show at 23 degrees 53 minutes 18.68 seconds South, 126 degrees 30 minutes 10.19 seconds East an area that remarkably looks very similar to Chaco Valley.




Could this civilization crashed landed, and it's builders, using their memory, build a memorial to the Martian colony that they evacuated from? I don't know, but the story is intriguing.

I am actually looking at visiting this area on my way home from Vegas. It was between this and Mesa Verde. I'm going to search for my own confirmations mind ya, but I do find what you are looking at intriguing.

I love the western portion of New Mexico. There is so much pre American history to explore there. The post American history is nearly just as crazy.

The landscape is out of this world. Love the old lava flows. Must look amazing from the sky.

a reply to: Violater1

I think you are stretching pretty far on this one. You are comparing massive random craters on mars to small holes dug in the desert and looking for patterns that are just not there.

I have seen the Chaco wash running deeper than I am tall after a rare rain. Then all of the desert plant quickly flowers. It a rare, beautiful site. I doubt it has anything to compare to Mars including the Kivas.

a reply to: Violater1

Greetings Violater1,

Interesting post, but dang, not sure about the theory though. There is an awful lot of dots, (craters); and one could connect any number of them to create just about anything.

I still gave you a star and flag for the post though, because stuff like this is interesting, and a great diversion from all the covid mess, and left-right politics and etc.

One that doesn't require any imagination is how come the numerous Native American ruins mirror exactly the Orion constellation?

These ruins are in AZ, New Mexico, and are an exact match up with what one sees in the sky!

How did they do the surveying over vast distances and terrain to accomplish this "site location" accuracy?

Been there, and it is a pretty cool place to check out, and so is Mesa Verde! Of the two, I enjoyed Mesa Verde more. It had more wild life to see in the park. Lots of big beautiful mule deer bucks with trophy horns on them...stunning.

Take care mate

Pravdaseeker

Very nice photo, and enjoyed reading your account of this settlement.

The replicated impact crater theory doesn't pass muster for me though.

Why would a civilization that can transit the solar system use impact craters as some sort of navigational or landmark system to recreate here on Earth? Also the aesthetic value of holes in the ground is rather dull, but maybe that's just me.

Moreover, if any civilization was living on the surface of Mars in antiquity, those impact craters would've likely occurred long after inhabitants had fled, otherwise the effects of an active, dynamic planet (i.e. weathering, wind, rain, vegetation) would be apparent, not to mention with a thicker atmosphere (which the ancient Mars inhabitants would rely on to live on the surface), many of those smaller impact craters don't occur (they burn up before reaching the surface).

In any case, thanks for pointing out Chaco Valley as an area of interest.

a reply to: Nickn3

Greetings again Nickn3,

I have tromped around that region in my youth, and yer right mate. Sometimes, when it rains there can be one heck of a river for short periods of time.

In the summer rainy times, you must be extra careful if you are out hiking in some canyon, or wash terrain. I remember one time when several tourists got killed near Page, Az in one of those flash flood events.

I saw what you described as a very robust blooming of the high desert region. I saw it once in ten years....so they are fairly rare.

What blew me away was the amount of wild ginseng that decided to pop up when it got tons of rain and snow. The Navajos were harvesting it by the truckloads.

They said it only happens about every 15 to 20 years.

Pravdaseeker

a reply to: Violater1
Very nice post. I love looking at the "old" ways of living. There is a lot of history written about why the folks there left. Climate, other peoples, and loss of environment. Check out the pack rat holes they found to tell you how the flora changed over time, and made the land less suitable for human.

Well if it is they sure did remember it wrong! Yikes maps like that would really get you lost even on Mars!

Are these circular foundations, that were just found by the Perseverance Martian explorer. Go to a reply to 0:48



Violater1

a reply to: Violater1

It's a neat correlation, but the causation leaves much to be desired.

I'm pretty sure that we could take anything with circles on it--even an overhead snapshot of some raindrops hitting a puddle of water--and be able to closely match it up to an area of craters on Mars...or on Luna, or on any heavenly body riddled with craters.

Or on a teenage boy's face of pimples.

It's pretty cool that someone found such a close match-up, though, and it's an interesting thought.

Pretty neat. Not sure if it's a Mars representation or not, but man I love exploring that area. That and Mesa Verde. I was born and raised in NM and there are so many incredible things to see.

This comparison ignore 95% of the craters in the image, their sizes and relative position doesnt match at all and theres even a nonexisting one circled (rightmost hand) that in no way exist as a circle in the ruins.

If its a duplication its like Earth being a duplicate of Mars. I mean its a sphere. That proves it.

originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: Violater1

It's a neat correlation, but the causation leaves much to be desired.

I'm pretty sure that we could take anything with circles on it--even an overhead snapshot of some raindrops hitting a puddle of water--and be able to closely match it up to an area of craters on Mars...or on Luna, or on any heavenly body riddled with craters.

Or on a teenage boy's face of pimples.

It's pretty cool that someone found such a close match-up, though, and it's an interesting thought.

As seen above your comment, there are what appear to be, circular foundations seen in the Mars recent video.

originally posted by: pravdaseeker
a reply to: Violater1

Greetings Violater1,

Interesting post, but dang, not sure about the theory though. There is an awful lot of dots, (craters); and one could connect any number of them to create just about anything.

I still gave you a star and flag for the post though, because stuff like this is interesting, and a great diversion from all the covid mess, and left-right politics and etc.

One that doesn't require any imagination is how come the numerous Native American ruins mirror exactly the Orion constellation?

These ruins are in AZ, New Mexico, and are an exact match up with what one sees in the sky!

How did they do the surveying over vast distances and terrain to accomplish this "site location" accuracy?

Been there, and it is a pretty cool place to check out, and so is Mesa Verde! Of the two, I enjoyed Mesa Verde more. It had more wild life to see in the park. Lots of big beautiful mule deer bucks with trophy horns on them...stunning.

Take care mate

Pravdaseeker

There are many similarities with the Pyramids of Egypt and the constellation of Orion, but not an exact match. The same thing may have happened here.
Not only are the major circular indentations line up , but so does the NASA pixelated path along the border line up as well. Very coincidental.

a reply to: Violater1

You should compare top views without perspective, otherwise it seems dishonest. You also shouldn't cherry pick craters and structures to fit whatever you are trying to prove to yourself because it feels even more dishonest. Instead you should highlight all bigger craters on both images and superimpose them to see relation. I fixed it for you.



It doesn't match at all.

If you pick which craters to compare and give everything such a big margin of error, you could match this structure to any landscape on any planet. You could match it to any pattern at all. I actually managed to get even better match with the first fizzy drink image I found on google.