Is America Headed Towards a Failed State

a reply to: MrNeo

The internal conflicts you describe are the difference between what the people say and what the government does. People say we are patriots and will defend our nation and our freedom. Then the democrats step in and calls us terrorists while ignoring the actual domestic terror happening in blue states.

The wokeism is just about the stupidest thing I have ever seen. 37 genders. What a bunch of crap. Don't use pronouns. Don't assume someone's gender. Does that mean a man can punch a woman in the face now since we don't use pronouns any more and we are all some kind of binary blob of cells? What if I identify as a gay bashing racist cannibal? God made me and God doesn't make mistakes. I can use that lame a$$ excuse too...

Jared Diamond wrote a book called "Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed". If you worry about America's future this is a must-read. And the sooner the better.

America is being controlled by failed city states. Nothing to worry about at this time.

However, if it bleeds out to the rural parts of America, that's when things could get interesting. Right now, America is as strong as it has been. Don't be fooled by 100 dudes running around in black clothes and with backpacks raising hell.

a reply to: yuppa

I get that. I meant that's what we were given and we let it slip away.

We are a corporation, not a country. But we still have a little time left to repair the damage done.

We just can't let minor groups, backed by corporations, Follywood, and MSM, take control of the wheel. They deserve a say so and should have rights, but there must be middle ground. This division madness Obama started has gotten out of hand.

There's so much that needs to be done, but it CAN be done if we work together.

Imagine if we acted in this manner with sperts as another divide. I liked the Redskins. And the Panthers. So I stop associating and interacting with anyone who likes other teams. If we all did that. And also music, food, name brand of clothes. It's childish and I cannot believe MSM has done this. They ARE the main blame. I'm starting to think they perfected subliminal messaging, in cooperation with tech companies. How did we fall so far so fast?

Funk it.

I started checking out videos of Russian cities, Japanese cities and there's a noticeable lack of garbage laying all over.
So I thought about it a bit deeper and realized something disturbing.
Maybe, maybe its true and America is the bad guy.

Plenty of places have garbage problems, try visiting India for example. Or try living in an industrial area of China and see how breathable the air is. It seems to me you live in an area which suffers from high tourism which results in a lot of litter. I'm sure there are some things you could do to reduce it, maybe lobby your local government to do more about it.

I come to this conclusion in the realization that.
antifa members in America are Americans.
BLM are Americans.
My entire life America has been at war with itself.

Large Antifa and BLM groups exist in other Western nations such as Australia and England. Also keep in mind these groups really only rose to prominence once Trump got elected and the woke media you described started pumping out propaganda which was anti-American, anti-Capitalism, anti-West, anti-everything related to what Trump stands for.

Lets also take a look at who produces the most pollution. A quick Google search produces a Wikipedia article with the following chart which shows how emissions have remained stable or even dropped in developed nations over the last few decades.
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China and the developing world are really the main contributing factors to rising global emissions, but is it really fair to tell developing nations they can't go through an industrial period? China is a different story though because they can't really be called a developing nation at this point, but everyone is too scared to call them out on it.

The attitude of Americans is that of consume, consume, consume and trash, trash, trash the environment.
Doesn't matter political affiliation.
Conservative drag old TVs, washers, dryers, refrigerators to the woods and shoot them up with their guns for fun.

No, that is your generalized attitude of what an American is. You have the ability to see both sides of the argument which is good, but this notion that all conservatives just want to consume and trash the environment is nonsense. It is illegal to dump trash in the woods but if someone wants to go shooting up an old washer on their own property I see little problem with that. One old washer out in the middle of no where isn't really hurting anybody or nature. Most of the time people who live out on property have an area designated for trash anyway.

What other country is a "Woke" as America?

Living outside the US, I can tell you right now there are plenty of places much more woke. The US is really quite late to the game in this regard, that's why I've been warning you guys in America for last several years what will happen if you allow the woke and their socialist philosophies to overtake American culture. As I've said before, the US is the last front for liberty and freedom in the Western world, if you give up those core ideals the entire world will become a failed state.

a reply to: MrNeo

Yes. If We the People continue to allow this tyranny, manipulation, and lies, then we will fail.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Um no.

We fought a Civil War partly over the policy of succession.

Individual State Nations, is not in our best interests, at all. Try and think out a few scenarios, like separate militaries. Separate Air Forces, and who gets the nukes. I mean really? No one State could ever handle multiple hurricanes like Louisiana or Florida without a central government. They wouldn't have the means. And so on and so forth.

Don't let all the "butt hurt" over the last election, and all the hate out there, allow you to think America, THE UNITED STATES, should be anything but.

a reply to: The2Billies

Nonsense.

This narrow minded thinking is why we're in the sorry state we're in.

Just because you can't imagine a federation of independent states working towards a common goal without an overarching federal government, doesn't mean it won't work..

How do I know?

Because that's how this country was designed to be.

A loose federation of states working together towards a common goal without an overarching federal government.

But morons like to give up their own freedom to make that federal government as big and overarching as possible.

Sheep.

We didn't fight a war over secession.

We fought a war because the south manufactured 80% of THE WORLDS cotton, and the north wanted a cut. Mostly, because the big, bad federal government is good for two things: war and taxes.

The country was broke from the war of 1812 and started taxing the hell out of the south.

www.mightytaxes.com...

a reply to: MrNeo

Although the US is nowhere near a failed state, the trash situation (like the COVID situation) is a reflection of the health of the body politic.

If you look at all the nations with clean streets and low COVID death rates, they tend to be social democracies where people democratically engaged.

If you look at all the nations with dirty streets and high COVID death rates, they tend to be individualistic nations where people consider themselves consumers of public services rather than participants.

Catch-22.

a reply to: MrNeo

There is no solution and yes America is on it's way out. Who will run this country after that is anybody's guess but there are some that would make more sense than others.

The experiment in self government was a neat idea but it would never work because humans are greedy, power hungry and for the most part lazy. When ever you can vote for free goodies you have already lost.

Too bad because we could have done better.

a reply to: MrNeo

What you need to keep in mind is that all those movements from the left side of the politics - aim at destroying USA as a world power. And are driven by China, under guidance of Russia.

Then of course USA has done major political mistakes, such as moving poduct technologies and manufacturing to China. That has created a monster now, which basically is very difficult to contain.

That said, there is not much left of USA to worry about, when Biden/Harris have completed their term.

But. Good memories remain.

People buy cheap Chinese goods wherever they are available. The idea Americans are just fat consumers is pretty bigoted and ignores the rest of the world. My UK and Japanese friends LOVE buying stuff, way more useless junk than I ever buy.

America is struggling from the manufactured political, racial and class divides that those in power raise the temperature on daily. These new issues America faces are issues of globalism, and every other nation faces them too.

a reply to: MrNeo

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Um no.

We fought a Civil War partly over the policy of succession.

Individual State Nations, is not in our best interests, at all. Try and think out a few scenarios, like separate militaries. Separate Air Forces, and who gets the nukes. I mean really? No one State could ever handle multiple hurricanes like Louisiana or Florida without a central government. They wouldn't have the means. And so on and so forth.

Don't let all the "butt hurt" over the last election, and all the hate out there, allow you to think America, THE UNITED STATES, should be anything but.

a reply to: The2Billies

Butt hurt over the last election? California was saying they wanted to secede and quite openly when Trump won.

Our nation is so philosophically divided and the people have such deep hatred of each other that we are in a really bad marriage. Divorce may be the only option.

Before the election of 2020 CA, WA, OR were all saying they would secede if Trump won. It shows that our nation is now totally unable to work or come together. Biden even trashed Republicans and conservative US citizens at the G7 proving to the entire world that he really has no intention of bringing the nation together. He called US conservatives, well over 70 million US citizens "phony populists and autocrats".

We need a divorce and it will be messy like all divorces, but perhaps necessary to end the extreme violence we are seeing from both camps.

After 200 years together, the marriage of the states is becoming irreconcilable and even the Democrats appear to want a divorce from the rhetoric they spout daily. Biden calling conservatives phony populists/autocrats/not very good people: Michelle O calling conservatives people who support lies, hate and chaos: Obama calling conservatives people who cling to their guns and Bibles: Hillary and nearly every other Democrat in the US almost daily call well over 70 million US conservatives racists/sexists/homophobes/etc.

So why the he-double-toothpicks would they want to keep the marriage together? Nope, time for a divorce when the politicians in power (Democratic Party) openly hate and loathe, quite publicly, every single US citizen who doesn't agree 100% with all aspects of their ideology and desired policies.

So let's make it peaceful and friendly. Let the states that want to go, go and go in peace.

“A strong central leader will save us.”

History doesn’t repeat itself; but sometimes it rhymes.


The Weimar Republic tried to print its way out of stagnation+inflation.

Jimmy Carter wanted to try that in 1978, but the federal reserve wouldn’t let him. Because Weimar. Everyone who remembers that is dead now.

The leftist radicals owned the streets after dark; anarchy was the result. The police were afraid to stop them, and the reichstag was as well. Roving bands of right wing veterans were the only force that protected middle class neighborhoods from arson and murder.

There was an abortive coup from the right, the “Beer-Hall Putsch”, that got the leaders all imprisoned....

I wonder what struggles the prisoners are overcoming as they put pen to paper in their jail cells right now....

Anyone who isn't happy with the United States can piss off to some third world s***hole and get a real example of what failure tastes like.