First case of postmortem study in a patient vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

One case means vaccines are danger yet the millions around the world without any Ill effects are disregarded?

Talk about an outlier...

This is coming from you, a person who continues to big talk specific scenarios about the doom and gloom of humanity and pin it on a specific cause or reason. Typical.

It’s more than one case.

The CdC itself is having to admit there are now more deaths from the covid-19 injections so far, than the number of deaths from all vaccines combined, since they started keeping track in 1990.

But you are free to take and enjoy the experimental gene therapy. You may, however, at some point in the future, very much wish you had not dismissed the early warnings. There is enough information- credible information- for anyone who is actually looking at it without coming at it from a political motive.

a reply to: 1947boomer

BTW, the study itself includes the following statement...

...
We demonstrated viral RNA in nearly all organs examined except for the liver and the olfactory bulb.
...

www.sciencedirect.com...

What does viral RNA means?...

An RNA virus is a virus that has RNA as its genetic material. This nucleic acid is usually single-stranded RNA but may be double-stranded RNA. Notable human diseases caused by RNA viruses include the common cold, influenza, SARS, MERS, COVID-19, Dengue Virus, hepatitis C, hepatitis E, West Nile fever, Ebola virus disease, rabies, polio and measles...

en.wikipedia.org...

One more thing... mRNA vaccines cause your entire body to make the spike protein of CoV-2. Since this old man's olfactory bulb was negative for CoV-2, it means he did not get infected by breathing the virus in. Several studies have proved that the spike protein of the virus itself causes CoV-2...

It's pretty obvious whom is lying, and that isn't me...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Since the immune system should be targeting and destroying the spike protein, how could so many organs show the spike protein (PCR testing is not antibody testing, and therefore the actual protein is almost everywhere in his body)?

The vaccine produces the protein locally at the injection site and then the immune response destroys it, so to have it all through his organs indicates that they are infected by the virus, which carries and replicates the protein.

The statement in your OP that the proteins were from the vaccine, is clearly erroneous and there is nothing to indicate where they came from.

The article specifically mentioned that he had tested positive to the virus (not to just the spike protein part of it) before he died.

The vaccine administered was the Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, which is supposed to be administered in two doses. He had only had the first dose.

It would appear that the vaccine did not trigger sufficient immune response in this individual, or the the infection was already in a position to overwhelm his immune response prior to him achieving any sort of immune response.

In fact, after reading the actual article, this person was extremely unwell before contracting COVID-19.

The patient was immune-compromised, with numerous serious chronic medical conditions, and had severe diarrhea, enough to get him hospitalized for it, on day 18 after receiving the vaccine.

On day 24, the patient beside him tested positive for COVID-19. The patient himself tested positive for COVID-19 the very next day with high viral load. He died the following day.

Here's a link to the actual paper, rather than an abstract

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Treatments such as Ivermectin, and Hydrochloroquine have been found to be effective in curing and as preventative measures against COVID-19 a

No, they haven't. Stop lying.

Why do you think so? - c19ivermectin.com...

“I Don’t Know of a Bigger Story in the World” Right Now Than Ivermectin
www.nakedcapitalism.com...

FLCCC Alliance Statement on the Irregular Actions of Public Health Agencies and the Widespread Disinformation Campaign Against Ivermectin
covid19criticalcare.com... despread-disinformation-campaign-against-ivermectin/


bird-group.org...

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

One case means vaccines are danger yet the billions around the world without any Ill effects are disregarded?

Ftfy in bold. But you're spot on.

My grandpa is 89. Got his second shot in February, I think. Grandma is 83 with alzheimers, survived cancer 3 times now, and she has a pacemaker. They got their shots together.. They're both fine, I hung out with them today.

If either one of them die in the next few months or years, it's because they're old and they have health problems. They likely would have not survived a symptomatic case of covid though. Now if they get it, their chances of living increase substantially.

So, the OP shows one case where the vaccine did mess somebody up and they died. And you say one case doesn't prove anything.
Yet.... you provide one example where the vaccine didn't kill and that proves it's not dangerous.

Do you not see a problem with your whole way of looking at things?

Put your name as creator of the OP and his name in your post; reverse roles. Do you see what I'm saying now? If you don't understand what I'm saying, don't just troll me back.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: booyakasha
the Nuremberg code of ethics is the last thing the commie globalists are worried about with their depopulation agenda.

They want to depopulate the world to an easily manageable 500,000,000 people.

I don't think they will win, but they want 7 billion people to die. That is the entire purpose of this bioweapon.

Why would "they" want that? Their money comes from people. Less people = less money. If "they" are killing off people, it won't be the compliant ones.

You obviously don't get a lot of things. If they're trying to kill off most of the people on planet Earth, it doesn't matter to those doing it who gets killed - they want them all dead - compliant and non-compliant. To them, they're all "useless eaters." Why wouldn't they get the "easiest" ones first?

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: 1947boomer

BTW, the study itself includes the following statement...

...
We demonstrated viral RNA in nearly all organs examined except for the liver and the olfactory bulb.
...

www.sciencedirect.com...

What does viral RNA means?...

Viral RNA means RNA from a virus. That isn't a protein, not even a 'spike' one. Nor is it necessarily RNA from a vaccine only.

An RNA virus is a virus that has RNA as its genetic material. This nucleic acid is usually single-stranded RNA but may be double-stranded RNA. Notable human diseases caused by RNA viruses include the common cold, influenza, SARS, MERS, COVID-19, Dengue Virus, hepatitis C, hepatitis E, West Nile fever, Ebola virus disease, rabies, polio and measles...

en.wikipedia.org...

One more thing... mRNA vaccines cause your entire body to make the spike protein of CoV-2.

No, they don't.

They cause the cells into which they are directly injected to make the spike protein.

Then your body's immune system identifies and destroys the spike protein each time it finds it. It does this by creating antibodies to the spike protein.

It is these antibodies which are replicated around the body. Not the spike protein.

Since this old man's olfactory bulb was negative for CoV-2, it means he did not get infected by breathing the virus in. Several studies have proved that the spike protein of the virus itself causes CoV-2...

It's pretty obvious whom is lying, and that isn't me...

You are assuming that the virus is ONLY airborne, and was ONLY breathed in through the nose.

Clearly, if the patient touched something that had the virus on it, and then touched their eyes or mouth, then the virus would infect along the mucous membranes, that it seems to have affinity for, wherever it was carried.

Perhaps, also, the olfactory bulb was too dry, or didn't have cells that the virus could easily penetrate, or perhaps his nose was just blocked (no air flow, no movement of virus particles)?

Also they didn't die of blood clots, they died of the pneumonia very similar to other acute cases of COVID-19.

a reply to: TrulyColorBlind

It's tough to tell what the motivation behind the vaccines are.
I sure don't like the effects it has on magnets AND metal.
There's hours of people discovering this and an active debunk campaign going on.
We are in a wild timeline right now.
These videos are everywhere..heres an hour and a half one..there's a ton more.
Creeeeeeepy
magnetic vaccinated

a reply to: chr0naut

Unfortunately you are an expert on nothing and heavily politically biased on all your responses, so I'm forced to ignore your opinions.
There's too much conflicting information to form an opinion as strong as yours at this point.
We all know the talking points you are repeating.
Give it a rest please. We can all switch on cnn.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

This is what happens when people are asleep and do not inform themselves instead of relying on the false claims from the mainstream media, and CCP loyalist democrat leaders alongside RINOS...

Seems a good part of the population would rather die than think for themselves doesn't it?

You laid this thread out perfectly OP
SnF

originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: chr0naut

Unfortunately you are an expert on nothing and heavily politically biased on all your responses, so I'm forced to ignore your opinions.
There's too much conflicting information to form an opinion as strong as yours at this point.
We all know the talking points you are repeating.
Give it a rest please. We can all switch on cnn.

As I keep saying, I am not an American. I just don't watch or read much on American media. There's a whole world out there...

And this topic thread is about the interpretation/s of a scientific study. Nothing to do with politics, which, if you will take the time to notice, I didn't reference at all in any of my posts in this thread.

If you want affirmation, go shout the words that will echo comfortably back, into some other chamber...

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Treatments such as Ivermectin, and Hydrochloroquine have been found to be effective in curing and as preventative measures against COVID-19 a

No, they haven't. Stop lying.

They most certainly have...Hydroxychloraquine even saved a Democrat legislator in Michigan...so, he's certainly not lying...lol

Agree with everything you posted.

I have a 50 year old male friend who’s had over 20 operations since April, such as multiple bowel resections, and has almost died many times (still not out of the woods and still in ICU) due to blood clots, now presumed to be related to the vaccine.

My mother has severe pericarditis three months after dose 2, as well as other minor new problems with blood chemistries.

I am 50 and our doctor has now “come to the dark side” and is not recommending the vaccine for any more patients (including me) at this tome. He is Indian and his brother is a doctor in India. His brother’s clinic there is supposedly successfully treating patients with ivermectin. His India-based doctor brother also says that western media greatly distorted the CV situation in India, in general.

People can believe what they want and do what they want but as for me and mine (I’ve had covid already and had no symptoms) we will be skipping the jab.

a reply to: KansasGirl

a reply to: chr0naut


They're offering people weed to take the vaccine. I'm tempted
to post a thousand laughing Emoji's at their silly crap. But even
more maniacal is people are still defending it. Give it up already

The experiment is over. Those who took part have a very uncertain
future to face. We who refused who knows what horrors we
will endure. In fact we may end up wishing we were just as blind.

But this is our reality and we are all looking at it in disbelief. So
it is what it is. And if the elite want to kill off a huge portion of
humanity? We all know they always get their way. The vaccine
may very well be the easy way out. The main thing is at some
point we all need to stop bickering like little girls. That's killing
us more than any virus or experimental vaccine or whatever this
crap is.

It isn't the mark, that's just silly. But my own thought is it might
very well be a component of sorts. That has to be present in the
body to make the mark operate properly. Pure speculation on my
part. But knowing where they were headed with this from the
beginning wasn't speculation at all. It was just common sense.

First the old folk and now the stoners! Who are these people?

a reply to: Mandroid7

It's tough to tell what the motivation behind the vaccines are.
I sure don't like the effects it has on magnets AND metal.
There's hours of people discovering this and an active debunk campaign going on.
We are in a wild timeline right now.
These videos are everywhere..heres an hour and a half one..there's a ton more.
Creeeeeeepy
magnetic vaccinated

Even I laughed at the magnetism when I first heard about it. And ATS
put some threads in LOL. Few people may have an apology coming
on that one. In this type of insanity how does one not lose their mind?

originally posted by: booyakasha
they want control and power. Money is just a mechanism to get that control.

Sure. They want to be broke, and control the people who blow all of their money on guns to rise against them. Makes total sense.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: booyakasha
the Nuremberg code of ethics is the last thing the commie globalists are worried about with their depopulation agenda.

They want to depopulate the world to an easily manageable 500,000,000 people.

I don't think they will win, but they want 7 billion people to die. That is the entire purpose of this bioweapon.

Why would "they" want that? Their money comes from people. Less people = less money. If "they" are killing off people, it won't be the compliant ones.

They are giving the vaccine away for free in most places in America and not only free they also give away donuts, weed, and Starbucks coffee and that’s just in my area. I am not comfortable sharing my personal information with you but I wish I could show you pictures I have on my phone of all the free covid vaccinations you can get in my local area. I hardly believe it is a money problem when the world around me at the least wants to just give you the harmless little jab.

Sorry to say for you friend I don’t agree with you on this one but it will not deter me from saying if you were right here right now I have a cooler filled with beer and a thing of rum, my whiskey is in a cabinet away from that bull# ice.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: booyakasha
they want control and power. Money is just a mechanism to get that control.

Sure. They want to be broke, and control the people who blow all of their money on guns to rise against them. Makes total sense.

7 billion people are hard to control…….cut that number in half…..much easier to manage…….and they already have more money than they will ever need………..

a reply to: LordAhriman

Do you think Hitler worried about a monetary deficit to the German
economy when he rounded up all the Jewish people? Was he worried
about the cost of shipping six million human beings off to be gassed
in concentration camps? Or maybe you're aware that everything they
owned went to the war effort. Even the gold teeth in their heads.

How much did it cost Stalin to let millions of his own people starve
to death? Do you realize how fertile the killing fields are for growing
food now? Are you just trying to convince yourself you have an argument
with this tripe?

Sure. They want to be broke, and control the people who blow all of their money on guns to rise against them. Makes total sense.

Depopulation is an economically great idea when you think
you own the planet and everything in and on it. I seriously think
some brain food might be in order if you think money has any
thing to do with it.

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: chr0naut

They're offering people weed to take the vaccine. I'm tempted
to post a thousand laughing Emoji's at their silly crap. But even
more maniacal is people are still defending it. Give it up already

The experiment is over. Those who took part have a very uncertain
future to face. We who refused who knows what horrors we
will endure. In fact we may end up wishing we were just as blind.

But this is our reality and we are all looking at it in disbelief. So
it is what it is. And if the elite want to kill off a huge portion of
humanity? We all know they always get their way. The vaccine
may very well be the easy way out. The main thing is at some
point we all need to stop bickering like little girls. That's killing
us more than any virus or experimental vaccine or whatever this
crap is.

It isn't the mark, that's just silly. But my own thought is it might
very well be a component of sorts. That has to be present in the
body to make the mark operate properly. Pure speculation on my
part. But knowing where they were headed with this from the
beginning wasn't speculation at all. It was just common sense.

First the old folk and now the stoners! Who are these people?

They appear to be Americans.

Apparently 308 million doses have been administered there, and the daily new cases, and deaths from COVID-19, are dropping rapidly. Seems to be a major failure if they are trying to kill people.

Of course, if it is just a public health initiative by a responsible and democratic first-world government that values personal freedom and rule of law, you'd look like a right kook.