where are we

i dont know but we are in a better position then weve ever been in as ufologists, when lue and his team came out to the world and told us after studying the ufo phenomenon for 10 years i repeat 10 years and after having been exposed to top secret information we found some things out

1. the govt created a ufo program to study the ufo phenomenon

2. they aquired enough data to develope the 5 observables

3. they aquired enough data to develope theoretical methods that the phenomenon uses to do what they do

4. they aquired enough data to say that ufo tech uses advanced physics unknown to humans at this point

5. they aquired enough data to guesstimate that the ufo tech is 100 to 1000 years ahead of human knowledge, i believe 1000 minimum

so instead of saying thank you for what yall do they get # on by a bunch of nobodies who have zero access to top secret data, no one knew the govt was even doing this, some of us old timers knew who have the capability of discernment, some of us who can think for ourselves knew, my secret has always been pay attention only to those with top secret clearences and who deal with the ufo topic and or if they were a part of a major event or an old school ufo researcher, those are the only people i listen too because everyone else has zero access to the facts

supposedly the report will say they ruled out us tech, chinese tech, russian tech, zimbawe tech, and even alien tech kinda, whew glad they ruled all that out but what does leave us? only god knows i guess, the good news is is that we have 120 cases worth of data in which they made their analysis on that hopefully they will declassify and release to the public because after all theres nothing to hide now, nothing to be scared of, so im hoping we can all ask for the data to be released so we can do our own analysis

im thankful for the govt in trying to be more transparent with this issue, i mean they have enough on their plate with real world human adversaries sabre rattling almost on a daily basis causing the need to plan things im not even going to guess at and here we are begging for data we paid for, but this is just the beginning and im hoping they can organize themselves better for continued disclosure

education is key with any subject matter, the more you know the more you can understand, it is especially important with the ufo phenomenon because were dealing with an alien reality with human limitations while the govt tries to hide it all the while but well get there, question of the day is anybody know what hal is talking about? oh nevermind ill figure that out later so heres another one could this all be one big pysops lie? if so what gives it away?

Whatever they are, we haven't been attacked by an adversary at this time.

Think about this as a competitive game, what would be the most intelligent course of action for us to take, if we took those things to all be true?

We continue to develop our own technology, and attempt to replicate the observed behavior or surpass it.

That's the best we've got for now, in terms of what this means for us in practical realistic approaches.

If these things are real, and they make an aggressive hostile action, what do we do then, is the more interesting question.

How do you fight those things?

originally posted by: Archivalist
How do you fight those things?

Particularly when it appears they can get in our heads? People forget that high strangeness is a significant component to the core phenomenon.

a reply to: saskwatch

I wouldn't worry about it too much, what ever it is, it's non threatening. If it was, we would shoot it down. Well, as far as if you can shoot lights down.

originally posted by: saskwatch
...after all theres nothing to hide now, nothing to be scared of, so im hoping we can all ask for the data to be released so we can do our own analysis...

I wish it could be that way too!
Sadly, belief that government will announce it if they made contact is poor understanding of the government.
There is no way the government will ever allow the public the full truth.
History has thousands of examples of their constant deception and virtually ZERO examples of actual honesty, ever.
You simply cannot manipulate a population with honesty, and they have almost never exercised it.
Not in WW1, WW2, Vietnam, 9/11, Middle East, National Media, Cuban Missile Crisis, Waco, USSR.... NEVER.

Don't expect them to start now.

originally posted by: saskwatch
supposedly the report will say they ruled out us tech, chinese tech, russian tech, zimbawe tech, and even alien tech kinda, whew glad they ruled all that out but what does leave us?

Did they rule out batman balloons? I heard they did, but I'm skeptical of that claim. I guess you could say batman balloons are none of the above if you consider them "not tech".

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: Ectoplasm8
a reply to: Lucidparadox

So alien beings just happen to create a spacecraft with the exact same design as the Batman balloon as shown?

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: Archivalist
How do you fight those things?

Particularly when it appears they can get in our heads? People forget that high strangeness is a significant component to the core phenomenon.

Exactly. We are not outmatched in just nuts and bolts aircraft tech. There is this side to it as well.

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: Archivalist
How do you fight those things?

Particularly when it appears they can get in our heads?

I thought that was only supposed to apply to people who weren't wearing their tinfoil hats.

originally posted by: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: saskwatch
supposedly the report will say they ruled out us tech, chinese tech, russian tech, zimbawe tech, and even alien tech kinda, whew glad they ruled all that out but what does leave us?

Did they rule out batman balloons? I heard they did, but I'm skeptical of that claim. I guess you could say batman balloons are none of the above if you consider them "not tech".

If a Batman Balloon is considered 100 - 1000 years ahead of current US Military Tech then we have a problem!

a reply to: saskwatch


You are none the wiser after this faux disclosure.


The footage was available long before a government voice told you what to think about it.


You call yourself a ufologist. Where did you obtain your degree? Or are you trawling the internet like the rest of us after reading some books on the subject?


Any blind appeal to an authority that has time and again been exposed for lying and manipulating the public suggests either you want to propagate their lies or you're not aware of who you're dealing with.


Couple this with the fact that this stupid little disclosure event took place at a very precarious, non-ufo related point in American history while the rest of the world's governments did not simultaneously disclose this information to their people and what do you get?


An administration in trouble.

The truth about fauci and the china virus is knocking on your door.

Same with the election.


Also the divide and conquer political policy they are using against their people and the corporations have jumped at the chance to join in the fray.


But here you are singing 'you've got a friend in me' on behalf of the government.


Either way, not a good look for a 'ufologist' or any searcher of truth.


Shut up and spoon feed me is not a good look.

originally posted by: djz3ro
If a Batman Balloon is considered 100 - 1000 years ahead of current US Military Tech then we have a problem!

Ordinary batman balloons are not that advanced, it's the batman balloons that can remain completely stationary in high winds that are 100-1000 years beyond our batman balloon technology.

Pentagon's leaked UFO sighting was a Batman balloon, internet argues 'Exact proportions'
Of course, we have no proof of the claim it didn't move in high winds, just the photo and people flapping their gums with their inaccurate perceptions or claims about what it did or didn't do, which are apparently 3rd, 4th or 5th hand accounts, because we haven't heard directly from the pilot or seen the data.

Party balloons shaped like the number 1 are also 100-1000 years beyond our technology, when they defy the laws of physics:

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: saskwatch
supposedly the report will say they ruled out us tech, chinese tech, russian tech, zimbawe tech, and even alien tech kinda, whew glad they ruled all that out but what does leave us?

Did they rule out batman balloons? I heard they did, but I'm skeptical of that claim. I guess you could say batman balloons are none of the above if you consider them "not tech".

If a Batman Balloon is considered 100 - 1000 years ahead of current US Military Tech then we have a problem!

But who said that ?
I know , do you ?

a reply to: saskwatch

Hmmm were are we, you know I have been asking myself that same question though more from a personal note most of my life, here is one think to yourself beyond your given name and try to find a name that feel's right at the very deepest level of your mind, you may find you do not have one but that does not mean you do not exist.

The only answer for you or me or even for an ET is this.

We are HERE, always HERE no matter were the rest of the universe may be, we are always the centre of our own universe or perhaps we are just an observer of the centre of what we think is our own universe?.

I am but who am I, I am here but where is here and does it even have reference since Here moved were ever I am in time and space perhaps even outside of Time and Space?.

As for the crap being fed to the public like a drip feed while the people in the know are sitting on an ocean of information and probably know a hell of a lot more than you or me.

Well let's put it this way, useful to distract the Chinese and the Russians and anybody else from the fact that some at least are actually black budget US projects, admitting UFO's are real also gives them added plausible deniability it was not us it was them.

UFO's have a very long history however and Roswell was far from the first crash on US soil as there were definitely other's including the Aurora crash were the townsfolk gave the not human pilot a Christian burial and treated him or her with respect until the body was stolen at some later point in time likely by a clandestine US agency.

But even before that they go back into distant antiquity.

They could be anything, campers, day trippers taking in the sight's and sounds of a primitive savage planet, descendants of a people that may have left the earth long ago but because of the biohazards of our world and there own mutations to space and loss of immunity they can never come back too but wish they could perhaps, or just about any other explanation the science fiction addled mind can come up with.

To be fair I think we have some technology that is far beyond what the general public will ever see, that for some reason technology that could have redefined the human race has been concealed to keep us down and a tiny elite of crook's in power and that even the military probably does not have access to most of it.

Basically we are right were we started, non the wiser, still HERE and still not a clue or rather too many clues some with very scary breadcrumb trails that lead to some very dark interpretations.

But as long as they remain unexplained and unidentified they will remain an enigma.

But here is a counter question, even if we knew would it make a lot of difference?.

originally posted by: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: Archivalist
How do you fight those things?

Particularly when it appears they can get in our heads?

I thought that was only supposed to apply to people who weren't wearing their tinfoil hats.

Well then I guess we're safe.

originally posted by: Blue Shift
Well then I guess we're safe.

You mean ATS members with Tin Foil Hats?

Hopefully. People in the public without tin foil hats have no protection though.

What ever happened to the tin foil hat contests anyway? The winners were decided based on who got the most stars, but, wouldn't it be more important to know which tin foil hat designs were doing the best job of keeping aliens from getting into the wearer's head?

3rd Annual ATS Tin-Foil Hat Contest


Even wearing my tin foil hat doesn't prevent me from getting a headache when the UAP task force leaks a photo of a batman balloon with a story saying it can't possibly be a batman balloon, so I think I need an upgrade.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

Boring fashionably.....but probably most helpful.....

Medical Grade
www.medicalexpo.com...

originally posted by: Arbitrageur
Even wearing my tin foil hat doesn't prevent me from getting a headache when the UAP task force leaks a photo of a batman balloon with a story saying it can't possibly be a batman balloon, so I think I need an upgrade.

The hats at least protect us from the stupidity rays (some of them, anyway). I reiterate that my plan is to create a lightweight carbon fiber helmet like a full-head motorcycle helmet that has a built-in Faraday cage that includes coverage for the undersides as well as the top. Even though we know alien mind control rays come from the sky.

Of course, you gotta sleep in it or what's the point? They get in your dreams most of all.

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: Arbitrageur

Boring fashionably.....but probably most helpful.....

Medical Grade
www.medicalexpo.com...

Too much open face. That's where they get you.

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: Arbitrageur

Boring fashionably.....but probably most helpful.....

Medical Grade
www.medicalexpo.com...

Too much open face. That's where they get you.

Well if we could do this below...and instead mould with signal blocking materials....this innovation will be with you 7/24 until you die. Of course they’ll have to remove most of your natural skull.....

Of course modified to include face bone structure...

Sleeping and or invading your dreams should not be a problem

Medical First: 3-D Printed Skull Successfully Implanted in Woman

Source: www.nbcnews.com...

a reply to: Arbitrageur

They (both, Them, and the guberment), do not need to “get into our brainwaves” to manipulate our thought processes.

Much of what we see is what we expect. Mess with that chain of evidence and you have “manipulated the minds” of a witness.

Then you have directed energy weapons that do screw with your brainwaves.

That should be the definition of FUD!

A little understanding on brain (memory) formation and you can make any sighting anything from nothing to Jesus returning!!