U.S. Government Report Finds No Evidence of Alien Technology in Flying Objects......

a reply to: Erno86

The interview above, like previous interviews, shows once again that Lue, himself, will not admit to the possible existence of alien craft or aliens as a personal belief. He says everything else to skirt around having to make an admission either way. He is the master of We’s...we we we.... In fact more than once he has said....”it doesn’t matter what I believe in” as he avoids to get pinned down on whether he personally believes in the existence, or more to the point, that UAP’s may be extraterrestrials. I’d like to hear him actually use the word Alien(s) in association with UAP’s.

It’s a simple question he doesn’t have the gonads to answer......

Lue do you believe in extraterrestrial beings and craft....Yes or No?

Lue do you believe that some of these UAP’s are controlled remotely or piloted by Alien extraterrestrials....Yes or No?

Instead....”well I need to be very careful in what I say.....we we we.....”

Security Clearance...NDA....blah blah blah. A smoke screen excuse.

Lue....your a let down...plain and simple!

I’d vote for dog in an election before I’d ever vote for you...

Yes, you helped to bring up UFO/UAP to the world stage....but you evade what you, yourself, personally believes. That makes for the worst type of politician!

They don't know what these things are, but they were able to conclude they're not alien.

Sounds like government workers to me. If they can't do anything else, get them a job in government. 🙄

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

You're very quick to dismiss anyone's opinion if they dont believe uap's are alien driven.

What scientific analysis do you do on video's?

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

You're very quick to dismiss anyone's opinion if they dont believe uap's are alien driven.

What scientific analysis do you do on video's?

On the question of extraterrestrials alone...You either believe within yourself that gut feeling, without physical proof...that Aliens do or do not exist...

Lue doesn’t express his gut feeling.

Scientific analysis? To prove anything Alien by us, less advanced humans .. is subjective and speculative imo. I do not do “scientific” analysis, I do WAG analysis like lots of folk here.

Proof of anything, at least for me, is hard evidence as concluded by a consensus of a consortium body of individuals that concur after the analysis by competent science has been done.

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
without physical proof...that Aliens do or do not exist...

Whether aliens exist or not is not the key question. Let us assume that aliens do in fact exist. People think of Seth Shostak as some kind of skeptic on aliens but obviously if he's spending his life searching for them, he believes they exist.

One question Shostak has and that we all should have is, are any of them visiting Earth? Joe Rogan told Neil Tyson he thinks they aren't visiting Earth in person, but maybe what some UFOs are is alien probes. I think Seth Shostak might have mentioned something like that possibility, but it's hard to remember because they do the MIB flash memory wipe thing, that's supposed to make us forget, but fortunately I had already saved this link before they did the memory wipe flash.


The Science of Alien Sightings | StarTalk


As for Lue Waffling, first, he's has 20 years experience in counterintelligence, so remember that. But even if his claims were true of amazing performance (I've never seen any real scientific evidence supporting that), how would he know that China isn't building craft with the tech in the Salvatore Pais patents? Remember the patent office rejected those saying they seemed ridiculous or something, but the Navy pleaded with them to approve them because China is working on that stuff, which if they really were then the Chinese craft could do what the aliens could do. But they still seem like nonsense except for this which doesn't seem like nonsense:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

As for the military, well some of their more esoteric projects are nothing more than distractions for nations outside the US sphere of influence anyway and nothing more than perception management operations.

No one is asking the navy jet pilots, military, etc the following:

Was there any

1. Telepathy
2. Missing Time
3. Control
4. Radiation

My reasons for the cover up:
1. They thought Roswell Grey's are demons from the Bible.
2. They realized ET's are benevolent and that is a threat to the global power structure.
3. The ET's are the Star People all indigenous people knew about and that culture was all destroyed by colonization.

All of this underwater, basically mermaid talk, center of the earth, is baloney...and Elon Musk pushing the theory we live in a video game is ridiculous too. AI will never be more powerful than humans. The AI/simulation talk is to pull us away from what the human brain is capable of. It's definitely biological entities that are visiting us from perhaps the Milky Way Galaxy or further away.

NASA threw us a bone they're able to detect foreign objects from outside our Solar System coming in, ʻOumuamua. That's the first and only one they made public. They cover it up because of Christianity and it's a threat to the Global capitalists.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

Joe Rogan told Neil Tyson he thinks they aren't visiting Earth in person, but maybe what some UFOs are is alien probes. I think Seth Shostak might have mentioned something like that possibility

I seen a metallic sphere about 6ft above my head. It had a 1cm ridge around the centre of it. Not shiny metal, like old old unpolished silver. Silent, daytime 2004. It followed a river dead centre all the way, same height all the way. Followed bends in the river didnt deviate from height or speed.
I believe for sure that was a probe. Following a river? Mapping? Probing for sure.
Ireland isn't a superpower we dont have superpower enemies.

I believe 'they' have probes all over this blue rock. Who 'they' are is another question

a reply to: SecretKnowledge

... I seen a metallic sphere about 6ft above my head. It had a 1cm ridge around the centre of it. Not shiny metal, like old old unpolished silver. Silent, daytime 2004...

You mean like this?

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: SecretKnowledge

... I seen a metallic sphere about 6ft above my head. It had a 1cm ridge around the centre of it. Not shiny metal, like old old unpolished silver. Silent, daytime 2004...

You mean like this?

Hey, I did a little .gif of that one! There were two photos taken.

Makes it look like two stainless steel salad bowls stuck together.

a reply to: Mob77

Thanks for the info. While reading that I caught a mistake I may have made. I seem to recall that one of the early reporters, possibly Corso himself, made the point that the companies entrusted with the retrieved materials were not actually contractors, but rather, they were essentially gifted the materials with instruction to reverse engineer them and put the newly crafted derivatives to commercial use. Thus the claim is made that this is how fiber optics was developed.

UFO Follies for a Friday.....
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Only headlines of what’s being bantered around concerning....you guessed it ....UFOs/UAPs
(You’ll have to zoom in on the organization next to the logo icon, then track the story down from there.)

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

The recent article in Scientific American provides a refreshingly balanced perspective on the upcoming Pentagon report but also points to the media as a possible reason why the subject has been, historically, difficult to discuss in scientific arenas.

Andrew Fraknoi, an astronomer at the Fromm Institute for Lifelong Learning at the University of San Francisco, echoes the widely held sentiment among scientists that, for decades, the media has lavished too much attention on sensational claims that vague lights in the sky are actually extraterrestrial spacecraft. “Recently, there has been a flurry of misleading publicity about UFOs [based on military reports]. A sober examination of these claims reveals that there is a lot less to them than first meets the eye,” Fraknoi says. Given sufficient evidence (which, arguably, many of the recent reports fail to provide), UFO sightings can essentially always be tied to terrestrial or celestial phenomena, such as lights from human-made vehicles and reentering space junk, he adds.

www.scientificamerican.com...

All told, that the mainstream is now discussing the subject beyond it's novelty and entertainment value seems to me to be a break-through of sorts. Additionally, the article indicates a willingness by the scientific community to get in on the game - depending upon what material the report presents in support of it's position that this is a known unknown - and indeed, to form a study for the purposes of informing Congress on the phenomenon.

Harvard University astrophysicist Avi Loeb says the significance of the UAP Task Force report will depend on the evidence it discloses, which at the moment remains mostly unknown. “But this focus on past reports is misguided,” he says. “It would be prudent to progress forward with our finest instruments rather than examine past reports. Instead of focusing on documents that reflect decades-old technologies used by witnesses with no scientific expertise, it would be far better to deploy state-of-the-art recording devices, such as cameras or audio sensors, at the sites where the reports came from and search for unusual signals.”

Loeb goes a step further, saying he is willing to sign up to help unravel the UAP/UFO saga. “Personally, I will be glad to lead scientific inquiry into the nature of these reports and advise Congress accordingly,” he says. “This could take the form of a federally designated committee or a privately funded expedition. Its most important purpose would be to inject scientific rigor and credibility into the discussion.”

Seems to me that there is nothing now stopping us from getting to the bottom of the matter, except the Pentagon and their contractors.

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: SecretKnowledge

... I seen a metallic sphere about 6ft above my head. It had a 1cm ridge around the centre of it. Not shiny metal, like old old unpolished silver. Silent, daytime 2004...

You mean like this?

Ive seen that photo before, Poland?
Very similar in dimensions. It was spherical. That one seems to have a flat bottom. Also the ridge on your one seems to have a gap between it and the sphere. One i seen there was no gap i could see it bend off the sphere.
The sphere was about 6 inches in diameter.
When i first spotted it if i had of jumping i might have been able to touch it but i didnt.

What i seen wasnt a balloon it never deviated from the centre of the river.
It was definitely silent.
Definitely metallic.

a reply to: SecretKnowledge

Yes I believe it was from 2006 in an area near Zdany in Poland.

There are more pictures here : nautilus.org.pl...

It looks like a couple of salad bowls glued together!

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

Certainly the UFO Pandora’s Box is open and the subject has gone mainstream. Perhaps the timing of NYT’s pre-release June Report article was a way to ease the UFO Phenomenon to the general masses. It’s much better than to just drop it like a bombshell shocker on the day of the actual release of the report. Yes the mandate was out approximately 180 days ago, but people have short memories. The NYT article made it “in your face headlines” and hard to forget or avoid. That’s the bandwagon. Having the discussion leading up to the Report itself probably saved some folks, from a War of the Worlds type panic. By the discussion, statistics gauging, and public reaction itself, it is a “white paper” study in Psychology and Sociology in it of itself...that the government can add to data gathering surrounding the subject. Perhaps a positive Psyop versus a negative Psyop????

On another note......Your referenced reference “ it would be far better to deploy state-of-the-art recording devices, such as cameras or audio sensors,at the sites where the reports came from and search for unusual signals.”

This doesn’t seem likely unless you have reported proof that “lightning strikes twice”....that is to say.....a UFO sighting is known to occasionally appear around a certain area and possibly about the same time. Imo, the cost of the logistics and supplies setup isn’t worth it especially if a UFO never re-appears in the same location. The whole idea is an “after the fact” “day late dollar short” fruitless effort. I have to think UFO’s avoid repeating performances.

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: SecretKnowledge

Yes I believe it was from 2006 in an area near Zdany in Poland.

There are more pictures here : nautilus.org.pl...

It looks like a couple of salad bowls glued together!

Yes it does.

The flat bottom on it is a giveaway.

This thread has probably run it’s course until showtime of the actual report that someone here will undoubtedly post with a new thread title.

Thanks to those who have inputted with opinion ...for, against, and neutral on the pre-released details so far from the Report by the NYT.

Here is an ....in a nutshell...article that summarizes to me, where we are currently.

Today’s Teaser....

“Suddenly, senators and scientists, the Pentagon and presidents, former CIA directors and NASA officials, Wall Street executives and Silicon Valley investors are starting to talk openly about an issue that would previously be discussed only in whispers, if at all.”

'Truth embargo': UFOs are suddenly all the talk in Washington

Source: news.google.com...

Hi there,

Logically, one statement dismisses the other. If one to say 'not of earth origin' then 'alien' automatically is implied.

End of story....not! Funds are en route to build advanced skygrid to detect ufo activity and present to public intermittent reports every now and then on findings.

Folks, the government left it to us figure out. They know no better than those of us who have witnesed an undeniable. So, us just have to continue to enjoy the argument while deeply inside are aware of the truth.