Authors Lecture on the Book Aliens in the Forest - Hostile Alient Enounter in Cisco Grove, CA 1964

I had recently heard about this case on ATS. I think there have been other threads here on ATS that delve into the case, which include some interesting video links shared by karl12.

After reading a reference about this encounter in a recent thread on ATS, I did a bit of research into the case, out of curiosity. There isn't too much available in the public domain on the encounter, other than a book entitled "Aliens in the Forest", which is a retelling of the encounter by the hunter who'd experienced it, Donald Shrum. I would love to read the book, but sadly it's not available in digitized format on Google Play (though it might be available on other E-book platforms). Instead, to provide an overview of the case, I tracked down a video of a lecture given by one of the authors of the book, Noe Torres, at a conference in 2012. The talk was a presentation at the 2012 Roswell convention (I /believe/ that was the name of the conference). Of course, this is 9 years ago at this point, and despite the subpar quality of the A/V from the conference, the presentation given by Mr. Torres is fascinating and entertaining, and it includes some artwork depicting the incident, and some testimony from Mr. Shrum himself.

I don't believe this video had yet been linked on this site, or at least the site search didn't yield any hits on it for me, so wanted to share it.

The TL;DR of the case is that during a 1964 hunting expedition near Cisco Grove, California, a member of the hunting party was separated from the group, became lost. The hunter witnessed a bizarre craft approach his camp site, and subsequently was confronted by 2 "humanoid" beings and 2 "robotic" beings that used some type of noxious gas to attempt to subdue the hunter, who had climbed into a tree to evade the strange creatures.

I have some thoughts about the case, and about the witness, but will share those later in the thread.

I'm sure many members with a longer history of interest and investigative pursuit in this area have much more information and context on the case, and I'd love to read their thoughts on the Cisco Grove encounter.

South American aliens are indeed in California. Yikes!

a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

Keep delving, I'm sure you'll find more very interesting cases

The Cisco Grove case is well known, this is a good summary of it, including an interview with Donald Shrum's son:

I'll have to check those out. I'm less than an hour's drive from Cisco Grove. Thats where the local news channels send their reporters so they can stand in the snow to tell us it's snowing.

That's typically where the snow line goes down to

So, in the footage of the authors interviewing Mr. Shrum, of course it's hard to really //see// his facial expression, due to how far away the camera is from the projector screen. That said, my impression is that there is significant distress and latent bad memories that influence Mr. Shrum's recounting of the story. I'm no expert but my ears hear someone retelling a very disturbing and unsettling incident that still shakes them years after it happened. Maybe he's a really talented actor, but I don't get that impression.

The thing that does bother me, or did at first, is how long it had taken from when the incident happened (1964) until when this book and increased attention to the case came about well after the year 2000. On the surface that would be a troubling indicator to me of $eeking financial gain from a long-ago event. To counterbalance that, though, two thoughts occurred to me:

Number one he military went to great lengths to dissuade Mr. Shrum of anything unusual happening to him. I mean

(!!!!) Boy scouts?! Japanese holdouts from WW2?!?! In the woods of California?!?!?!?!?!

So basically they questioned this man's integrity and sanity. I would probably stop talking about such an incident too with the Air Force treating you in such a disgusting manner.

Number two, I am not sure I have heard a more disconcerting/creepy case as this. The account of the beings with the welding goggle eyes, and the robot with fire eyes (!!) honing in on his position and tracking him down through the forest is the stuff of nightmares. I can understand trying to bury/forget this ever happened to not introduce emotional upheaval into your life.

The treatment of Mr. Shrum really REALLY bothers me. I know this was standard practice back then, but maybe now people can understand the distrust and cynicism that people today have when the Pentagon comes out with their soft disclosure dog and pony show. Somewhere someone made a call to feed Mr. Shrum horse#hit in an attempt to keep him quiet; not enough bad things can happen to that person in my opinion.