Truth about the RFID chip and vaccines

I just wonder what would happen if thw people who can stick a magnet to their arm can go into an MRI?

originally posted by: pheonix358

How about a much smaller chip running via quantum physics or some other part of physics that we are only now seeing because, well, it was classified.

Why bother when they can just track your 'phone?

originally posted by: cre8chaos
I just wonder what would happen if thw people who can stick a magnet to their arm can go into an MRI?

Or if they took a shower. Might not be able to stick the magnet any more.

As far as I know, the only code for the vaccine is the lot number, which is associated with an patient.

A lot number is at least 10 injections, and probably many more.
As far as hiding some sort of injection chip process in the injector, the injector is (at least in this country) disposable and discarded after each use.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Well first, great post.

RFID chips are actually great. You can install them in your kids when they are babies and then register your kids as dogs and then you can always know where your kids are using the dog app....


I have some questions to your post.

1. How do you know that "they" haven't engineered a new type of chip at the nano level?
2. 5g seems like a great new way to provide all the power needed.
3. Do magnets effect chips much like they do hard drives or other electronics? I talked about getting two MRIs last week and I'm just curious if that would basally kill everything off.

Cheers

This is tremendous thread Redneck, kudos for bringing so much info into a single point and dispelling some misconceptions about RFID tech.

The only thing I want to humbly point out is that what I think you've mainly focused on are so-called "active" RFID chips that have their own PSU, circuitry and transponder/transmitter. They broadcast information independently, and are self-contained miniature computers.

Wanted to mention there are also things called "passive" RFID tags that don't have their own power source or transmitter or really any complex hardware. They operate solely based on EM waves transmitted by a separate (from the RFID tag) device, that, when they deflect off the RFID tag, result in a unique identifier frequency "signature" bouncing back to the transmitter device, which detects the unique "signature" and can decode who/what was detected (cross referencing the signature against a database, just like you described).

This is a something that I know many in the retail industry had been piloting and pondering about rolling out for some time for an automated "register sales" type of process where your items are scanned and added to your transaction /as your leave the store/ with no interaction with a checkout aisle needed, but now, if nobody really GOES anyplace to buy anything, it has less limited application in retail settings. BUT there are many other areas where a "passive" RFID tag can be incredibly useful (loss prevention in retail is still big, security, recreation/gaming). The RFID tags are very inexpensive, efficient and reliable because they have really nothing inside that can malfunction, from a digital computing perspective.

No idea which type of RFID component ("active" or "passive") would be more appealing to bad actors that actually have malicious intentions for their use, if such designs have actually been made yet (which I am not convinced of TBH).

Anyhow, great post.

If y’all really want to go down the rabbit hole…

Remember when the FDA approved the Applied Digital Solutions subcutaneously implantable device marketed as the Verichip which partnered with HealthLink software? Has anyone else been keeping track of what happened to this company or product after all of the consumer backlash?

Applied Technologies sold off the X-Mark suite of products to The Stanley Works. X-Mark managed all of the external RFID tracking products - this was the profitable side of the company. Applied Technologies CEO Silverman took a hiatus, the company liquidated because the remaining Verichip product wasn’t selling …Silverman came back and bought up all the surplus stock and relaunched the company as PositiveID Corp. He hired a PR company and attempted to rebrand the Verichip and HealthLink products…as Verimed HealthLink but product sales still lagged. They even attempted a partnership with Microsoft. The public still wasn’t receptive to the idea of a subcutaneous chip being implanted.

Company switched corporate branding to PSID. Next thing PositiveID Corp (aka PSID) starts buying up companies. Initially the only revenue stream for this company was from an unrelated product - $250k per month from nationalcreditreport.com sales. The company also raised money by selling stock (raised 6 million total). PSID then started acquiring other companies. PSID purchased Microfluid Systems on 6/3/2011. Microfluid Systems specialized in biological testing for healthcare and homeland security. PSID also purchased Thermodynamics Inc (contactless thermometers). One source I read noted that Microfluid Systems got awarded significant government contracts (45 million) and that they were doing work for DARPA. Check Www.PSIDCorp.com for more info about the company.

Side note: There is also a relationship between Verichip and Jamm Technologies. Articles show that the subcutaneous medical device tracking portion of Verichip was purchased by VeriteQ, which was purchased by Vaisala / Jamm Technologies.

Interesting to see what these companies are doing with the technology these days.



a reply to: TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Ill preface my post by stating clearly that I believe information (in general) is essentially weaponized from many angles. And the magnet thing may be a perfect example of that.

Ive also put quite a few RFID chips in quite a few dogs There can be some issues with migration after injection, but overall, its a pretty fool-proof process as long as one is familiar with using a syringe/needle. Those chips, in particular, arent that tiny though.

But.. There is so, so much strange stuff that insinuates its not that far removed from being a distinct possibility.

First, we have the idea that RFID isnt really the tech they would be looking at for tracking this sort of thing. I suspect quantum dots would be a much more likely scenario.

When we start including initiatives like ID2020 and looking at the folks involved as well as how they have been involved with everything from Event 201 to the pandemic in general (and vaccines specifically).. I cant blame anyone for proposing that these vaccines, specifically, include the very tech they have been talking about in exactly these contexts.

Im really not convinced that they do here and now, but it certainly appears that is the direction it is heading.

Researchers Have Made Self-Assembling DNA Nanobots With Encoded Structural Plans.

DNA nanobots are microscopic structures that assemble themselves from DNA components. Recent research in DNA nanotechnology has brought self-assembling nanorobots a step closer to reality, but getting them to build into large objects is still challenging. Although, UNSW researchers, with colleagues in the UK, have figured out a piece of the puzzle and are a step closer to controlling self-assembling DNA nanobots’ dimensions.

Nanobots can already build themselves on a tiny scale, and scientists can program pre-made ones to do minimal and straightforward tasks. Medical researchers have used them to deliver drugs to cancer cells or position small electrical components.

Above article, links to this article : Phys.Org : DNA nanobots build themselves: How can we help them grow the right way?

Medical researchers are already able to build nano-scale robots that can be programmed to do very small tasks, like position tiny electrical components or deliver drugs to cancer cells.

We can see what they say they're working-on, and we are left to wonder how far ahead the cutting-edge may really be ?

NCBI : Micro-/Nanorobots Propelled by Oscillating Magnetic Fields.

Recent strides in micro- and nanomanufacturing technologies have sparked the development of micro-/nanorobots with enhanced power and functionality. Due to the advantages of on-demand motion control, long lifetime, and great biocompatibility, magnetic propelled micro-/nanorobots have exhibited considerable promise in the fields of drug delivery, biosensing, bioimaging, and environmental remediation. The magnetic fields which provide energy for propulsion can be categorized into rotating and oscillating magnetic fields. In this review, recent developments in oscillating magnetic propelled micro-/nanorobot fabrication techniques (such as electrodeposition, self-assembly, electron beam evaporation, and three-dimensional (3D) direct laser writing) are summarized. The motion mechanism of oscillating magnetic propelled micro-/nanorobots are also discussed, including wagging propulsion, surface walker propulsion, and scallop propulsion. With continuous innovation, micro-/nanorobots can become a promising candidate for future applications in the biomedical field. As a step toward designing and building such micro-/nanorobots, several types of common fabrication techniques are briefly introduced. Then, we focus on three propulsion mechanisms of micro-/nanorobots in oscillation magnetic fields: (1) wagging propulsion; (2) surface walker; and (3) scallop propulsion. Finally, a summary table is provided to compare the abilities of different micro-/nanorobots driven by oscillating magnetic fields.

It's not in those particular links, but self-propelling and self-assembling, pre-programmed nanobots are usually made of nickel and/or titanium, ( both ferromagnetic, especially if used with gold micro-filaments. )
They say we're not quite there to produce on a mass-scale yet, but remember reading that they already were testing self-propelled nickel nanobots, in Ray Kurzweils 2004 book : "Fantastic Voyage" (Pub : Plume. )
Are we to believe that they haven't advanced that field in 17 years, as compared to how other techs have involved ?

a reply to: TheRedneck

Good thread!

Here's a page undetermined by myself as fruitful or fiction at this point.

It's got some sourced references I haven't looked at yet.

ymmv

Likewise, my dogs have chips but haven't tried sticking a magnet to em bc not too long ago we erased cassettes using a magnet thing. Wouldn't a magnet erase RFID info?

originally posted by: TheRedneck

As I have not had the vaccination (and have no intention to), I will ask others: is there a record showing which syringe is being used? Or do they simply pull out a syringe, fill it with vaccine, toss it in the waste, and move on?

My (AstraZeneca) vaccine was administered by inserting a syringe into a vial (which I think contained 10 doses). The fellow accidentally bumped the end of the needle against his coat, so he chucked the syringe into a bin, grabbed another and started again.

a reply to: Buvvy

Actually, the smallest RFID devices I know of are 50 microns. That's what I used as a baseline to compare to the needle size. At that scale, the chip would be only slightly smaller than the largest needles used, and thus would cause a problem with injection flow.

We have advanced RFID. but there are certain physical limits that cannot be ignored. We already work in tolerances of a few atoms. We already count dopant levels in atoms per cubic mm. Our technology is to the point that the mathematics becomes theoretical until we can figure a way to assemble what we design.

And still, an RFID chip would barely fit through a vaccine needle.

I personally know of one person, a physicist, who has been trying for years to make MOSFET transistors smaller (cutting-edge university research). I've seen his work with my own eyes, and it is quite impressive! Physics simply keeps getting in the way.

TheRedneck

a reply to: stormbringercompanion

Chips could be programmed to the individual after injection.

Possible, yes. But that would require the RFID chip to have the capability of accepting new programming. To do this would require much more power than what could be provided by a wireless EM power source. It would also require much more computing ability, which would make the chip larger.

And finally, it could not be done stealthily. A person with such a programmable RFID chip would know, without any doubt, that someone was programming a chip in them. The range for wireless transmission is at most a few centimeters, especially when transmitting information through an abbreviated antenna design.

TheRedneck

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Or perhaps the need to wear a mask after vaccination is because it takes weeks to produce immunity? It's not instant, you know.

Then why not say "people who have been vaccinated can remove their masks safely after two weeks"? That's not what is being said... what is being said is that a vaccination does not negate the need to wear a mask. Period. No time limit involved.

I have found that it is highly dangerous to give government the benefit of the doubt, especially when said doubt is predicated upon what they purposely avoid saying.

TheRedneck

a reply to: cre8chaos

I just wonder what would happen if thw people who can stick a magnet to their arm can go into an MRI?

An MRI produces about 1.5 Teslas of magnetic flux density in air (relative permeability of 1). Under that amount of flux, anything that would create a noticeable pull from a small neodymium magnet would literally be ripped out of the body within a fraction of a second in an MRI machine. One's arm would literally disintegrate.

Anything ferromagnetic exposed to such a flux density would try to achieve 7500 or more Teslas of flux density, which means it would completely saturate immediately. An MRI can rip ferromagnetic objects out of a person's body that cannot be detected via the techniques being used to "substantiate" these claims; anything large enough to be detected that way would be easily fatal in an MRI field.

A swallowed small steel ball the size of a BB would leave an exit trail just as if it were fired from a high-powered rifle inside the stomach.

TheRedneck

a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

Actually, no, I am referencing passive RFID chips. They are powered by external EM fields produced by the reader.

Everything electrical has a power supply of some kind; in this case it is just an antenna, rectifier, and capacitor. The difference is that passive devices do not have a power source contained within them, while active devices have a self-contained power source.

I think you are confusing a supply with a source. They are not the same.

TheRedneck

a reply to: Serdgiam

First, we have the idea that RFID isnt really the tech they would be looking at for tracking this sort of thing. I suspect quantum dots would be a much more likely scenario.

Actually, I believe RFID is exactly the kind of tech that would be needed for tracking.

Here's how it works: say you have an RFID chip implanted. You walk into a store, say Walmart. To do so, you must pass through the entrance. The entrance channels you through a narrow area where a special reader activates your RFID chip and reads it. Now Walmart knows person 3478302A748 has entered their store. Walmart's reader sends a request to the national database for more information. That database identifies you as Mr. John Q. Serdgiam. Walmart's request then goes to your bank, which reports back some standard information on your credit rating and available funds.

At the same time, Walmart has requested information on your purchases, so your bank also sends a list of recent charges made to your account. Your medical records are also accessed through another database, as well as your tax records and any information from law enforcement.

That information is then sent back to Walmart. If it indicates you have been arrested for shoplifting, Walmart may simply lock the doors before you go through into the store and alert security. If Walmart deems you have insufficient credit and resources to pass their requirements, the same thing can happen. All of this happens within less than a single second so you never really notice what all has gone on behind the scenes.

Let's say you do get in and you shop around and find some ground beef on sale. Walmart's computer has information that your doctor has told you to avoid red meat; when you try to check out, the sale may be rejected. it's all up to Walmart. Now let's say you do buy the meat because Walmart doesn't care what your doctor says. Two weeks later you go to your doctor and your RFID chip is again checked. This time the doctor wants to know about insurance status, so the request goes to the national database, then to your insurance company, and back with all of your information. But your doctor wants to know what you have been buying, so he also receives word that you bought 10 pounds of ground beef! Now you are in the room, the doctor walks in, and he knows you are not following the diet he prescribed.

In short, every purchase, every transaction, every entry into a store can be verified, recorded, and disseminated in the blink of an eye, simply using that one unique identifier and a network of databases which already exist.

Now compare that to quantum dots as in the article you linked. They do not contain a unique identifier to your identity, only a record that the person who has these dots has received this vaccination but not that vaccination. There is no way one could be denied entry to a store or verified that they made a certain purchase... all one would know frorm examining the dots is that this person has had the following vaccinations. There could be a million people who have had the same vaccinations you have had; which person out of that million is this?

But that identification number... that's yours and yours alone. No one else has it.

TheRedneck

a reply to: loveguy

A magnet will erase any data stored on magnetic media... that includes hard drives, floppy drives, cassette tapes, even old 8-track tapes. It will not erase information stored in non-magnetic media, such as flash drives or memory.

So no, a magnet will not affect an RFID chip.

TheRedneck

a reply to: pheonix358

As a RN who gives vaccines I can safely say there is nothing special with the syringe. It's the same syringe for giving many medications.

Verichip subcutaneously implantable RFIDs have been tested in a MRI. There was a white paper published on www.rfidjournal.com titled “MRI and RFID Human Implants” by James Lamberg, University of Minnesota Twin Cities.

Movement of the device was minimal (did not rip out of the patient at 1.5 Tesla or less). The study noted that a patient might detect a slight sensation of tugging but device placement was not disturbed. Heat was not an issue.

Out of all of the Verichip implants that were tested one did fail to scan following the MRI.

The Verichip was designed to last 20 years…so there is a warning that says that an MRI might damage a Verichip making it unreadable.

The RFID chips in linens and hospital gowns are MRI compatible. Example Datamars UHF LaundryChip family is suitable for use in MRI equipment.


a reply to: TheRedneck