Palestinian/Israeli conflict is a political cudgel

a reply to: visitedbythem

Well, I would disagree, the Jews are no longer Gods chosen
I can see nothing in the NT and new covenant to suggest that
Jesus called everyone, not just the Jews

They were chosen, they failed, Jesus called in everyone, including the Palestinian christian church
www.palestineportal.org...

It seems you are looking at the world through Old Testament eyes

a reply to: Raggedyman

Both old and new testament disagree with you. The Churches job is almost complete. There will be more Gentiles that accept Christ in the tribulation. Israel has another job in the future. Evangelism for the Yeshua Hamashiach . Israel is the focal point in the Tribulation. While under attack, the population will dwindle down to only a remnant. All will be saved at that point. There is your 144,000. When they dwindle down to that number, God comes down to fight in a supernatural way. Instant destruction to the enemies.

Do you really have a Bible you could read? I dont understand where you come up with these ideas. I even double check the Bible for errors by translating directly from the Dead Sea scrolls into English. I find translation errors often. I think some were intentional. Use Strongs concordance to translate from both Hebrew and Greek.

You can also use the program E-Sword online for free. It has Strongs incorporated into it for easy use.
I sometimes find things I dont like, but I would always rather know the truth.

Thanks for your reply and good luck with your quest

I am like you. I spent my life looking at both sides and changing sides as I progressed, but only since the 70's so that's really just recently in the grand scheme of things. The ancient writings says Jacob was the chosen one between the illegitimate Ismael and later given the entire blessing, while Ismael was blessed as well. If you believe the bible, then what is there to debate? NOTHING! Either God revealed himself through Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, who became Israel; or, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, AP: Al Jazeera et al... are the holy saviors of truth. I take the bible over that nonsense. To me, it's obvious where the world is headed, and that is exactly where the book of Revelation says it is. THE WHOLE WORLD COMES AGAINST ISRAEL, AND ARE DEFEATED TO THE GLORY OF GOD AND THE CHRIST. Choose wisely, this is already foretold by God.