Polyfluoroalkyl substances might have already soft killed the human race and others

The implications of the data within this article are so disturbing for the future of humankind I don't want to consider the ramifications to public health and our continued survival in the long term. It is about a plastic that we might see last longer than the human race.

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a reply to: machineintelligence

If you are a veteran you might have seen ads for compensation for exposure to this chemical in the form of fire fighting foam. I grew up around air force bases and was certainly exposed to quantities of this chemical from that exposure. The broader concern of course is that this is used everywhere for generations now so a 100% exposure rate is now detected in breast milk. I think this would qualify for a rating of dire.

Thank you for the awareness. The body is an incredible machine and it can take quite a bit. Most you can do is keep the good coming in to the body because the junk food and sodas and crap just compounds the problem.

Honestly at this point, you do what you can, eat as healthy as you can, and get a water filtration system for at least your kitchen sink.

That helps tremendously.

These companies should be cancelled if anything.

a reply to: machineintelligence

The linked article says it is used in Scotchguard. That is a spray on coating that is applied to carpet to keep liquid stains from penetrating the fibers of carpet. I used to work in the carpet industry and most carpet, except for the cheapest, has it put on.

That means if you have carpet in your house, every time you vacuum, you are putting microscopic particles in the air for you to breath in.

Just another toxic chemical commonly found in the modern home.

Yes, these chemicals need to be banned but it might already be too late.

a reply to: machineintelligence

It's not just limited to fire fighting foam. These are called "forever chemicals", and they don't go away...ever.

It's not just limited to ScotchGuard either. Ever used a teflon pan?? There are like 4,700+ variants of these chemicals, and they're in all sorts of things.

Your post is timely. Just recently there was a resurgence of a film which was originally released in 2019 called 'Dark Waters' which covers the topic. And, you can read more about the substance Here

Meh, those of us that can survive the onslaught of these chemicals will be fine.

The rest of you? Sorry bro's, you're getting the Darwin treatment.

Strong live, weak die.

Sorry weak, tough luck.

a reply to: machineintelligence

I'm starting to get the idea that the reporting of bad news is
going to be the end of humanity.

It never ends. The bad news is insurmountable.

It's also ironic, polyfluroalkyl substances, also known as perfluroakyl are very closely related to another substance called perfluorocarbons which currently hold one of the most promising medical advancements in the history of medicine.

And, you've seen one in action too! How many people have seen the 1989 movie... 'The Abyss'... with Ed Harris and Mary Mastrantonio? In the movie there is a scene where one of the characters takes a pet rat from its owner and submerges it into a fluid where it will seemingly drown, but it doesn't. That fluid was an oxygenated perfluorocarbon...and the scene was filmed in REAL life! And the rat actually survived.

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a reply to: machineintelligence

Let's leave the doom porn to the Liberal.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Normally I agree with you, but you might want to look into this stuff a little bit.

Because many of these substances were non-toxic and basically inert they were never regulated by any agency. Nobody thought anything about them. But they are incorporated into all kinds of stuff.

I'm not normally a doom porn-er, or a 'greeny' type at all, but after doing some research on this stuff it kind of got my attention.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
It's also ironic, polyfluroalkyl substances, also known as perfluroakyl are very closely related to another substance called perfluorocarbons which currently hold one of the most promising medical advancements in the history of medicine.

And, you've seen one in action too! How many people have seen the 1989 movie... 'The Abyss'... with Ed Harris and Mary Mastrantonio? In the movie there is a scene where one of the characters takes a pet rat from its owner and submerges it into a fluid where it will seemingly drown, but it doesn't. That fluid was an oxygenated perfluorocarbon...and the scene was filmed in REAL life! And the rat actually survived.

I had no idea that was real. That’s crazy.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
It's also ironic, polyfluroalkyl substances, also known as perfluroakyl are very closely related to another substance called perfluorocarbons which currently hold one of the most promising medical advancements in the history of medicine.

And, you've seen one in action too! How many people have seen the 1989 movie... 'The Abyss'... with Ed Harris and Mary Mastrantonio? In the movie there is a scene where one of the characters takes a pet rat from its owner and submerges it into a fluid where it will seemingly drown, but it doesn't. That fluid was an oxygenated perfluorocarbon...and the scene was filmed in REAL life! And the rat actually survived.

It's all about balance and it is a slow learning process, collectively I'm not a greenie either, hell we used to have x-ray shoe-fitting fluoroscopes in stores throughout the US and other civilized countries. You know zapping kids with radiation so they got the proper size Converse All-Stars. Hell last time I had my neck x-rayed, I had a lead blanket over the rest of me.

I always wondered about that scene...that's pretty cool never knew that

originally posted by: Archivalist
Meh, those of us that can survive the onslaught of these chemicals will be fine.

The rest of you? Sorry bro's, you're getting the Darwin treatment.

Strong live, weak die.

Sorry weak, tough luck.

That’s not how Darwinism works, anyway how would you like it if your child got cancer that was linked to exposure to these chemicals?

originally posted by: surfer_soul

originally posted by: Archivalist
Meh, those of us that can survive the onslaught of these chemicals will be fine.

The rest of you? Sorry bro's, you're getting the Darwin treatment.

Strong live, weak die.

Sorry weak, tough luck.

That’s not how Darwinism works, anyway how would you like it if your child got cancer that was linked to exposure to these chemicals?

Yes, that IS how Darwinism works. And it sucks that innocents are disabled and murdered by these and many, many other chemicals. Not to mention how difficult it is to actually nail a chemical as bad in order to have it banned and producers penalized. And then there are those who not only don't care, they enable the continued use of these chemicals by purchasing products that contain these chemicals furthering the production of them. It's a vicious cycle that has only increased in coverage over the last 60 years or so with absolutely no slowing what so ever. A few articles here and there so some of the conscious can make better decisions but the rest of the world is pretty much....meh, whateva.

Unless a person is willing to grow all non gmo foods themselves, live off the grid in natural habitats and drink distilled water or non contaminated mountain run off, (which I am assuming 99.9% of the population WON'T) you WILL be exposed to bad chemicals in one form or another. We make our choices, take our chances and hopefully survive the bombardment of a toxic environment.

I just looked it up and found i have been exposed to polyfluroalkyl substances, in the form of AFFF firefighting foam for many years. The first time in navy advanced firefighting school and then during a major shipboard fire where we used around 50 gal to put out the engine room fire.

Every fire department i worked on used AFFF on fuel fires and to safe guard fuel spills from starting on fire.

I carried pressurized water fire extinguishers with AFFF foam in the back of my truck for many years just in case.

I mean... is there any solution besides off-grid living away from society with your own clean sources of food and water?? It's at the point where toxins are unavoidable in our society.

If you want to detox, a water fast has proven to be very effective. Drink clean water and eat no food for an extended period of time and it allows your body to focus on cleansing and detox.

Despite the evidence, nothing of substance will be done. Humans are so dumb!

I’ve said it before, the reason we’ve not been contacted by aliens is that they’ve put a cordon around the solar to keep us in. No way are they letting us contaminate the galaxy until we can look after our own back yard.

a reply to: StoutBroux

Darwinism is about finding a niche and adapting to the environment, being fit and strong is an added benefit, but the majority of life doesn’t rely on brute strength to survive. The poster I replied to made it sound like only the weak would succumb to these chemicals.

It's to be expected that inert substance is persistent in the environment. Just like plastic. Or sand. Silicon oxide is persistent too. Although soil bacteria can make it available to plants. You dont want silicon in your lungs. Fiber glass or asbestos are the least desired forms. Sand on the beach is ok.
As long as it's not messing with hormones, fertility or something like growing of neuronal synapses in the brain there's no doom. I wanna know what caused the rats to die and if it's dose-dependent.