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originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: Thenail
Well where are they ? Fauci said he funded Dr. Barics research. Dr. Baric has worked with Dr Zhengli from the wuhan lab for years . They worked on gain of function experiments. That’s what they did . Fauci specifically gave Barics a boatload of money for research according to Fauci himself. Barics does gain of function experiments with Zhengli in wuhan . Are you saying he’s lying? Seems like They’re all responsible. But Fauci seems to be the main player , the most motive . He deserves to be found guilty of committing crimes against humanity if you ask me . So it’s all ok and aboveboard with you?
Who is "they"?
Provide a shred of proof for the rest of it. Just one piece of evidence.
Affiliations
Department of Epidemiology, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA
Vineet D Menachery, Boyd L Yount Jr, Kari Debbink, Lisa E Gralinski, Jessica A Plante, Rachel L Graham, Trevor Scobey, Eric F Donaldson & Ralph S Baric
Department of Microbiology and Immunology, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA
Kari Debbink & Ralph S Baric
National Center for Toxicological Research, Food and Drug Administration, Jefferson, Arkansas, USA
Sudhakar Agnihothram
Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China
Xing-Yi Ge & Zhengli-Li Shi
Department of Cell Biology and Physiology, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA
Scott H Randell
Cystic Fibrosis Center, Marsico Lung Institute, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA
Scott H Randell
Institute for Research in Biomedicine, Bellinzona Institute of Microbiology, Zurich, Switzerland
Antonio Lanzavecchia
Department of Cancer Immunology and AIDS, Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Wayne A Marasco
Department of Medicine, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Wayne A Marasco
Contributions
V.D.M. designed, coordinated and performed experiments, completed analysis and wrote the manuscript. B.L.Y. designed the infectious clone and recovered chimeric viruses; S.A. completed neutralization assays; L.E.G. helped perform mouse experiments; T.S. and J.A.P. completed mouse experiments and plaque assays; X.-Y.G. performed pseudotyping experiments; K.D. generated structural figures and predictions; E.F.D. generated phylogenetic analysis; R.L.G. completed RNA analysis; S.H.R. provided primary HAE cultures; A.L. and W.A.M. provided critical monoclonal antibody reagents; and Z.-L.S. provided SHC014 spike sequences and plasmids. R.S.B. designed experiments and wrote manuscript.
originally posted by: MiddleInsite
You say Rand Paul has proof. If Rand Paul has proof, why not show it? Why not put an end to the speculation? By the way, Fauci wiped the floor with Rand.
You guys hype things so much, that when the real story comes out, you look like fools. Like the Durham report or the recount in Arizona. What's taking so long to do the recount or the Durham probe? My guess, once again, a nothing burger.
Benghazi, Hillary's email, Obama's birth certificate, pizza pedophile rings, Hunter Biden conspiracies, voter fraud. And what have you got, NOTHING. You lost the House and Senate AND the Presidency. How much good will getting the House and Senate back be, if Biden can veto, and the Congress can't get 2/3 override? Republicans love the subpoena power though. So we will get more expensive nothing burger investigations.
originally posted by: LordAhriman
I generally like Rand, but... he looked like the dumbass here. He was spouting speculation, and Fauci was trying to hold back laughter.
originally posted by: MiddleInsite
You say Rand Paul has proof. If Rand Paul has proof, why not show it? Why not put an end to the speculation? By the way, Fauci wiped the floor with Rand.
You guys hype things so much, that when the real story comes out, you look like fools. Like the Durham report or the recount in Arizona. What's taking so long to do the recount or the Durham probe? My guess, once again, a nothing burger.
Benghazi, Hillary's email, Obama's birth certificate, pizza pedophile rings, Hunter Biden conspiracies, voter fraud. And what have you got, NOTHING. You lost the House and Senate AND the Presidency. How much good will getting the House and Senate back be, if Biden can veto, and the Congress can't get 2/3 override? Republicans love the subpoena power though. So we will get more expensive nothing burger investigations.
originally posted by: TheAiIsLying
I had my accountant find and pay for a hitman to kill my wife, therefore I'm not responsible for her murder.
That should sum up the mentality nicely.
originally posted by: LordAhriman
I generally like Rand, but... he looked like the dumbass here. He was spouting speculation, and Fauci was trying to hold back laughter.
originally posted by: SouthernForkway26
a reply to: sunkuong
I'm pretty sure Obama was president when GoF research was banned in America in 2014.
originally posted by: Gothmog
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: myselfaswell
a reply to: LordAhriman
Do we fund China's gain of function research or help them create super bugs? No.
Actually ...... you do.
The US Government through various bodies gives money to EcoHealth Alliance based in NY. EcoHealth Alliance fund coronavirus research in Wuhan. It's not yet clear why that's difficult to understand.
Fauci knows this. He should be on trial for crimes against humanity.
And when he is found guilty, he should face a firing squad.
Nope.
99 years +1 day for each person , world-wide , that has died.
And , if guilty , add to that Joe Biden and Barack Obama .
Aiding and abetting the enemy in causing each death .
End Rant .
originally posted by: Dae
a reply to: 2Faced
Yes this! I had the same thing! I went and told the family, "Fauchi did not have sexual relations with that virus!" haha
Just a word to some people on ATS, this is not a right wing conspiracy plot. I heard about this first via UK alternative news and then I saw Rand Paul do his thang. Facts are facts regardless of political leanings.
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
I seem to have stumbled into a pit of desperate nonsense-laced woo in this thread, based on few actual facts. This thread is both worrying in terms of what people apparently believe and amusing.