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As a matter of comparison: There are 20 to 30 deaths reported every year to VAERS related to the flu shot. That’s with 195 million receiving flu shots. Compare that to the COVID shot, which resulted in 2,602 reported deaths through 77 million vaccinations.
That’s a stunningly high ratio of deaths to vaccinations, the highest for any vaccine in U.S. history, and yet no major media outlet has launched an investigation.
A typical new drug at about five deaths, unexplained deaths, we get a black-box warning, your listeners would see it on TV, saying it may cause death,” McCullough said. “And then at about 50 deaths it’s pulled off the market.
originally posted by: BrokenCircles
Joe would crush her in a debate/argument.
Joe says, "Healthy 21 year olds who exercise and eat well don't need the vaccine." Then she somehow leaps to the notion that Joe may be referring to this old lady as being the healthy 21 year old... Huh?
Then her 'proof' that Joe is wrong, is "One study shows that 20-49 year olds were responsible for more than 70% of the spread of Covid-19 last year. That has nothing to do with what he said.
I don't know why I watched 2 full minutes of that vid, or why I typed any of this, but I can't watch any more. She's a moron.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
My son 21 had to get the vaccine for college,
and HE ALREADY HAD COVID.
Saying this we know for older higher risk this can get serious quickly, so yes even if 2000 people have died to the vaccine they should still get it.
originally posted by: tanstaafl
Tell that to the ones that died - and their families.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: tanstaafl
"Tell that to the ones that died - and their families."
Oh God...sounds so much like the "you want to kill grandma!" stupid statement...lol
It was just my opinion, but you tell me... you are old with preexisting conditions and COVID is basically either hardly nothing or you die or very well close to death, so what do you do? Close to 600,000 is a much bigger number than 2000, and are we even sure the 2000 is really true?
originally posted by: 111DPKING111
65 and up the vaccine makes.
Several people in the 50 to 60 bracket got it in my office, no hospital, just took a few vitamins. None of them were particularly healthy either.
The 2000(its 4000 now) deaths is passive reporting, the EU database is showing 2x as many deaths with half the vaccinations we have done. Their system is also passive, but if ours was as good, we would be showing 16,000 deaths. I wouldnt take them off the market, but personally I would stick with the alternatives - c19ivermectin.... WIth all the censoring, most people dont know there are good alternatives.
originally posted by: tanstaafl
If you can't tell the difference between people that actually died from the vaccines, and a vague accusation that you'll be responsible for murdering grandma because you didn't jab yourself with some experimental gene therapy - then, well, I guess one would just be wasting time trying to discuss something rationally with you.
Yeah, well, we're probably a lot more sure that the 600,000 number isn't true, and the 2,000 number is likely much higher.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
I'm not the one making the vaccine into a bogyman as the science is pretty straight forward,
as far as the "kill Grandma" part...Well first it was a joke and second it is also based on personal choice and in that case of not wearing a mask. or believing a mask is all that some so called experts say it is. So the response to not wearing a mask is "you want to kill grandma" as your response to me suggesting old and ill should take the vaccine as COVID will kill them with your snide remark "ask the ones who died"...lol Same attitude in both cases.
If there was any concerns with the vaccine one would think it would be towards women and their eggs,
To have quick deaths from it doesn't really make sense if the "experimental gene therapy" is the part you are worried about.
originally posted by: tanstaafl
Not at all. The snide is all on your end. You are the one 'joked' about me wanting to kill grandma, and again, you are the one who made light of all of the people who have died from getting the gene therapy injection that hasn't had any long term safety studies (if you worship that kind of thing).
The real, true risk is the long term affects - that we know nothing of, but the concern is genuine and warranted from the evidence.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
Relax... I really don't care if Grandma dies or 2000 people out of over 100 million vaccinated,
What evidence? We have no long term yet to produce evidence...
originally posted by: tanstaafl
Yes, I knew that, but t hanks for admitting it.
The evidence of what, precisely, and mRNA injection is and does. Software for the body - software that can be programmed to do - what? I'll tell you what - anything they want, even though it will likely do it really badly and will have many yet to be determined side effects and unintended consequences, as always happens when men meddle in that which they should not.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
You said look at the evidence of long term effects, and I said what evidence since no one has had it long term... This above is just assumptions...