"Caitlyn for California" [Governor] Could be a Game Changer

That Jenner person. That's a man that is. look at his hands. You're all being took for a ride.

She is Pelosi’s worst nightmare.

Republicans supporting a Trans woman.

Why not, couldn’t get much worse here.

a reply to: EternalShadow

Okay, it won't.

It will just further degrade the standards until there are no standards which is exactly what liberals are pushing for.

So yeah, another loss.

I disagree... profoundly... hence the OP.

Actually, let me qualify that statement. I totally agree that the extreme left are doing their darnedest to degrade and even erase any morality or ethical standards of any kind. And for obvious reasons. When people cannot/do not/will not stand for something, they'll fall for anything. The extreme left seems to be counting on it.

However, Jenner is definitely standing for something, and demanding a standard of fairness and morality in direct defiance to the extreme left. At the very least, Jenner is carving a path that defies the gender ideology and Trans Activist agenda being forced on the public -- left, right, and center.

That's a good thing.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: EternalShadow

Okay, it won't.

It will just further degrade the standards until there are no standards which is exactly what liberals are pushing for.

So yeah, another loss.

I disagree... profoundly... hence the OP.

Actually, let me qualify that statement. I totally agree that the extreme left are doing their darnedest to degrade and even erase any morality or ethical standards of any kind. And for obvious reasons. When people cannot/do not/will not stand for something, they'll fall for anything. The extreme left seems to be counting on it.

However, Jenner is definitely standing for something, and demanding a standard of fairness and morality in direct defiance to the extreme left. At the very least, Jenner is carving a path that defies the gender ideology and Trans Activist agenda being forced on the public -- left, right, and center.

That's a good thing.

Why? Just because he's a transgender republican?? Are they that rare???

Gimme a break..🙄

This is the wrong direction, but that's par for the course these days unfortunately.

We should just vote on people in the insane asylum.
That would be funny.

originally posted by: EternalShadow

It will just further degrade the standards until there are no standards which is exactly what liberals are pushing for.

So yeah, another loss.

Do you honestly think there have been any standards in a long time, on either side?

It has nothing to do with liberals, or conservatives they both bow down to corruption, even our last president was a scum-bag. When I saw the list of people he released from prison, on his last day, I threw up in my own mouth. Any respect I had for Trump went right out the window, after the pardon list came out.

Kwame Kilpatrick stole hundreds of millions from the city of Detroit, it took federal investigators six months to sift through the piles and piles of bribes, kick-backs, and the sad thing is he never once show any remorse, for his crimes. 28 year sentence, commuted to 7.

And Kwame was one of the lighter releases, some people had literally 100's of years still on their sentences.

originally posted by: crayzeed
That Jenner person. That's a man that is. look at his hands. You're all being took for a ride.

You can't subvert society without idolizing the insane.

Someone that can't decide what sex they are shouldn't be in charge of policy making for everyone else.
Nor should they be a role model for children.
Disgusting and satan pilled.

a reply to: EternalShadow

Why? Just because he's a transgender republican?? Are they that rare???

Gimme a break..🙄

This is the wrong direction, but that's par for the course these days unfortunately.

You didn't even read the OP, did you? Because that's not at all what I've been saying.

It's because Jenner is a transgender identifying person who has already broken two cardinal rules/demands of the Trans Activists who are pushing the very degradation of standards that you're complaining about. If you add his Republican creds, that's three.

Jenner is in fact and in deed going in the exact direction that you seem to want, in direct opposition to the standards you are complaining about.

a reply to: EternalShadow

I don't for one second think that anyone should be elevated due to their change of gender, but by that same token, they should not be cast aside for the same. If she is a joke, laugh, it she has solid policy, listen.

uote]originally posted by: Realtruth

originally posted by: EternalShadow

It will just further degrade the standards until there are no standards which is exactly what liberals are pushing for.

So yeah, another loss.

Do you honestly think there have been any standards in a long time, on either side?

It has nothing to do with liberals, or conservatives they both bow down to corruption, even our last president was a scum-bag. When I saw the list of people he released from prison, on his last day, I threw up in my own mouth. Any respect I had for Trump went right out the window, after the pardon list came out.

Kwame Kilpatrick stole hundreds of millions from the city of Detroit, it took federal investigators six months to sift through the piles and piles of bribes, kick-backs, and the sad thing is he never once show any remorse, for his crimes. 28 year sentence, commuted to 7.

And Kwame was one of the lighter releases, some people had literally 100's of years still on their sentences.
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My response:
Then those are lessons learned or lessons repeated, that's it. We're obviously on repeat and getting comfortable with the predictable results.

My point is folks are advocating for turning the tide by electing a man who thinks he's a woman.

They should take a moment and THINK about that or at the very least consider their rationale.

Sorry, I edited my response and for some reason the post shifted positions 🤷🏾‍♂️

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: EternalShadow

I don't for one second think that anyone should be elevated due to their change of gender, but by that same token, they should not be cast aside for the same. If she is a joke, laugh, it she has solid policy, listen.

I agree. So why should we elevate mental illness as if it's completely normal, and then put those sufferers in charge??

Come on folks..geezus..

a reply to: EternalShadow

My point is your advocating for turning the tide by electing a man who thinks he's a woman.

NO ONE in this thread has advocated for electing Jenner, or advocated for turning the tide by electing Jenner.

Rather, at the least the OP in specific, is simply stating that Jenner will turn the tide by running the campaign that Jenner is running. Whether Jenner wins or not. I do think there's a good chance of winning, but it's the policies and positions being taken that are the game changer.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: EternalShadow

My point is your advocating for turning the tide by electing a man who thinks he's a woman.

NO ONE in this thread has advocated for electing Jenner, or advocated for turning the tide by electing Jenner.

Rather, at the least the OP in specific, is simply stating that Jenner will turn the tide by running the campaign that Jenner is running. Whether Jenner wins or not. I do think there's a good chance of winning, but it's the policies and positions being taken that are the game changer.

So then you're brushing that aside I see.

Gotcha.



ETA: Quick question: Are you happy with Biden, because he has some issues as well. He was "elected" to the highest office because of policies and positions while his mental capacity was and is in severe decline. No lesson learned there?🤷🏾‍♂️

originally posted by: EternalShadow

So then you're brushing that aside I see.

Gotcha.

No, actually, you don't "gotcha." I'm not brushing anything aside. I don't live in California. I cannot vote for or against Jenner if I wanted to. Nor do I have any choice in whether or not Jenner runs for office. Neither do I have any choice in what policies and positions Jenner runs on. It is what it is.

And the FACT remains that Jenner IS running (legally), these ARE Jenner's positions, Jenner DOES identify as transgender, and these positions ARE in direct opposition to the Trans Activist Agenda. To that extent, Jenner can -- and I am predicting will -- force a change on discussions and policies regarding transgender issues. Going forward, it will be impossible for Trans Activists to collectively call everyone who opposes males competing in women's sports "transphobes" and "bigots" and "haters" BECAUSE a person who does identify as transgender is saying the same thing. It will be impossible to "cancel" Jenner because Jenner has a platform and the $$ and name recognition to maintain that platform. With any luck, Jenner can literally destroy the Trans Agenda and cancel them! Whether Jenner wins or not.

That's what YOU are brushing aside.

ETA: Quick question: Are you happy with Biden...

LOL! That's just funny!!! Biden's been at the top of my #list since the Iran Contra hearings... These days, I just pity him though.

...because he has some issues as well. He was "elected" to the highest office because of policies and positions while his mental capacity was and is in severe decline. No lesson learned there?🤷🏾‍♂️

I would disagree that he was "elected" due to his policies and positions, but for the sake of this argument, that point is moot anyway. Biden's policies and positions are the status quo. Biden's campaign was not a game changer in any way. Just more of the same.

Uh, just how radical can the ticket of a pretty boring (by now) upper class woman be?

"As God is my witness, we shall pass an ordinance to never ban foie gras again"!
www.sfchronicle.com...

Well, that could actually find some constituency.

a reply to: Boadicea

Well unfortunately I do live here. I should have left years ago.

I didn't say HIS policies and positions got him "elected" just the policies and positions that were sought. He's a sock puppet, but with less brain matter.

Burdens, er.... I mean Bidens policies and positions might be status quo for you but not for me and many others.

There's nothing game changing about a Jenner win or loss. All it does is strengthen and legitimize the push for more of what you may not want.

originally posted by: EternalShadow

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: EternalShadow

My point is your advocating for turning the tide by electing a man who thinks he's a woman.

NO ONE in this thread has advocated for electing Jenner, or advocated for turning the tide by electing Jenner.

Rather, at the least the OP in specific, is simply stating that Jenner will turn the tide by running the campaign that Jenner is running. Whether Jenner wins or not. I do think there's a good chance of winning, but it's the policies and positions being taken that are the game changer.

So then you're brushing that aside I see.

Gotcha.

ETA: Quick question: Are you happy with Biden, because he has some issues as well. He was "elected" to the highest office because of policies and positions while his mental capacity was and is in severe decline. No lesson learned there?🤷🏾‍♂️

Biden wasn't elected for his policies. Biden was elected due to Trump Derangement Syndrome being screamed and shouted from the rooftops by liberals/Democrats, CNN , MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, NY Times, The Atlantic, through Google/Facebook/Twitter censorship and manipulating searches.

If Jenner is elected it will be because of his/her policies. But there will be massive Jenner Derangement Syndrome from the same people who were into TDS because they can not tolerate an LGBT who leaves the Democratic Party's plantation of ideas. Democrats clearly feel " minorities and LGBT belong to" the liberals and Democrats.

originally posted by: halfoldman
Uh, just how radical can the ticket of a pretty boring (by now) upper class woman be?

"Radical" is subjective... "boring" is subjective... but sex is not subjective. Jenner is a man who identifies as a woman. Jenner is not a woman -- upper class or otherwise.

I gave examples of two positions Jenner has taken (actually, three, if we include party) that are quite "radical" to the Trans Activist community.

"As God is my witness, we shall pass an ordinance to never ban foie gras again"!
www.sfchronicle.com...

Well, that could actually find some constituency.

Maybe, but that wasn't one cited in the OP, nor one that Jenner has taken, nor one that would be a game changer. Jenner might do many things, but the OP is specifically addressing the positions and policies that Jenner -- as a transgender candidate -- has already taken and will take (potentially) in direct opposition to the current demands/ideologies of Trans Activists.

Do you have any thoughts on how this can and will change the entire transgender rights discussion and policies?

originally posted by: EternalShadow
a reply to: Boadicea

Well unfortunately I do live here. I should have left years ago.

I didn't say HIS policies and positions got him "elected" just the policies and positions that were sought. He's a sock puppet, but with less brain matter.

Burdens, er.... I mean Bidens policies and positions might be status quo for you but not for me and many others.

There's nothing game changing about a Jenner win or loss. All it does is strengthen and legitimize the push for more of what you may not want.

Wow. I don't know where exactly the disconnect is... or how to correct it... but you are completely misunderstanding what I'm saying. I don't even know where to go with this.

So thank you for weighing in, and I wish you the best of luck out there in Cali. You all sure need some!