Freedom is dying - will you do your part?

a reply to: TonyS

Fair enough - I do see why it's easy to be pessimistic. They've been patient, ever so patient, and now as you say they have landed so much in such a short time that it's hard to see how we can possibly overcome, especially with the technocratic powers they now wield.

I guess I believe that there's always hope, and the Universe has a way of being magickal sometimes. I believe God is on the side of the meek, and that we will inherit the Earth once the cronies have been dealt with.

originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
I'd just like to add that 30 minutes after creating this OP, a gang of youths rolled up to our house, shouted a bunch of expletives, ripped our doorbell camera off the wall & dashed it to the floor. They didn't steal it, and they bolted in seconds, before I could get down there to check what had happened.

It could be a coincidence, but what was most weird was that we have a full 24hr feed from that doorbell camera which we can backtrack over to see whether a certain incident (such as a missed delivery) was just a postman being lazy, etc. But when we rolled back the footage to review, it had glitched out not after being ripped from the wall, but seconds before the group ran up to the door - it just went blank without capturing their approach. The glitch remained (grey & black boxes over the whole view) until I went outside & picked it up, at which point it started recording again.

A week ago, when I wrote a similarly angry post against the 'controllers' & the tactics they're using, I was subjected to gaslight catcalls under my open window, again within minutes of posting - several groups walking or driving past & shouting weird, cryptic comments in a loud, clear voice, laughing & threatening in content & tone.

I don't believe that I'm considered important enough to really pay any significant attention to, but now, twice in a row, when I've created OPs which are critical of the NWO elitists, I've had negative 'cartoon-ish' gaslighting, within minutes of posting - nothing too serious, but seemingly a statement of displeasure. This never happened in the past, and I'm not the kind of person who thinks they're being actively 'gang-stalked'. But two for two, someone doesn't like what I'm writing about.

Incidentally, I was 'warned' once before, by my own mother no less, a few years ago (who technically should have zero knowledge of my anonymous posting online, as I never discuss conspiracy stuff or ATS with anyone in my family, and I left home twenty years ago) - that I had to stop posting on 'weird' websites, because it simply isn't cricket, kind of thing - and that people were watching.

What the heck is going on? They pretty much lay it out for all to see - there's probably going to be a crackdown on sharing independent thought online in the next five years max, I suspect much sooner than that.

Speak truth. That is all.

Wow that is really crazy stuff. I believe you. The only explanation I have to that, is that the devil and hells angels are involved. I have experienced the same things happening to you. They have the power and knowledge to pull off weird crud like that. Our government doesn't. At least not just by themselves and technology available, even top secret electronics can't do all that.
I'm serious about that. It's happened to me in the past. eta: Have you experienced any kind of telepathy when these gangs of people are close by?

Look I know that sounds way out there to the average person, but evil people are controlled and used by the devil to do these things in many cases just like what you describe. There is no way conventional explanations can account for what you are experiencing.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Thanks for having your eyes wide open, having the soul of a true patriot and the personal integrity to take a stand but you are barking up the wrong tree trying to awake/ encourage anonymous keyboard warriors who lets face it are all show no go.

I've said it many times in many threads but i will once again say it directly to you......

The starting point is simple but the majority is too self absorbed in the materialistic gains the system offers disguised as the proceeds of freedom - ie homes, cars, medical, trade, money etc.....and that said majority is far to deep in debt to possess these proceeds of so called freedom that they do not dare deviate from the set path for selfish fear of losing the lot.

All we need to do once again is - pick a place in the country that is open enough to accommodate near enough every last soul and accumulate there.....refuse to work or return home until every last politician who takes a salary at tax payers expence has removed themselves from position permanently.

That's it it's very very very simple....the military who if in fact are protectors of freedom as sworn should be there side by side with the masses......with no taxes coming in, with no military to enforce martial law then the peoples demands would be met in a heartbeat.

The masses have there legitimate on the spot votes to send new heads to take up vacated positions and the military then return to work........All problems fixed and all conspiracies ended and dealt with.

The most important thing in life is the state of world we leave to our children, this action would be worldwide news and would start a worldwide movement which would be the great reset but on our terms and with the best results for humanities future.

Irony is those who would be fearful due to loosing jobs, homes, cars, businesses through debt as the movement would take months to enact would eventually after the fact loose nothing - noone would as there simply wouldn't be a system in place post movement to take it from you.

The great reset on our terms would be just that, a reset, all debt disovled and start afresh with what you already had....

All we have to do is gather as one.......how simple could it be.

Guarantee the first couple dozen organisers get suicided as the system does everything to stop the organization of the masses but once the people start gathering in their millions they will not be able to stop it.

This is the only way and anything else is controllable to the system one way or the other.

They can only stop such a movement in its infancy with the military but i think the military will follow their family and fellow human beings to a new world and not support the system of oppression once they see we are serious and are actually amassing as one pissed of country of citizens about to make history and raise the frequency of humanity as a side effect.....

Any other movement will be fruitless on the scales of balance.

originally posted by: Hoser793
F*d up.

I reckon we all find out.

Soon.

Lock and Load ...

Who are you "lockin and loadin" for. You gonna shoot someone?

a reply to: Hoser793

Oh, I agree. Many of the US population can see through the leftist bs. Problem is.......they cant really do anything about it.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

I totally agree and I would go one further. In the final analysis, God WILL deal with the crooks.

originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
a reply to: Randyvine

You've got me wondering - which promise do you refer to?

Is it: "You shall be like God..." ...?

Well done in deed.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

I guess I am amused (not necessarily laughing) because the future never turns out like anyone ever expects it too. And it amuses me that some people believe that they can somehow stop the future from happening. No one can stop many of the major elements of the Globalist plan from happening for the plain and simple reason that for the first time in the History of Humankind, the technology exists to implement a total surveillance and control "state". That same technology enables technological control of election results. And it enables things such as CoVID and health passports.

I could go on but there are practically no limits to what the technology allows the controllers to do.

For decades now we have been warned of the spectre of the One World Government and everyone thought it would be enacted by way of the UN. Turns out, its going to be orchestrated along the lines of a Corporate Oligarchy. And therein lies a dynamic tension. On the one hand you have the all powerful Multinational Corporations and on the other hand you have the rich and powerful Politicians of individual Nation States, the two vying for ultimate control and say-so over the direction of the future.

I think it's all happening for a reason. We have wonderful cinema graphic
examples of who God is. The elites know him well and they are at war
with him. Their secret history I believe is the catalyst of all the lies they
fill the earth with. We are simply coming to an end of the time they were
granted by God. They wanted a world with out him and God is not a tyrant.

During this time they have perpetuated lie after lies for the rest of
humanity. The most absurd of all being that God does not exist. Every lie
they have spun under the sun. Has been crafted to keep power centralized
on the bloodlines obsessed with Satan's promise. We just witnessed an
example of how desperate they become when someone gets in their way.

So all tho it doesn't seem real. They are frantically trying to reach their
goal through science and Satan worship. This is purely my deduction as i
fit the puzzle pieces more rapidly as it gets close to completion. I pray they
get their great reset in the form of a solar storm. Their hopes rest on
fragile constructs. Their nervous fear was not of Donald Trump.



Their time is slipping away

To be extremely reductive, I believe that pretty much all of human civilization and history can be summed up with Social Groups and Tools, and the interactions thereof.

Typically, one social group angles for control and power using the tools at their disposal.

In the modern context, we see the same thing.. Its just that the tools shape circumstances to an extremely high degree.

Technocrats (who use socialism & communism as PR), currently desire to have absolute control over the tools themselves. So automation, robotics, instant communication, etc. will solely be deployed and accessible through channels the technocrats control.

However, with the rapidity inherent to the modern world, circumstances can change dramatically and quickly. The problem is that most who resist or dissent from the technocracy have little idea how to fight it, which leads to everything from feelings of hopelessness and despair to frustration and anger. Those that support the technocracy (wittingly or otherwise) have been convinced their cause is not only righteous, but imperative for the very survival of humanity.

Neither of these cultivated social groups are likely to pursue anything that would actually compete or provide an alternative. Both "sides" look to the same paradigm as the only framework available.

I believe that is intentional, but even if it isnt, its an inaccurate assumption at best. We are on the cusp of our tools reaching a point that truly redefines what our civilization IS, and some people absolutely Do. Not. Want. that to happen in a form that they cant control.

The only way they can actually do that is to make the general population separate into two groups:

A) A group that has little to no input in the emerging novelty of our technology

B) A group that embraces it, but only in a corporate context. To the point of righteous fervor, even.

We have centralized organizations and authority largely out of necessity. For example, not everyone is willing, or even capable, of growing their own food or manufacturing their own goods. This alone has allowed some social groups to gain power and use the centralized structures to coerce and leverage everyone else into doing what they want.

We have put up with it out of necessity. Even going so far as to found entire nations that are predicated on keeping that behavior in check while still providing the benefits.

All that said, we are entering an age where our tools enable us to reap those benefits without any centralized authority or middle man (or woman).

The ever-vague "people in power" want to stop this at all costs, as it would render them obsolete. Importantly though, while it remove their traditional means of power and authority, I believe it would quickly turn into a circumstance where their quality of life would improve exponentially more, and at a faster rate, than through a paradigm where they have absolute control.

I truly believe we can use all of the tools at our disposal, right now, to build in that direction. I also believe it would be a better path in general, though not without its own unique problems.

We can use ultra-lightweight automation and robotics to do everything from food production to general manufacturing in everyones home. No external or direct data networks, of course, but it could make it so those who would otherwise be unwilling or unable are still capable of literally building their own life.

Group B would have us using this technology, but only from centralized, "approved" authorities (technocracy). Group A is either unaware of much of the potential and yearning for simpler times, or are actively opposed to any of it.

We cant realistically stop the progress of technology. Even a massive EMP wouldnt affect hardened, protected systems. Which means most people would be a bit screwed, but the technocrats would still be A-OK.

The only thing we can do is direct that advancement. As it stands, the only ones determining the real world course of these tools, like communication tech and automation, is the corporate-political system. Even on massive communication platforms, every takes shape in a way that benefits those social groups. Nearly all participants are dancing around the fires that the media sets ablaze.

I believe the key is in simply choosing a different course. Attempting to fight back in the established paradigm will not work though. The concept of building another centralized power to compete with the existing one is a fools errand for a plethora of reasons.

Yet, we have access to all of the things that can build a decentralized structure. And if it gets widely adopted, the progress and refinement would quickly outpace the slow roll of bureaucracy.

We can make it so a paraplegic can grow, harvest, and prepare their own food. While also retaining, and even encouraging and amplifying, more traditional methods. We can make it so someone with no spare time can manufacture their own goods while they are taking a shower.

We can use streaming tech to build completely novel forms of social interaction that dont comply with The Rules of only ever talking about crafted media stories. And again, can do it in a way the encourages and enables more traditonal methods. Also very importantly, this sort of thing is more difficult to censor as it exists outside of outright support/opposition to those who would be censoring.

We have everything we need to build that foundation right here and now. Its just that it has nothing to do with which politician we vote for, whether we support or decry a given group of "protestors," or how we feel about masks & vaccines.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment
Think about it, have you ever really been free?

a reply to: Randyvine

Or their time is reaching a climax which will not end well for them.

a reply to: Serdgiam

Excellent post, thanks - lots to think about. The idea of decentralised networks for all facets of our lives as an alternative to the centralised bureaucracy & corporate oligarchy is a pure & straightforward, valid means of opposition. The 'Freedom Cells' group I linked in the OP maintains that an octa-core (eight-fold) framework/ template works best in terms of social innovation & creativity, as well as providing manageable layers of interlinked groups. I think it's a fantastic approach & would encourage everyone to look into it, and see if there's a pod you can join locally. I've attempted to link up with a group here in the UK, but I've heard nothing back from them yet, it's only a small group so it may take a while until they notice communications. I look forward to seeing how it could all work, and hope that it takes off on a larger scale - it seems the most effective means of mounting a valid resistance.

a reply to: daskakik

When I was a child, I was totally free in my mind & heart, and I remembered other lives in which I was truly free, very long ago. So yes, I know what freedom feels like - I just haven't experienced it in all its fullness as an adult in this lifetime. Incidentally though, I am spiritually free, and I know that I'm defended on that level; however, bodily & socially, I am not free, due to illness & its outworkings. But there's always hope!

a reply to: Randyvine

Good post, lots to think about. God has a plan, that's for sure. But as you say, He is not a tyrant, and has allottted time in which He proved that, by allowing 'us' to choose as we see fit, whether we will follow the fallen, or if we will reach out for true freedom. I believe that the world is about to become much more aware of the desperation & despotic evil of the ultra-elitists, and that a great many will awaken to the true meaning of spiritual & material freedom.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

I think it's worth noticing that thru history our Father has only
intervened previously to what was accomplished on Calvary.

When the lineage to the house of David was threatened. The
uncorrupted gene pool the Christ would be born there of.
Victory is already ours.

Now vanished to vacancy as the time allotted concludes. Rapture
no rapture I don't even care. I'm ready to be done with this sickening
mess. By rescue or death it's his will first. His word is truth.

Enough preaching pray kick it and fear not.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment
Children are a bad example because they have it worst, in regards to freedom. They are told what to do all the time.

The question wasn't if you know what freedom is but have you ever really been free, in this lifetime/paradigm?

Maybe what is dying is the illusion of freedom?

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

While I certainly dont oppose what Freedom Cells is doing, I am talking about a layer of decentralization beyond that. Where every man & women is essentially a nation unto themselves. Then, from that framework, we build.

Lets say someone(s) in your "pod" simply takes a disliking towards you.. We run into exactly the same issues as always, just on a smaller scale. No less detrimental though.

In my opinion, the only way to avoid this is to make the basic node the individual, or at least each household.

Then, the "pods" that we can create have little relevance to locality or even continent. At that point, the only reason we would organize locally would be for region specific issues, or simply to enjoy the uniqueness of in-person interaction. A uniqueness that I believe will persist even after we have developed and deployed "holographic chat rooms" (or something similar).

The entire goal is to remove the ability of groups to exploit the basic needs of the individual. Where "basic needs" is defined within the context of our ever-advancing tools. Things like food, etc. are as basic as it gets, but would include manufacturing as well. Basically anything that would enable modern life as we know it. And would almost certainly grow to include other things as our species advances.

This doesnt eliminate the benefits of groups though, it just removes locality and points of leverage as being driving factors in their organization. Coupled with expanding documents like the Constitution to include restricting any group that achieves power, influence, or resources similar to a government.. and we can start to see a very novel paradigm emerge.

a reply to: Serdgiam

The entire goal is to remove the ability of groups to exploit the basic needs of the individual. Where "basic needs" is defined within the context of our ever-advancing tools. Things like food, etc. are as basic as it gets, but would include manufacturing as well. Basically anything that would enable modern life as we know it. And would almost certainly grow to include other things as our species advances.

This is absolutely key, and I totally get what you're saying. My only concern would be whether we can organise & deploy efficiently & quickly enough these alternative systems, before the big bad wolf comes along to blow the house down...?

a reply to: daskakik

I disagree - as a child of very young age I experienced life as a sort of reverie - my heart & mind were free. Sure, the framework of my life was dictated by others, but I was free within it. Reclaiming that innate sense of freedom is perhaps the true goal of our own lives (in terms of personal accomplishment) - but greater still, if we can elevate the experience of others to this plateau of freedom in heart & mind, regardless of the structure of our life's framework, and even further, if we can rebuild a fairer framework - these are the most worthy goals of all. It's a tiered thing. Freedom in stages.