Non Political thoughts on Covid

a reply to: putnam6

When its all said and done more people will likely die from the stress and isolation than the actual COVID bug

The weird thing is the years prior to Covid I knew way too many people that committed suicide. One year it was 5 or 6 friends. Very sad. During Covid I only know of 2. But I agree, the stress is bad. I think there will be long term mental health issues that will last years.

a reply to: JAGStorm

i knew way too many people that committed suicide. One year it was 5 or 6

i hate to laugh at that. but with those odds, i dont want to be friends with you.

originally posted by: Rikku
a reply to: JAGStorm

i knew way too many people that committed suicide. One year it was 5 or 6

i hate to laugh at that. but with those odds, i dont want to be friends with you.

It was horrible. Friend after friend, three alone were in Colorado. Not sure what is going on there, but everyone that I know there is super depressed. A friend in Europe, another here in Wisconsin. The sad thing is all those people were the “happy” people.

In hindsight, many of them reminded me of Robin Williams, happy on the outside, very very troubled on the inside.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Well I'm in Colorado and I don't know a single person who died of Covid, and I know a LOT of people here. But I do know some who got Covid and were just fine. My problem is, since the flu has been magically defeated....I can't help but think most of those people just had the flu. But how would we know? Anyone even talking about the flu anymore?

originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: JAGStorm

Well I'm in Colorado and I don't know a single person who died of Covid, and I know a LOT of people here. But I do know some who got Covid and were just fine. My problem is, since the flu has been magically defeated....I can't help but think most of those people just had the flu. But how would we know? Anyone even talking about the flu anymore?

I don’t know a single person in Colorado that died of Covid either, I know three that died from suicide there though, before Covid.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

But, it doesn't appear that we will. And even if we do with the context of COVID, we're surely going to have some events in the near future that are going to be in a similar realm of challenge, if not more. Are we better suited now to handle those? I don't think so, I think we're carrying resentment, and no good crisis will go to waste in bringing down perceived enemies who are typically our neighbors.

I have mixed feelings on this. Some countries that battled SARS fared better against Covid.
I think we are too divided as a nation and for things like pandemics it should be all or nothing. Total complete lockdown, or absolutely nothing. Unfortunately we did neither and I feel just made everything much worse and more drawn out.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Yeah I got that the first time you said it.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: CriticalStinker

But, it doesn't appear that we will. And even if we do with the context of COVID, we're surely going to have some events in the near future that are going to be in a similar realm of challenge, if not more. Are we better suited now to handle those? I don't think so, I think we're carrying resentment, and no good crisis will go to waste in bringing down perceived enemies who are typically our neighbors.

I have mixed feelings on this. Some countries that battled SARS fared better against Covid.
I think we are too divided as a nation and for things like pandemics it should be all or nothing. Total complete lockdown, or absolutely nothing. Unfortunately we did neither and I feel just made everything much worse and more drawn out.

I think all or nothing works as a countries collective mentality... But not in terms of the timing on how regions/localities react to something.

The federal government should only offer guidance, support, and as an information hub to the country. Governors and mayor's should be quarterbacking localized responses.

West Virginia didn't have any COVID cases for a long time, so they shouldn't have to have an extreme lock down if they can instead remain productive. That's just an example, and honestly it's more nuanced than that since they're a pretty unique state. But it serves as a decent example.

I know the rural community was turned off to a lot of the measures before any of it became relevant to them because they found it all arbitrary. It's easy in hindsight to see things clearly, but in the span of months being shut down, I can understand their frustration and skeptism.

But what you and I are doing is what we should all continue to do. And thats just to discuss these things without turning it into a battle of ideology. It's so tiring when everything turns into a psychological construct. A virus is an extremely simple and indiscriminate mechanism, it doesn't much care about our ideas lol.

Non political thoughts on covid...

Covid 19 is a disease of the mind, Covid 19 is the enemy of freedom, anyone that worships the covid gods narratives are your enemy. F you covid go back to hell.

the end.

Condolences on your losses JAGStorm.

But yeah, in the last year and a half I've not personally known a single person who has caught covid or died from it.

And I too have friends all over the world. I've known plenty of people who have had to quarantine though because 'symptoms' many similar to good old cold and flu, and all of them came out of it it covid free.

Not saying covid isn't real. Not saying people haven't died from it. But I do say every time I hear about it killing people or people even getting sick from it it's from complete strangers and often a friend of a friend of a friend of mine at that.

Won't give my two cents on why this is happening, but I will say there is more to the last year and half than I think we're being told about or are capable of knowing.

And like UFO's I'm not seeing compelling evidence. It takes more than showing me bodies on trolly's outside an Indian hospital and saying they just 'insta died' of covid while waiting for the vaccine and nothing else, like you now some actual evidence.
Same for when someone tells me such on a forum and doesn't provide actual evidence.

End of the day this # is here whether we believe in or not and here to stay. It's time to get the world moving again.
Otherwise I want to start seeing bodies piling up in the streets.

Again my sincere condolences. Losing people always sucks.

But yeah I now think I want to be your friend IRL as much as I want to befriend Jessica Fletcher from Murder She Wrote with your average body count. No offence.
You seem to be beating the averages there pretty well.

How incredibly ignorant and insensitive... Not to mention just blatantly wrong. Just becauze some of you insist on living in this delusion because your pride wont let you admit youve been conned and manipulated into espousing litetal propaganda.


It just blowz my mind how stupid some people can be especially when it comes to this virus. Especially here on ATS. The motto is supposed to be "Deny Ignorance", not embrace it FFS.

On one hand part of me hopes those of you still manipulating the facts and cherry picking them to formulate this patently false idea that covid has been blown out of proportion- have to deal with the virus directly. Not becsuse i wish ill-will on you or anyone for that matter, i dont nor would I condone it. However it seems short of having that direct experience there really is no hope of yall stepoing outside of your delusion. I will never forgive the corruption and narcissim of our last president and his cult for brainwashing so many into thinking this virus wasnt every bit as real and serious as it is. I had hoped by this point There would be no doubt, but some just continue to double down amd stick their head further in the sand to avoid reality...... And its pathetically sad.


How a % of people could be so easily manipulated i will never understand especially when the truth is not even hidden. Its just so sad.


Bless your heart.

originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: JAGStorm

Yeah. I'm suspicious.
The math doesn't work out right.
Are we talking FB friends in the hundreds of thousands?
Carry on.
Added..
Not trying to sound rude here, but
how would you even know what the death was with admittedly padded cod numbers
And admittedly bogus pcr test standards?
And a virus that now has a 1 million pound reward for anyone who can isolate a sample of it?

What is wrong with you people!?


The delusions here with some of you.... Blow my mind.

Shame on you.


How narcissitic can one be to believe a global pandemic isnt actually happening and that this virus isnt every bit as serious as it is solely because youve been lucky enough not to lose anyone you know. You need to see bodies piling up in the streets? The images from india alone, could just be ...anything!?!?


My god what has happened to ATS... Moreso what has happened to this world...

For your sake I hope whatever would constitute undeniable proof never happens to you- because it seems short of allout apocolyptic scenes many of you will continie to embrace ignorance regardless. Hell, even then... At this point, it seems you all wouod just manufacture some other ridiculous notion to explain what was.happening to avoid having to admit how incredibly wrong you are.


I just dont get it.

originally posted by: AtomicKangaroo
Condolences on your losses JAGStorm.

But yeah, in the last year and a half I've not personally known a single person who has caught covid or died from it.

And I too have friends all over the world. I've known plenty of people who have had to quarantine though because 'symptoms' many similar to good old cold and flu, and all of them came out of it it covid free.

Not saying covid isn't real. Not saying people haven't died from it. But I do say every time I hear about it killing people or people even getting sick from it it's from complete strangers and often a friend of a friend of a friend of mine at that.

Won't give my two cents on why this is happening, but I will say there is more to the last year and half than I think we're being told about or are capable of knowing.

And like UFO's I'm not seeing compelling evidence. It takes more than showing me bodies on trolly's outside an Indian hospital and saying they just 'insta died' of covid while waiting for the vaccine and nothing else, like you now some actual evidence.
Same for when someone tells me such on a forum and doesn't provide actual evidence.

End of the day this # is here whether we believe in or not and here to stay. It's time to get the world moving again.
Otherwise I want to start seeing bodies piling up in the streets.

Again my sincere condolences. Losing people always sucks.

But yeah I now think I want to be your friend IRL as much as I want to befriend Jessica Fletcher from Murder She Wrote with your average body count. No offence.
You seem to be beating the averages there pretty well.

a reply to: itswhatev

On one hand part of me hopes those of you still manipulating the facts and cherry picking them to formulate this patently false idea that covid has been blown out of proportion- have to deal with the virus directly.

The relative that died was urged by family members not to get vaccinated. Now he is dead and those around him are left with guilt and wondering. Mind you, he may have still died if vaccinated, or not, but then it would have been his choice.

They were people that scoffed at the virus and now he is dead, and the family is left picking up the pieces. He didn't take the virus seriously either. I said it in my OP, I wouldn't wish his death on my worst enemy. Life can change in seconds, unfortunately too many people don't believe it until it personally touches their family, very closely.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I guess thats what baffels me the most though honestly. I understand very much that for a lot of people there is a severe distrust in both "officials" aswell as any type of "media"... And i get that. I share in that distrust to am extent, i would argue a high % of people on ats likely share in that in some way. That said... If one takes it upon themselves to truly look at the data, look at the studies- therr are thousands at this point, look at the bare facts amd statistics, the science. When looking at that alone there should be absolutely no doubt about the unprecedented nature of this virus and its known capabilities. Yet we have just one specific demographic which seems to overwhelmingly be associated with a certain type of mentality/political ideology.... Who continues to act as if none of that id available. Unless of course, it is some obscure, baseless, factless claim by someone whos backgroumd has nothing to do with virology ir epidemiology or who is very transparently motivated by the same ideology. One literally has to bend over backwords to ignore the data, to suppory the outlandish and absurd ideas put forth repeatedly about this virus...especially here on ATS. If seeing really is believing, then.what exactly are they not seeing?? Surely no one.could truly be that blind i iust simply domt believe it.

Deep down i think these people know they are full of excrement and are just participating in a shared charade-like delusion motivated by their own fears they simply cant grt a handle on. The reality is simply to scary for them to admit so they cling to thesr madeup fairytales instead because it somehow is easier for them to deal with. Thats the only logical reasoning I can come up with.... And quite frankly, its just sad.


Im sorry for the loss youve experienced. Thanks for sharing your truth.

a reply to: itswhatev

motivated by their own fears they simply cant grt a handle on

I agree, and I do think that is valid for both sides. Some are ridiculous when it comes to Covid and haven't left their house.
Others are way too nonchalant and think it's fake (that boggles my mind).

I understand though, that's why I don't like to argue too much with people because I believe it has to do with their environment. Some people live in a very small circle. They may think they have a lot of friends/acquaintances, but they really don't. They think they have traveled, but they really haven't. Where I live currently is like that. It is a small town, and people think they know a lot of people, and because they travel "North" they think they are well traveled.

I have lived in 38 HOUSES in multiple countries, in many many many states! So if you can just imagine how many people I have met. I went to a different school at least every 3 years. I have worked for three massive companies. One so gigantic it had it's own zip code. So my experience is very different than someone that has lived in the same place all their life, only knows the same people and type of people.

Back to the virus it is real. Someone that lives in New York city probably has a different take on it vs someone from a small town population 5K.
Some places in the US were just not hit as hard. For those people, many haven't had a close hand experience with it.

Present test result earlier this week, experienced an onslaught of Chills on Sat tested Monday, started to feel worse and developed other symptoms after the test. Currently tired even after sleeping all week, stuffy nose, fever subsides when taking an over counter concoction. I am not able to trust a fart tho.

Brother had it last year.

a reply to: itswhatev

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: itswhatev

motivated by their own fears they simply cant grt a handle on

I agree, and I do think that is valid for both sides. Some are ridiculous when it comes to Covid and haven't left their house.
Others are way too nonchalant and think it's fake (that boggles my mind).

I understand though, that's why I don't like to argue too much with people because I believe it has to do with their environment. Some people live in a very small circle. They may think they have a lot of friends/acquaintances, but they really don't. They think they have traveled, but they really haven't. Where I live currently is like that. It is a small town, and people think they know a lot of people, and because they travel "North" they think they are well traveled.

I have lived in 38 HOUSES in multiple countries, in many many many states! So if you can just imagine how many people I have met. I went to a different school at least every 3 years. I have worked for three massive companies. One so gigantic it had it's own zip code. So my experience is very different than someone that has lived in the same place all their life, only knows the same people and type of people.

Back to the virus it is real. Someone that lives in New York city probably has a different take on it vs someone from a small town population 5K.
Some places in the US were just not hit as hard. For those people, many haven't had a close hand experience with it.

Still not buying it. At worst it is a suped up fly, at best it is a greedy few making money off scared people. Think the church and selling indulgences.

Like you said many (I would say many many) haven’t had a close hand experience with it. There’s a reason for that (it’s not a pandemic) and it ain’t no small pox or bubonic plague.

For you lot who opine over the people who ignore the hoo-har, rest at night knowing we wonder at your incredulity and duplicity in being an ‘inmate who guards the inmates’

Remember, we’re all in this together OSS.