It may be HORRIFYING and SHOCKING but it's the truth

a reply to: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND
I'm glad you got this off your chest and I hope you feel better, but you're preaching to the choir. Most of the main contributors here are already believers to one degree or another, and those who aren't are highly unlikely to be persuaded by this or any other sermon.

I appreciate the formatting though, it's so much easier to read than a wall of text.

a reply to: Waterglass

Well, that's just unfriendly. You're off my Christmas mailing list. Just repent and believe in the TRUE God and I'll forgive you.

a reply to: Klassified

I just think it's HORRIFYING and SHOCKING to some people. You're welcome.

a reply to: Tundra

God is all powerful and ask no one's permission to do anything.
God does what He wants regardless of anyone's opinion. (He knows what's best.)
We have a God we need to know, He might not be the one we want but He is who He IS, so we must change to suit Him, not visa versa or, hell.
(Sorry)

a reply to: 19Bones79

I respect your opinion. I do but... you can tell Him. Not me. I'm just glad he's not a malevolent dictator. He's complicated. If He wasn't He wouldn't he God. He's misunderstood. People hate Him. He gives and takes away. Gives us choices. The rest is up to us. But if you choose wrong you may well end up in hell for all eternity. This isn't a game. If more people took Him seriously the world would heal.

originally posted by: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND
a reply to: Randyvine

Yes, if Nancy was God. What could you actually do. Thank God God's not Nancy. He's something different. Lol. Lets imagine Nancy was God and not 'Steve.' 1. Who are you compared to her. 2. Would you rather choose hell than follow her? 3. Do you think there is any other choice?

No listen I get what you're say'n. lol
No matter what God is or who God is or how he deals with his
Creation. If he's a psychotic thunder God full of spite and anger?

He's still God and that's it. That's what we got. Fortunately if you
read what the scriptures say instead of what some here try to
make it say and basically lie on Gods word. Pretty horrible sin i
believe in Gods eyes. And very ignorant in mine. He of course is
a loving God first. The rest is up to us.


I'm just wondering now which one of us is going to tell Nancy
she isn't God?

Sacred coin toss?

a reply to: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND

You would think that if a god gives you a brain as a gift it would be prudent to actually use it and not come across as a toady hellbent on kissing deranged ass.

You have submitted to worshipping what through your own description is nothing less than a crazed maniac with unlimited power and an inferiority complex.

Do you feel spiritual at all? Enlightened even?


Or are you simply a slave singing away as the whip cracks over your head?

You have not imparted any wisdom. Instead you come here as the ambassador of a god that relies on threats and coercion.

I would think that a supreme being would have a better sales pitch than sounding exactly like nomadic desert barbarians that caused # wherever they went a few thousand years ago.

originally posted by: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND
All this is REAL and verifiable.

I'd be more willing to accept this as REAL if you could provide this "verifiable" evidence you talk of?

I am sure verifiable evidence of god existing would make you a very, very, very rich man... Not a lot of that about you see.. (Note: Vague claims, centuries old anecdotal evidence and peoples personal delusions/opinions do not qualify)...

What does it entail this evidence?

Please elaborate...

PA

originally posted by: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND
a reply to: Tundra

God is all powerful and ask no one's permission to do anything.
God does what He wants regardless of anyone's opinion. (He knows what's best.)
We have a God we need to know, He might not be the one we want but He is who He IS, so we must change to suit Him, not visa versa or, hell.
(Sorry)

Uhhhhhhh.......... Yeah, ok. Just make sure to have your TPS reports on my desk by the end of the day. It's your hell, you can go to it.

a reply to: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND

I agree with most of what you've said.

God is not who we think -- he is the Demiurge -- and yes, he's not all love and light.

a reply to: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND

Also. Isn't god more like an it? I think its funny when people say glory to HIM for HE is all mighty. HEHEHE!!!

a reply to: Destal



Im sure I will get called a sinner for this one. Oh well, I guess it's hell for me.

"Writhing and embraced
Retribution, soul eclipse turns solid
Energized
Sucking vomit, acting like its honey
Deprived of I
Falling while thrusting squares through circles
Serving one single new dimension

Terror rising
Agnostics' nemesis
A prophet of extinction

I scorch the skies before your very eyes
My deliverance
Enslavement labelled love

Just trust this, nemesis, to sign and seal extinction"

originally posted by: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND
a reply to: Lazarus Short

I enjoyed your reply thank you. Very thought provoking. I brought up hell to raise a greater point. I'm trying to shock people to realize not only is there a God but He's not in our control. EVEN if God wanted to create a 'hell there would be nothing we could do. NOTHING. We must give God His due honour. Some people deny He even exists! I'm just trying to point out the REAL story of humanity.

I did read your post. I'd really like to believe hell is not real. I'd like to believe God's not real, but He is.

Consider that Hell:

is not found in the Bible's accounts of creation

is not mentioned in the Law that God gave to Moses

is not listed as the fate of anyone in the Bible after death

is absent from the historical narratives

is absent from the poetical works

is not listed as a consequence of the sin of Adam and Eve...but death only

is absent from the pairings of 'heaven and earth" "earth and sea" and so on

is absent from the Hebrew and Greek languages - it is translated from "sheol" "hades" "gehenna" and "tartarus" - none of which refer to a place of eternal conscious torment in fire - the word "hell" comes from the languages of pagan north Europe

is not associated with the Lake of Fire, which is the ONLY place the wicked dead go - it is for refining, if you understand the meaning and purpose of Godfire, for God refers to Himself as a refiner of men, and even as soap - He refines us until all our dross, tares, chaff, wood, hay and stubble are burned away

Hell was brought in from paganism and used to keep pews and offering plates full.

originally posted by: Tundra
a reply to: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND

I could get through about 7 "paragraphs," the one about aliens saving me. Can you sum it up into about three complete sentences?

Here, let me help. Three sentences? Ok.
Jesus.
Jesus.
Jesus.

a reply to: snowspirit

I’m shown the the passages that make me realize God doesn’t want me reading the bible.

I continue to marvel at this notion that one should align their lives with the reading of a random passage from a ''special'' book. That practice naturally leads one to have it interpreted by an ''expert'' who is closer to the author than we are.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire

I continue to marvel at this notion that one should align their lives with the reading of a random passage from a ''special'' book. That practice naturally leads one to have it interpreted by an ''expert'' who is closer to the author than we are.

Most folks can understand what God is saying to us if

1. They use an honest translation - most fall under "Lies, damned lies and bad translation."

2. They do not read said translation through a theo-illogical filter.

a reply to: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND
Up to about half way I thought "This is probably the most brilliant thing I've ever read." ...

a reply to: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND

My 1st and 2nd marriages were "shocking" and "horrifying". And thats the truth....

your mistake is thinking God is anything like us or that God is limited by the same weaknesses as us .

God is many dimensions beyond us God see's in infinite dimensions all at once understanding all at once .

We see one dimension , We understand one dimension .

You have to understand God is not letting anything happen , We are. This is simply God's creation we are the ones living in it .

originally posted by: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND
a reply to: RAY1990

Christians are careful to follow a God they know they can't change. You would be wise to do the same.

I don't wish to change your God. The only being I'll ever be into changing is myself, I'll keep trying to better myself and attempting to leave positivity. I don't need a moral code for that but I do have a compass.

I'd rather be damned than follow something I fundamentally disagree with. I do believe in a higher power though, I just don't think it's your God or anyone elses. Jesus seemed pretty cool tho