When the Covid jab arrived in India, things quickly started to change

I said to someone recently that it is only a conspiracy if you dont believe in it, not sure if that makes sense though. a reply to: myselfaswell

a reply to: dontneedaname

Would that be the same India where a few years ago, the leader, 'strong-man' Modi, slung WHO and Gates out of the country?

wearechange.org...

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: XCrycek
So why aren't we seeing massive covid surge in Israel where most people have been vaccinated per capita? Don't let the facts stand in your way

Thats a very good question , Would you care to elaborate ?

I'm willing to bet most people in India have already had Covid-19 Months ago , So this surge is strange to say the least .

The second most densely populated place on Earth mate a literal Viral paradise , and just now it's burning through there country ?

Whether its the Vaccine or not , it's a very strange situation.

Well. They found a mutation in India which is more infectious and deadly than the previous one. This is definitely one of the major reasons for the surge. And as I stated. UK and Israel have vaccinated more people than anyone else but we aren't seeing a surge in covid deaths or infected. Indi has had some massive festivals since January that as many as 25+ million people visited ignoring the whole covid thing. Those have been some massive superspreader events.

originally posted by: teapot
a reply to: dontneedaname

Would that be the same India where a few years ago, the leader, 'strong-man' Modi, slung WHO and Gates out of the country?

wearechange.org...

Source: vactruth. Com lol.

Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation have been working in India for over a decade. As of May 18, 2020 the Foundation faces no charges in India and continues to work in the country.
So nope.
Co ud surge in India is not some kind of revenge either

originally posted by: Cloudbuster
Kia ora Rickymouse, how long do you think someone sheds the virus after their first vaccine, I am planning to visit a relative who got vaccinated about a week ago, I will not see them for another three days, I am nervous......a reply to: rickymouse

The vaccine does not have a live virus in it that can cause disease. But if you are vaccinated, you can still get the virus if exposed, the duration that you are a threat of spreading it is less than if you don't have the vaccine. Maybe five to six days of shedding the virus at most.

After getting the virus after having the vaccine it will be the same as getting the virus and getting immunity naturally, so there is a reduction of passing it on there too but with the vaccine, they say that your chance of getting the disease Covid 19 evolve from the virus in the future, which is kind of beneficial I suppose.

Now if you actually recovered from the virus either way you will have natural immunity, there most likely is very little transmission of the virus for most people...maybe a day or so at most till the immune system kills the virus. Even if you have natural immunity and get infected, you could possibly pass on the virus for a short period, the period is just way less...stay home for the day if you are sick if possible. That is even applicable to the flu vaccine, the longer from the vaccination the longer the kicking in of the immune system, and a person vaccinated for the flu can still pass it on for a short time if they are coughing all over you.

Vaccines do not make anyone immune, they only prepare the immune system to fight faster to destroy the virus.

Did you care to think this is a direct representation of people relaxing their guard just because of a vaccine being given?
There are many reasons besides somehow this being an underground conspiracy to infect the masses in India.
Besides that, India is dirty. It was only a matter of time before their numbers exploded.
Also, you never referenced if they were testing more, the same, or less.

a reply to: dontneedaname

URGENT! 5 DOCTORS AGREE THAT COVID-19 INJECTIONS ARE BIOWEAPONS AND DISCUSS WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT

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Don't know how to imbed

a reply to: dontneedaname

Yeah it must be the vaccine can't have anything to do with the Kumbh Mela festival which started March 11th.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

I have to admit it is a strange coincidence that Covid-19 would wait until now to make a hard strike in India , It's been in India for some time now and India being the second most populous country on earth I'm not sure what was holding Covid-19 back from spreading .

I don't believe in Coincidence .

So if event A happens at the same time as event B, A must have caused B? Good luck with that scientific method.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

Logic dictates the Vaccine is having something to do with this Covid surge .

With less than 10 per cent of India’s population vaccinated, logic dictates the cause must lie elsewhere.

Other events that occurred just before the surge: The emergence of new and more infectious strains, mass political gatherings in March and April, international cricket matches with full stadiums and few wearing masks, and several large religious festivals, such as the Kumbh Mela, an event attended by millions.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: dontneedaname

Yeah it must be the vaccine can't have anything to do with the Kumbh Mela festival which started March 11th.

The thing is...we see a rise after VAX in many countries.

Also this article: relevant to Delhi - as it is one of the most affected places per the media, FWIW.

Herd Immunity - Delhi, India

www.webmd.com...

originally posted by: XCrycek
So why aren't we seeing massive covid surge in Israel where most people have been vaccinated per capita? Don't let the facts stand in your way

Israel was at near ZERO cases this time last year as well. We need to see in several months - July / August / Sept.

Israel did have a big case/death wave that started right after starting the Pfizer vax rollout.

Seasonality / collective health rules...that is likely easier to breach in India than in Israel, USA, or most other places.

The comment on up to 90% Vit D deficient is interesting. How could one of the most sunniest places be so deficient?

air pollution....blocking the sun?

originally posted by: XCrycek
So why aren't we seeing massive covid surge in Israel where most people have been vaccinated per capita? Don't let the facts stand in your way

Well, the simple refutation of that argument is that, unlike Indians, Israelis are not deficient in Vitamin D, which is required for a strong immunity against viruses.

You really wonder, these third world countries that have millions living in slums were reporting almost no cases for almost the entire time the US was in lockdowns, funny isn't it?

reply to: dontneedaname
It is not a matter of how long you live in the sun. It's a matter of your racial DNA. Most Israelis are offspring of white Europeans. Having too little vitamin D is not due solely to diet or lack of sunlight, but may be due to your genes. See here

originally posted by: panoz77
You really wonder, these third world countries that have millions living in slums were reporting almost no cases for almost the entire time the US was in lockdowns, funny isn't it?

Not really. The Indian Covid virus has mutated into a more virulent form, that's all. Nothing to do with dodgy vaccines. The new variant, called B.1.617, was initially detected in India with two mutations -- the E484Q and L452R. It was first reported late last year by a scientist in India and more details were presented before the WHO on Monday.

Viruses mutate all the time, as part of evolutionary biology. Some mutations weaken the virus while others may make it stronger, enabling it to proliferate faster or cause more infections. Prime ministers who live with their heads in the Indian dirt don't help, either.
Full details of India's double mutation:
www.livemint.com...

originally posted by: micpsi
reply to: dontneedaname
It is not a matter of how long you live in the sun. It's a matter of your racial DNA. Most Israelis are offspring of white Europeans. Having too little vitamin D is not due solely to diet or lack of sunlight, but may be due to your genes. See here

Processing your article. Thanks.

But skin color affects Vit D absorption. The darker the skin, the more equivalent sunlight you need, all things being equal.

That's why blacks / latinos in USA make up a larger % of cases than their percentage would reflect.

But talk about skin color - especially last year - and some start accusing you of racism! No, it's the living in multi-generational households! Blah blah blah.

originally posted by: micpsi

originally posted by: panoz77
You really wonder, these third world countries that have millions living in slums were reporting almost no cases for almost the entire time the US was in lockdowns, funny isn't it?

Not really. The Indian Covid virus has mutated into a more virulent form, that's all. Nothing to do with dodgy vaccines. The new variant, called B.1.617, was initially detected in India with two mutations -- the E484Q and L452R. It was first reported late last year by a scientist in India and more details were presented before the WHO on Monday.

Viruses mutate all the time, as part of evolutionary biology. Some mutations weaken the virus while others may make it stronger, enabling it to proliferate faster or cause more infections. Prime ministers who live with their heads in the Indian dirt don't help, either.
Full details of India's double mutation:
www.livemint.com...

Things were first reported last year...because all these vaccines were tested last year!

But now they are coming out in force...

Viruses mutate for specific reasons, it's not some random mechanism for the most part. You just copied verbatim from the article's last #.

Sorry...that's just not true.

originally posted by: micpsi

originally posted by: panoz77
You really wonder, these third world countries that have millions living in slums were reporting almost no cases for almost the entire time the US was in lockdowns, funny isn't it?

Not really. The Indian Covid virus has mutated into a more virulent form, that's all. Nothing to do with dodgy vaccines. The new variant, called B.1.617, was initially detected in India with two mutations -- the E484Q and L452R. It was first reported late last year by a scientist in India and more details were presented before the WHO on Monday.

Viruses mutate all the time, as part of evolutionary biology. Some mutations weaken the virus while others may make it stronger, enabling it to proliferate faster or cause more infections. Prime ministers who live with their heads in the Indian dirt don't help, either.
Full details of India's double mutation:
www.livemint.com...

Where are the USA mutations?

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

Don't know how to imbed

Just concentrate on mastering Caps Lock and maybe read a science textbook because what you wanted to embed is irresponsible pseudoscientific piffle.

"Expert" 1: Dr. Lawrence Palevsky (pediatrician)
"So where are all the viruses that we’re concerned about? They’re probably in our own chromosomes already... The viruses kick in from within, not from the outside. We all think that the virus comes from outside.”

He presents this as fact, not theory, but offers nothing to support it. It's nonsense. Even Hippocrates knew we contract viruses from outside the body (theory of miasmas), not from within, which would make this the most radical departure from medical science (not to mention common sense) since the birth of medicine.

"Expert" 2: Dr Christiane Northrup (gynecologist)

"My divorce culminated during what is astrologically known as my Chiron return….simultaneously I had been under the influence of an astrological configuration know as a yod…the purpose of this was to move me out of my old life…”

Or in other words, "science isn't really my thing".

"Expert" 3: Dr Sherri Tenpenny (osteopath)

"I'm not a scientific researcher"
The most factual quote I could find from her.




"Expert" 4: Dr Carrie Madej (osteopath)

vaccines will “hook us all up to an artificial intelligence interface”
Yeah, I'm using it to type this.

"Expert" 5: Dr Lee Merritt (orthopaedic surgeon)

"This vaccine was rolled out to distribution centers before they even made a show of caring about the FDA approving it... It went out for distribution, I know in Nebraska, it was in the distribution center days before the FDA even said they were going to approve it."



Interestingly she's only rated 3/5 by her patients: health.usnews.com...