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Spain to give pets the same rights as humans

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posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 07:48 AM
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Except is a hollow rights that can’t really be enforced because animals can’t testify. I am all for treating animals with respect and dignity and view my dogs as part of my family, however I don’t believe it should be law because it’s impossible to enforce anymore then current animal cruelty laws

The law if applied to big agro would cause unfeasible business with some animals. Make no mistake farm animals are a commodity and are treated as such room for improvement? Yes. Same rights or even close to same right as humans, no.

So what if someone insult my dog in a possibly caninephobic manner. Where do I go to sue for damages.

a reply to: FinallyAwake



posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 07:48 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

To be fair, I am torn on this subject. My pets are my family. But I do eat meat. I've never raised a sheep or goat or cow or pig. But I've seen them behave with emotional response to the people who treat them as pets.

I opt not to get into discussion about it.. Often futile, and no one walks away thinking any differently.

but when it does come to pets, as accepted, I've never treated mine with any less than I would another member of my family. And I know all too well that people have abused domesticated animals beyond the hellish. A friend of mine runs groups on facebook advocating against puppy farms. but she is a bit, well she has all these little dogs that yap and nip.


but I admire her for her dedication.

I hope this means that people will be more aware of the living conditions of the animals they have adopted. They're not tools, or toys.

In some dastardly imagination, I imagine some proper[/] bloke in the UK seeing animals and humans as equals, as meaning he can drag some undomesticated homeless human out to hunt..
but that could just be a swervy Friday night !

Also I am watching Better Call Saul..



posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 08:33 AM
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Yeah, human rights for animals! We need to end the mass sterilization of cats and dogs! They have a god given right to reproduce!



posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: Athetos

If a dog chases a cat, is that a hate crime? Is that racist?



posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 09:16 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

We need to solve the issues with the evil oppressive hierarchies prevalent in the animxl kingdom. No more conflicts at the bxrd feeders. There should be enough bxrd feeders to feed every bxrd, squxrrel, and bexr.

It's okay for eagles to be ganged up on by smaller bxrds though because eagles represent white supremacy and toxic masculinity.

And don't even get me started on the rape culture that goes unchecked in the animxl kingdom.

And no animxl should go unfed or without shelter. We need to exterminate exterminators. They can just learn to code or something. Or go to reeducation facilities. Animxls have a right to live within your walls and eat your food. No more eating scraps out of dumpsters. Every white person should leave a bowl of water and vegetables on the front porch. No meat. Cannibalism is wrong. Animxls shouldn't have to resort to eating each other to survive.

And no milk, because don't get me started on rape culture.

And eagles doesn't have an x because only marginalized animxls get an x in their name. And oppressive creatures aren't worthy of being called animxls. They are less than animxl.
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posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 10:43 AM
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My cats were reading what you wrote and now want to move to spain.



posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: DISRAELI



How can you possibly claim that animals have full human rights if they live under what amounts to domestic slavery?

Calling it 'slavery' is a bit of a stretch. Yes, some are slaves, but not all. For most pets, it's actually quite the opposite of slavery. Many pets have it made. They're spoiled.

I know my cat definitely isn't a slave. First off, he never does anything at all that is actually for me. Also, he goes outside almost every morning. He doesn't have to come back, but he chooses to.



posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: Robbo2006



Doggy prison will end up full of rapist, Charges of Crapping in public areas. Hounding bitches in public areas, And the list goes on,


I'd say that somewhere near the top of that list would be a very high amount of accusations/complaints regarding pussy grabbing sniffing, and also touching/licking oneself while in the presence of others, without their consent. (possibly indecent exposure)



posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 12:00 PM
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a reply to: FinallyAwake

So if a neighbor shoots an unarmed dog about to maul him, the neighbor should be charged with murder, right ?


P.S. Dogs should also be allowed to carry firearms for self defense, against "bigoted" humans.....


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posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 12:42 PM
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originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: FinallyAwake

So if a neighbor shoots an unarmed dog about to maul him, the neighbor should be charged with murder, right ?


P.S. Dogs should also be allowed to carry firearms for self defense, against "bigoted" humans.....



No, that would be self defence and only a dogslaughter charge



posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: jerich0

The morality behind it is flawless, the enactment may be problematic, they are still pets after all but yes more rights is always better for everyone than less rights, go the other way and you walk back into slavery so your point is excellent.


If it is as claimed, the morality is very flawed. God did not create man as the beasts of the field. He created us in His image and gave us dominion. The morality of this law sets us as equals to the beasts of the field.

And one can say that and still believe they are worthy of kindness and respect.



posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 01:36 PM
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originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: FinallyAwake
One of the most fundamental rights is the right not to be owned by other people.
So if this law really lived up to its publiciity, it would have to include the banning of pet ownership.



Haha yes, true compassion would be millions of people letting their domesticated dogs and cats go!



posted on Apr, 23 2021 @ 06:49 PM
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originally posted by: FinallyAwake

originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: FinallyAwake

So if a neighbor shoots an unarmed dog about to maul him, the neighbor should be charged with murder, right ?


P.S. Dogs should also be allowed to carry firearms for self defense, against "bigoted" humans.....



No, that would be self defence and only a dogslaughter charge



And in Venezuela, also run into the ground by socialists just like Spain, people are reduced to eating dogs....what charges then ?....



posted on Apr, 24 2021 @ 05:13 AM
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originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: FinallyAwake

originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: FinallyAwake

So if a neighbor shoots an unarmed dog about to maul him, the neighbor should be charged with murder, right ?


P.S. Dogs should also be allowed to carry firearms for self defense, against "bigoted" humans.....



No, that would be self defence and only a dogslaughter charge



And in Venezuela, also run into the ground by socialists just like Spain, people are reduced to eating dogs....what charges then ?....


Dogabalism!



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