Shooting at Fed Ex hub in Indianapolis

originally posted by: jerich0

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: oloufo

In 2019, Germany had 3337 automobile deaths. The USA averages about 35,000 to 40,000 automobile deaths a year.

Should we heavily regulated car ownership?

Or, is there vast differences between other countries and the USA?

Never heard of a mass death car crash at work, or in a school, where the perp intended on killing people with a car.

Usually a car fatality is what we would call an accident.

So. The thousands killed by irresponsible cars owners don’t count. I though the argument is, “society should not have access to items that result in thousands of deaths”. Is that false?

originally posted by: beyondknowledge
a reply to: jerich0

Man bashed with golf club during home invasion

Man charged after golf club bashing ends with victim in induced coma

Not at the workplace but golf clubs seem to be quite a weapon. I would not be supprised for a workplace attack to occure with them.

The tool doesn't matter, it is the person holding the handle that makes all the difference.

Mass golf clubbings are out of control.

Mass hammer attacks are an every week occurrence.

Mass car crashings in office buildings are a terrible thing.

if only those people thought to use a gun, it'd have been so much easier. Oh well, not the tool, it's the person using it I guess.

I heard a cop just killed a 13 year old wielding a spoon, with a spork. Damns tools in the hands of wrong people.

You both know what I am saying. yes I know any thing can be a weapon. But which ones are the most efficient.

never mind, land of the free, and all.

a reply to: beyondknowledge

Just wait until driverless cars are used for car bombings. Home made homing bomb.

a reply to: neutronflux

Was the intent to kill innocent people?

Did they actively get into that car, each and every one of them? We're not talking accidental shootings here when there are 8+ people dead. We're talking intent to kill as many people as possible.

Wrong tree to climb, I believe....

a reply to: jerich0

So. Death is ok as long as it doesn’t inconvenient you.

Got it.

originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: RazorV66

the motive is still unclear, but what can be stated: there are no problems with guns in america, right? in which western country are there actually such frequent mass shootings? and why?

originally posted by: jerich0
a reply to: neutronflux

Was the intent to kill innocent people?

Did they actively get into that car, each and every one of them? We're not talking accidental shootings here when there are 8+ people dead. We're talking intent to kill as many people as possible.

Wrong tree to climb, I believe....

Coronavirus might be a completely natural pandemic that has no intent to kill, but it is a health crisis?

Don’t change the subject. Answer the question.

So. The thousands killed by irresponsible cars owners don’t count. I though the argument is, “society should not have access to items that result in thousands of deaths”. Is that false?

a reply to: jerich0
Former Walmart employee drives into store after getting fired

This one is proves it so well I will only use one this time.

originally posted by: beyondknowledge

Any of these could have been at a school when the students are arriving or leaving.

I do get your point, but even elementary school kids are smart enough to not play in the middle of the road.


To actually equate it to those videos: The teacher would have to be teaching the entire kindergarten class in the middle of the Interstate.

If people keep playing in the road, then people are gonna keep getting hit.

My point, which has obviously been ignored by some, was that there is a weekly or not more, occurrence of multiple people being shot. Not with a golf club, or a car or a baseball bat. Always a gun.

Finding a few times when someone ran down a crowd of people who were already massing around roads, doesn't count. Finding someone who beat a single person with a golf club, doesn't count.

If these events happened on the regular, I'm sure it would make more of an impact.

They don't. Every week, each day how many people are shot.

Guns are not the problem. Easy access to guns, the number of guns out of the system, and people willing and intent on using them is.

But I guess it's best to just ignore it, and let things keep getting worse. Because, any time someone says anything, they're some sort of idiot that don't respect rights or something. Life is a right, I believe. And I don't think letting everyone with a bent mind having access, or leaving the way things are with regard to how a criminal can just get a gun, is the proper way to discuss or debate it.

My bad. when feelings are hurt, people will rally around their rights as if no one else matters.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: jerich0

So. Death is ok as long as it doesn’t inconvenient you.

Got it.

What a pointless comment.

inconvenient me? what?

No death is not ok. But you keep thinking the easiest most effective way to kill as many as possible is a right.

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: jerich0
a reply to: neutronflux

Was the intent to kill innocent people?

Did they actively get into that car, each and every one of them? We're not talking accidental shootings here when there are 8+ people dead. We're talking intent to kill as many people as possible.

Wrong tree to climb, I believe....

Coronavirus might be a completely natural pandemic that has no intent to kill, but it is a health crisis?

Don’t change the subject. Answer the question.

So. The thousands killed by irresponsible cars owners don’t count. I though the argument is, “society should not have access to items that result in thousands of deaths”. Is that false?

Who said they don't count? Not me. And I don't recall making that argument either.

So, given that you are prone to making # up, I don't think answering you beyond saying read my comments better, is warranted.

originally posted by: jerich0

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: jerich0

So. Death is ok as long as it doesn’t inconvenient you.

Got it.

What a pointless comment.

inconvenient me? what?

No death is not ok. But you keep thinking the easiest most effective way to kill as many as possible is a right.

Your more likely to die in the USA by car accident than by a violent crime. Much less a mass shooting.

Now answer the question.

So. The thousands killed by irresponsible cars owners don’t count. I though the argument is, “society should not have access to items that result in thousands of deaths”. Is that false?

originally posted by: beyondknowledge
a reply to: jerich0
Former Walmart employee drives into store after getting fired

This one is proves it so well I will only use one this time.

Happens every week, too. I remember the last time I .....

a reply to: jerich0

Statistics
According to KidsAndCars.org, at least 50 children are backed over in the U.S. every week – 48 are treated in hospital emergency rooms and 2 die. In 2015, NHTSA reported 284 fatalities and 12,000 injuries occurred to backovers.*
Thousands of children are seriously injured or killed every year because a driver backing up was not able to see them behind their vehicle. Many elderly people are also backed over by vehicles.

www.kidsandcars.org...

How is the above not a health crisis more important than mass shootings?

a reply to: jerich0

You both know what I am saying. yes I know any thing can be a weapon. But which ones are the most efficient.

Most efficient? When someone looses it and decides to attack, possible use as a weapon is all that matters.

Do you want someone to try to stop an attacker trying to stab you to threaten the attacker with a spoon or a gun. You have only a second or two to answer before they use the knife on you.

a reply to: jerich0

I can only screw one screw at a time with a screw driver. Or hammer a nail with a hammer.

You dont seem to get the concept of shooting a gun. Not even the machine guns fire more then one round at a time.

Now the one descrobed here is one from 300 years ago that fires all seven barrels at once.


Something longer? More shots? This one fires seven barrels at once but you have two trigger pulls to empty it.



These are museaum guns and I don't think the average shooter would get there hands on one much less take 10 minuits to reload one.


Lets look at a Midi gun. You can think of it as a modern gatling gun with an electric motor. Still only shoots one round at a time.



Now, if you are willing to demonstrate any modern civilian available fire arm that you can make fire more than one round at the same time and holds more than two rounds of amunition, I am willing to video it from a long distance and dial 911 just after you accomplish this. You will be leaking.

I don't think you could walk into any workplace carrying any of the above fire arms without getting stopped.

a reply to: jerich0

Really? So Europe did not have a rash of mass casualty events using trucks perpetrated by terrorists ... ever? Please. They happen and have happened.