So this is very telling to me of the "Pandemic"

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: alphacenturi
a reply to: Vasa Croe

hi vasa, is it because they are pediatric, and the graph is only reflecting that?

only thing i can surmise .

Yes...it is only pediatric.....that is my point. They have 1 single death reported for 2020-2021....1 death....the odds are impossible.

Arguing with my wife about this. I say it doesn't compute. She says due to social distancing and masks.

LOL...so almost eradication to influenza deaths in pediatrics....awesome.

I will say next flu season we are going to see the biggest spike in flu deaths we have ever seen.

originally posted by: MrRCflying

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: alphacenturi
a reply to: Vasa Croe

hi vasa, is it because they are pediatric, and the graph is only reflecting that?

only thing i can surmise .

Yes...it is only pediatric.....that is my point. They have 1 single death reported for 2020-2021....1 death....the odds are impossible.

All of the numbers are controlled , tallied graphed and quantified via the CDC mate .

The odds are exactly what they need to be because they made it so , but logically yes it is impossible.

If the numbers are controlled, why would they publish something that seems so ridiculous on the surface? If you are making up numbers, make something that makes sense, and does not raise questions. That answer does not make any sense.

I'm glad you admit they are rediculous numbers , good for you making progress .

And I didn't say they made them up , I said they are controlled.

They publish them becuase it's the only way to account for the Covid-19 deaths mate , lower the Flu to a magical zero and Covid-19 can pick up the slack .

They don't care how in your face ridiculous it is as long as it all adds up.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: MrRCflying

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: alphacenturi
a reply to: Vasa Croe

hi vasa, is it because they are pediatric, and the graph is only reflecting that?

only thing i can surmise .

Yes...it is only pediatric.....that is my point. They have 1 single death reported for 2020-2021....1 death....the odds are impossible.

All of the numbers are controlled , tallied graphed and quantified via the CDC mate .

The odds are exactly what they need to be because they made it so , but logically yes it is impossible.

If the numbers are controlled, why would they publish something that seems so ridiculous on the surface? If you are making up numbers, make something that makes sense, and does not raise questions. That answer does not make any sense.

I'm glad you admit they are rediculous numbers , good for you making progress .

And I didn't say they made them up , I said they are controlled.

They publish them becuase it's the only way to account for the Covid-19 deaths mate , lower the Flu to a magical zero and Covid-19 can pick up the slack .

They don't care how in your face ridiculous it is as long as it all adds up.

So you think an extra 100 deaths really makes much of a difference in numbers? What a joke. Explain how about 100 extra pediatric deaths affects the overall numbers. That 100 becomes an extra 10,000 Covid deaths somehow? The math don't add up, sorry. So little 'slack' to pick up there, it makes no sense to move it from one row to the other.

originally posted by: MrRCflying

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: MrRCflying

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: alphacenturi
a reply to: Vasa Croe

hi vasa, is it because they are pediatric, and the graph is only reflecting that?

only thing i can surmise .

Yes...it is only pediatric.....that is my point. They have 1 single death reported for 2020-2021....1 death....the odds are impossible.

All of the numbers are controlled , tallied graphed and quantified via the CDC mate .

The odds are exactly what they need to be because they made it so , but logically yes it is impossible.

If the numbers are controlled, why would they publish something that seems so ridiculous on the surface? If you are making up numbers, make something that makes sense, and does not raise questions. That answer does not make any sense.

I'm glad you admit they are rediculous numbers , good for you making progress .

And I didn't say they made them up , I said they are controlled.

They publish them becuase it's the only way to account for the Covid-19 deaths mate , lower the Flu to a magical zero and Covid-19 can pick up the slack .

They don't care how in your face ridiculous it is as long as it all adds up.

So you think an extra 100 deaths really makes much of a difference in numbers? What a joke. Explain how about 100 extra pediatric deaths affects the overall numbers. That 100 becomes an extra 10,000 Covid deaths somehow? The math don't add up, sorry. So little 'slack' to pick up there, it makes no sense to move it from one row to the other.

Something like 9 black people dying made a difference last year so....

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: chr0naut

Feel free to provide any cdc related data to disprove what I posted or further the debate.

Outside of that, you are just positing.....

The same drop in numbers of 'flu cases has been seen worldwide. If they were lying to you in America, why would the same thing be seen in countries that are political enemies to the USA?

And since the number of deaths in a population of many tens of millions of children is numbered in the tens (the population base is six orders of magnitude greater than the number of affected), even during bad flu seasons, couldn't this just be a naturally mild season mixed with a population taking mitigating actions?

It isn't really something that unusual or unexpected, in population statistics, where the numbers tend to compound exponentially as they grow higher. I just think you are reading some significance into the insignificant.

a reply to: chr0naut

I'm sure it is being seen worldwide....I would expect nothing less.

But do you really think there was one single pediatric death from flu? Seriously....1.

It's like they just said meh....zero would be impossible so let's use 1.

a reply to: MrRCflying

Your arguing with yourself mate not me .

I don't work at the CDC , I don't draw up these graphs , I dont count the numbers .

Your trying to believe what they tell you , your trying to make it make sense and I'm sorry to tell you it simply doesn't .

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: MrRCflying

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: MrRCflying

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: alphacenturi
a reply to: Vasa Croe

hi vasa, is it because they are pediatric, and the graph is only reflecting that?

only thing i can surmise .

Yes...it is only pediatric.....that is my point. They have 1 single death reported for 2020-2021....1 death....the odds are impossible.

All of the numbers are controlled , tallied graphed and quantified via the CDC mate .

The odds are exactly what they need to be because they made it so , but logically yes it is impossible.

If the numbers are controlled, why would they publish something that seems so ridiculous on the surface? If you are making up numbers, make something that makes sense, and does not raise questions. That answer does not make any sense.

I'm glad you admit they are rediculous numbers , good for you making progress .

And I didn't say they made them up , I said they are controlled.

They publish them becuase it's the only way to account for the Covid-19 deaths mate , lower the Flu to a magical zero and Covid-19 can pick up the slack .

They don't care how in your face ridiculous it is as long as it all adds up.

So you think an extra 100 deaths really makes much of a difference in numbers? What a joke. Explain how about 100 extra pediatric deaths affects the overall numbers. That 100 becomes an extra 10,000 Covid deaths somehow? The math don't add up, sorry. So little 'slack' to pick up there, it makes no sense to move it from one row to the other.

Something like 9 black people dying made a difference last year so....

Let's hope the deaths of black people by violence is not infectious, and growing cascade of more and more affected all the time, like it is with contagions.

But, just so you can understand, in really bad 'flu years, there have been like 60 thousand deaths in the USA. Last year, there were 1/2 a million deaths from COVID-19 in the USA. Even if you misidentified all flu deaths you still haven't accounted for the rest of the roughly 420 thousand deaths beyond those 60 thousand that might have been flu.

a reply to: chr0naut

Please...post your CDC graphs of solely Covid deaths.....only covid, not a co-morbidity, just covid....

I will reply when you have this info available.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Meh... The point is mute anyway. As I said before, no one dies of influenza, they die with influenza.

Gotta run. Have fun with your circle jer... er, um, echo chamber, crying about there not being enough pediatric deaths. Sick...

originally posted by: MrRCflying
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Meh... The point is mute anyway. As I said before, no one dies of influenza, they die with influenza.

Gotta run. Have fun with your circle jer... er, um, echo chamber, crying about there not being enough pediatric deaths. Sick...

*moot

But go on with your bad self....

originally posted by: MrRCflying
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Meh... The point is mute anyway. As I said before, no one dies of influenza, they die with influenza.

Gotta run. Have fun with your circle jer... er, um, echo chamber, crying about there not being enough pediatric deaths. Sick...

So it wasn't the bullet , it was the blood loss ?

The same could be said of any virus including your precious Covid-19.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
It's like they just said meh....zero would be impossible so let's use 1.

Yet here you are pretty much saying 1 would be impossible as well.

If the number had stayed the same as previous years someone would have probably started a thread saying all the measures did nothing for flu and cv is more contagious. There is always someone.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: chr0naut

Please...post your CDC graphs of solely Covid deaths.....only covid, not a co-morbidity, just covid....

I will reply when you have this info available.

I don't need to. You keep on trying to make out that it is an impossible number.

Think of it this way, out of 140 times 'Superbowl crowds' of children in previous years, only 20 kids died of 'bad candy' back then. Now out of the same 140 crowds of kids, only one died this year of 'bad candy'. It is entirely possible and not something unbelievable.

I would think they (the CDC) are telling the truth as far as anyone could know it.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
It's like they just said meh....zero would be impossible so let's use 1.

Yet here you are pretty much saying 1 would be impossible as well.

If the number had stayed the same as previous years someone would have probably started a thread saying all the measures did nothing for flu and cv is more contagious. There is always someone.

So you believe 1 reported pediatric influenza death is real? Seriously...1. I could understand if it was reduced by 30 to 60 percent...but statistically, this is impossible.

if you explore further it shows the only flu season we didn't have elevated months in all regions was in 2020/2021 the previous 5 we always hs elevated months throughout, not only that only one region the midwest even approached elevated status briefly. On top of that, the dominating flu-type was A(H3) or A(H1N!) in all the previous 5 years in 2020/2021 it's B(lineage unspecified).

a reply to: chr0naut

You can throw whatever scenario you want out there. I posted graphs and links to what would be impossible odds for only 1 single pediatric flu death....1

And we have plenty of states that have been open since the beginning. I have been around plenty of people since the beginning. People have been traveling since the beginning.

The fact this particular number is at 1 tells me a lot.

a reply to: Vasa Croe
If only 1 happened, that would pretty much be it.

Just like those people who seem to attract lightning. So we can say that being struck by lightning more than once is statistically impossible but it really isn't.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
I am really baffled at this graph....directly from the CDC.

This shows exactly what people have been saying.....deaths are being attributed to covid that are not covid. I am a bit shocked they have this graph on their site.

www.cdc.gov...

Am I reading too much into this? Or are they behind on reporting influenza deaths? Seriously....WTF?

What if its the same bug...so technically they are not telling a Fib.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: alphacenturi
a reply to: Vasa Croe

hi vasa, is it because they are pediatric, and the graph is only reflecting that?

only thing i can surmise .

Yes...it is only pediatric.....that is my point. They have 1 single death reported for 2020-2021....1 death....the odds are impossible.

Wy would it be impossible?

All the vectors for flu spread were removed or heavily controlled. The preceeding flu season in the southern hemisphere had been a record low due to lockdown so there was no reason to expect a flu season in the northern hemisphere.

Doesn't mean the flu warrants lockdowns or closing down iunternational travel but it's a highly effective means of stopping the spread of cantagious diseases.