Did you forget the Lord's supper on 14 Nisan?

a reply to: MidnightHawk

Again, are we going by letter or spirit.

Celebrating the Passover scrupulously by the ancient Hebrew calendar calculated all the way back to when we think all this occurred is attempting to keep the letter of the law, and even then, it may not be accurate because we don't precisely know; we can only make our best guess on the exact timing of all this.

Celebrating the Passover annually as we have been commanded to is keeping the spirit of the law that Christ may not be forgotten.

This is all as nit picky as those who would condemn and brother or sister for not recognizing Yeshuah.

originally posted by: Joneselius
a reply to: MidnightHawk

Which you can give thanks for any time you want to! That's the whole point!

If you do something, do it to the glory of God. We dont need to be yoked like this.

I think I understand what you are saying. It is true that food is a gift from God. So before we eat we should show appreciation for that food and the gift God has given by thanking him for it in prayer. That also sanctifies the food. So that a Christian cannot be judged by what he eats.

In Jesus' days there were restrictions on foods because of the law. The Christian was released from the law and thus no longer under the strict observances of what he could eat, or when he could eat it as was the Jew under the Mosaic Law.

That is not what is being discussed in this thread. It is referring to the observance, or celebration of the anniversary of Christ's death.

a reply to: ketsuko

It's exactly the same!

If someone is believing in Christ with all their heart and trying, as best they can to hold onto that belief in this forsaken world, who are these people to burden them further and make them question their salvation outside of the gospel that saves!!!!
It's such HUBRIS, it really is. I tremble for these people who cause little ones to stumble and babes in Christ to fall away....

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: MidnightHawk

Again, are we going by letter or spirit.

Celebrating the Passover scrupulously by the ancient Hebrew calendar calculated all the way back to when we think all this occurred is attempting to keep the letter of the law, and even then, it may not be accurate because we don't precisely know; we can only make our best guess on the exact timing of all this.

Celebrating the Passover annually as we have been commanded to is keeping the spirit of the law that Christ may not be forgotten.

This is all as nit picky as those who would condemn and brother or sister for not recognizing Yeshuah.

No a Christian is not under obligation to celebrate the Passover. That was a Jewish celebration and a law given to the Iseralites in the Law covenant given to Moses.

Jesus himself is the one who commands his followers to observe the anniversary of his death. Read Luke 22:19.

a reply to: MidnightHawk

Then tell me WHERE in any gospel account does it say "to be saved, remember Christs anniversary of his death to be saved". Just one will suffice.

originally posted by: Joneselius
a reply to: ketsuko

It's exactly the same!

If someone is believing in Christ with all their heart and trying, as best they can to hold onto that belief in this forsaken world, who are these people to burden them further and make them question their salvation outside of the gospel that saves!!!!
It's such HUBRIS, it really is. I tremble for these people who cause little ones to stumble and babes in Christ to fall away....

I agree with you. No one should judge another person. And we should all avoid trying to stumble others! We should be as Jesus gentle and patient, and put up with one another, and freely forgive one another if a cause for complaint arises.

And if someone is worshiping wrong, God can still see his heart and see the spirit behind his worship. If he is sincere, with time and patience God will readjust such a person in a spirit of mildness.

First, I NEVER command anyone....ask my wife of 41 years.....

What I write is NOT directed at you in anyway.

I see I must spoon feed grown adults, many in their 50's and 60's and that is a damn shame to NOT know the INITIAL basics of Christianity. This is not academic this is basic 101 Christianity that all Christians are to know. To have been taught by church leaders and your parents not for ATS conspiracy site!!!!!!!!!!

Am I perfect? Hell no!

We all find something in this life that is very special whether good or bad, I have been reborn and don't ask what that means because it can NOT be defined to a few sentences. And reborn in the spirit comes with supernatural events and anyone who has a special gift should not be ashamed and hide it thinking it is evil. Is there no one on ATS can back me up on the previous sentence?

Have you experienced a real miracle? Say someone born deaf who now hears?

Has an angel visited before?

In the middle of the day you have an waking vision?

Dreams from God? Messages from God while dreaming?

Have you ever touched someone and called out to Yeshua to heal that person and the atheist is healed on the spot? (I use atheist for a reason)

Have you ever seen anyone rebuke a fever in Yeshua's name and his FATHERS name and it immediately leaves?

I know many and we walk in faith and we help and some times we have to rip the bandage off and it hurts.

You speak of the spirit so you too must be doing these things above? No? Why not? Don't you know how to walk in the spirit? Because if you could you would understand every word I spoke with clarity.

God bless

DS

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Very good my Christian sister.

OF COURSE BY SPIRIT.

Which drives me out of a love which I can not describe. And yesterday I celebrated the Lord's Supper in flesh and spirit.

originally posted by: ketsuko
Which were we commanded to do? Keep to the letter of the law ... or the spirit of it?

So which are you commanding us to do - keep to the letter of the law or its spirit?

I respect that you know the old calendar and the feast days on that calendar. But you are holding to both the letter and the spirit of the commandment.

Most do not know the old calendar. Most do not live by it. Most *do* know of the feast days and keep them though, even if they don't know the old calendar and live by it. They are keeping to the spirit, and yet you excoriate them for also not keeping to the letter.

Are you claiming your zeal and faith is less than one who would allow themselves to be nailed in truth to a cross for their faith in re-enactment of what Christ himself went through?

originally posted by: Joneselius
a reply to: MidnightHawk

Then tell me WHERE in any gospel account does it say "to be saved, remember Christs anniversary of his death to be saved". Just one will suffice.

I did not come here to argue scripture or salvation. Just to help shed light on the observance of Christ's death and his command that we do so. Read Luke 22:19. Arguing about scripture is hypocritical.

There are many that will gain salvation that never celebrated Christ's death. There are many who never even knew about Jesus Christ that will be raised from the dead and gain salvation.

But concerning Jesus' command at Luke 22:19. Remember also what he said: "The person faithful in what is least is faithful also in much, and the person unrighteous in what is least is unrighteous also in much."-Luke 16:10.

So if you really want to please God, if you are given the command to observe Jesus' death by Jesus himself, what does either being obedient or disobedient and trying to make excuses why you don't have to reveal about you to God?

This thread has nothing to do with Passover.

Yeshua and his apostles were PREPARING for the Passover. Yeshua sent an Apostle to find a room to celebrate the Passover for the following day. At the Last Supper (which has NOTHING to do with Pasover) Christ made a covenant who his followers, Deacon Eiubus (Catholic deacon at Catholic Church in Jerusalem) wrote: Peter admonished those attempting to change the Lord's Last Supper.He and other apostles agreed The Lords supper will ALWAYS be 14 Nisan and NO other date.

peace

DS

originally posted by: MidnightHawk

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: MidnightHawk

Again, are we going by letter or spirit.

Celebrating the Passover scrupulously by the ancient Hebrew calendar calculated all the way back to when we think all this occurred is attempting to keep the letter of the law, and even then, it may not be accurate because we don't precisely know; we can only make our best guess on the exact timing of all this.

Celebrating the Passover annually as we have been commanded to is keeping the spirit of the law that Christ may not be forgotten.

This is all as nit picky as those who would condemn and brother or sister for not recognizing Yeshuah.

No a Christian is not under obligation to celebrate the Passover. That was a Jewish celebration and a law given to the Iseralites in the Law covenant given to Moses.

Jesus himself is the one who commands his followers to observe the anniversary of his death. Read Luke 22:19.

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
This thread has nothing to do with Passover.

Yeshua and his apostles were PREPARING for the Passover. Yeshua sent an Apostle to find a room to celebrate the Passover for the following day. At the Last Supper (which has NOTHING to do with Pasover) Christ made a covenant who his followers, Deacon Eiubus (Catholic deacon at Catholic Church in Jerusalem) wrote: Peter admonished those attempting to change the Lord's Last Supper.He and other apostles agreed The Lords supper will ALWAYS be 14 Nisan and NO other date.

peace

DS

originally posted by: MidnightHawk

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: MidnightHawk

Again, are we going by letter or spirit.

Celebrating the Passover scrupulously by the ancient Hebrew calendar calculated all the way back to when we think all this occurred is attempting to keep the letter of the law, and even then, it may not be accurate because we don't precisely know; we can only make our best guess on the exact timing of all this.

Celebrating the Passover annually as we have been commanded to is keeping the spirit of the law that Christ may not be forgotten.

This is all as nit picky as those who would condemn and brother or sister for not recognizing Yeshuah.

I understand that. I was explaining this to another poster who was reasoning about the old law covenant that a Christian is no longer under. This was not directed to you.

No a Christian is not under obligation to celebrate the Passover. That was a Jewish celebration and a law given to the Iseralites in the Law covenant given to Moses.

Jesus himself is the one who commands his followers to observe the anniversary of his death. Read Luke 22:19.

Yes, I am aware of this. I was not directing this answer to you. It was to a poster that brought it up.

Heavenly Father,

I ask in Yeshua's name this person, MidnightHawk, who testified on behalf of Christ, in the spirit, be in the Book of Life. Father watch over your child MidnightHawk and help him/her to stay on the path that leads to you, Almighty God.

Your testimony this day will not be forgotten,

peace with you and your family

God bless you

DS

originally posted by: MidnightHawk

originally posted by: Joneselius
a reply to: MidnightHawk

Then tell me WHERE in any gospel account does it say "to be saved, remember Christs anniversary of his death to be saved". Just one will suffice.

I did not come here to argue scripture or salvation. Just to help shed light on the observance of Christ's death and his command that we do so. Read Luke 22:19. Arguing about scripture is hypocritical.

There are many that will gain salvation that never celebrated Christ's death. There are many who never even knew about Jesus Christ that will be raised from the dead and gain salvation.

But concerning Jesus' command at Luke 22:19. Remember also what he said: "The person faithful in what is least is faithful also in much, and the person unrighteous in what is least is unrighteous also in much."-Luke 16:10.

So if you really want to please God, if you are given the command to observe Jesus' death by Jesus himself, what does either being obedient or disobedient and trying to make excuses why you don't have to reveal about you to God?

a reply to: DeathSlayer

And yet you cant answer what you'll say to God when he asks why you should he allowed into the kingdom?

If you think you can heal people you're deluded. Completely deluded. Otherwise to not go into a cancer ward and heal those people is unforgivable...
The apostolic gifts have ended!
Unless you want to claim to be an apostle too.....

You're asking why people havent done this again, all works.

God can heal anyone, you can't.

This isnt a salvation issue, why are you so bitter and angry?

Answer my question!

And also answer, are you a good person?

a reply to: MidnightHawk

It reveals that I'm absolutely undeserving of anything good, which is true of me.

But the same is true of a lot of people.

Why do you fake Christians celebrate Easter? Death and resurrection of Yeshua!

A WEEK AFTER HE HAS RISEN!!!!

Why not a month later or 6 months later? This is a conspiracy site, maybe you can figure it out or research why......and find the truth!

Get out of babylon....the whore is here and alive.

originally posted by: Joneselius
a reply to: MidnightHawk

Then tell me WHERE in any gospel account does it say "to be saved, remember Christs anniversary of his death to be saved". Just one will suffice.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

Maybe you could stop being so rude and answer my question, what are you afraid of?

You're calling me a fake Christian and that should scare you but it doesn't. You're condemning me and you have no cause to, worst still, it's out of anger.

The anger of man never produces the righteousness of God.

I'm sorry if I'm coming across as divisive here but its important. Yes, you observed Christs sacrifice, you do that daily by giving thanks that way you're always on the right track, being truly thankful.

Please answer my 2 questions.

I am not rude. I am very direct in my speech. (A little bit like Sheldon Cooper on BBT)

I will clearly answer any question you have.

originally posted by: Joneselius
a reply to: DeathSlayer

Maybe you could stop being so rude and answer my question, what are you afraid of?

a reply to: DeathSlayer

Then ANSWER IT. Or are you not even reading my responses just spitting venom at me!?

OK I will answer your questions:

I think question 1 is - What will I say to God when he asks why should he allow me into his kingdom.
Are you now speaking for God or are you trying to place a trap at my feet? How do you know what God will ask me especially this question? I am curious how you came up with this particular question?

Are you not aware but the FATHER DOES NOT JUDGE..........HIS SON YESHUA DOES. You know this right? So you are asking me What will I tell Yeshua, because that is the right question. So now we have the right question.

So here is my answer, First I communicate with Yeshua everyday and he communicates with me through visions and messenger visitation and he would NEVER ask me that question. Do you know why? My daily worship and prayers cover that very question! No one is worthy EXCEPT the LAMB.

So that was easy....so on the 2nd question:

You are 100% I can NOT heal a single person, not even my own disabilities!! BUT Christ can.... it is HIM and the Holy Spirit who heal. Let every man be a liar who claims he can heal! Because I do not. Yeah I heard about the myth of NO HEALINGS after the Apostle age.....another lie.

I have witnessed many healings and so have millions, maybe billions of people over the ages....

Why these gifts no longer exist.....right? Gone with the Apostles yet one great gift still remains on this earth that I can PROVE, is the gift of faith. Not Seeing and feeling and yet a supernatural gift of God. So your basic statement of these gifts no longer available, is wrong. Any reborn Christian will tell you .......you are wrong.

Many Christians do not truly understand faith.

But back to my alleged "healings" YOU ARE CORRECT....I CAN NOT HEAL.....GOD DOES.

So I answered your questions....even though your questions were misleading..

EDIT LATER: I forgot to add....... NO I am not a good person. I watch YouTube too!

Cheap trick....... you know what I am talking about ..... the numerous Christian Youtube videos asking if you are a good person. Yes I have sinned, I was born into sin however no more, since my master forgave me and guides me daily....

originally posted by: Joneselius
a reply to: DeathSlayer

And yet you cant answer what you'll say to God when he asks why you should he allowed into the kingdom?

If you think you can heal people you're deluded. Completely deluded. Otherwise to not go into a cancer ward and heal those people is unforgivable...
The apostolic gifts have ended!
Unless you want to claim to be an apostle too.....

You're asking why people havent done this again, all works.

God can heal anyone, you can't.

This isnt a salvation issue, why are you so bitter and angry?

Answer my question!

And also answer, are you a good person?

Would you forget your father's or mother's birthday? Wouldn't it break your parent's heart?

Maybe forget the birthday of your child? Wouldn't that break the child's heart?

I wonder what Yeshua feels like.....when those he died for make cheap excuses concerning his covenant and crucifixtion as to no big deal and not partaking his covenant commandment.

Yeshua has feelings just like you and me.....except he is God and we are dust.

If I got only one person to change their way of thinking concerning the Lord's Supper and return to the truth and its importance and how it ties with Yeshua's true bride....then all this time was not wasted.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

Then go heal a cancer ward, or is your faith lacking today?

Jesus wont ask you that question eh, because of all the things you're doing now? Okay.....

You've proved yourself ey, good one.
I'm not laying a trap, theyre both Biblically grounded questions.

You say none are worthy, that includes your worship then. Also, what's this about Jesus visiting you? You must be an apostle!

Tell us what Jesus says because everything revealed by the spirit is gospel! Preach it!

Faith comes by hearing the word of God, and believing it. We already have Gods word through the scriptures, yet you get yours in visions and dreams..... Why is that?

What does Jesus say of me to you? Sincere question because if you reveal my innermost fear, I will repent of my position toward you. Sincerely

Oh and if someone forgets my birthday I'm not hurting if they're nice to me every day. I'm not that petty.