EU Reports 3,964 Killed by Covid Vaccines, 162,610 Injured

a reply to: Chadwickus

So they're taking the cdc's recommendations as it relates to the virus and applying it to the vaccine? The nerve.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: acrux

Congratulations, self determined conclusion achieved.

I used to listen to and believe Alex Jones in the early to mid 2000's when he was warning against Chem trails and the NWO Bilderberg group , I've learned who and what Alex Jones is in the years since then which is how my conclusion was achieved.

Alex Jones is a fantasist who spreads Disinformation , he does it well but that doesn't change the fact.

Then forget Alex Jones and go after the information itself. Is the info good or bad?

a reply to: TheLead

What's a voluntary EU organisation have to do with the CDC?

a reply to: Klassified

Did you not read the op?

No debating... Form your own conclusion then # off because this isn't the place for debate.

originally posted by: RAY1990

Did you not read the op?

No debating... Form your own conclusion then # off because this isn't the place for debate.

I said, I was not debating the information.

No where does it say you cannot debate the topic.

So go ahead and mass debate all you want.

a reply to: RAY1990

Click that name I responded to, you see the part that sticks out to him? They're assuming the vaccine caused some of these afflictions just as the CDC recommends doctors assume a covid diagnosis.

If it works one way, it must work both ways, no?

a reply to: Klassified

Then forget Alex Jones and go after the information itself. Is the info good or bad?

It's hard to forget AJ when he is frequently used as a source on ATS , as with any Snake oil salesman what he offers isn't what it's claimed to be.

a reply to: TheLead

I read the links, the only mention of the CDC is a link to a totally unrelated report, the only connection would be the topic covid.

The EU is on another continent to the US even then the EU is a collection of sovereign nations (I know I know) with independent health committees and organisations.

a reply to: acrux

I apologize and yay for the spirit of debate.

It's my opinion Alex Jones is a doo doo head and anything he puts his name to comes across as used loo paper being offered as some sort of script.

originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: Klassified

Did you not read the op?

No debating... Form your own conclusion then # off because this isn't the place for debate.

You don't write the T&C's. Discussion and Debate is a part of what this site was built on. Additionally, I was not talking to you, I was talking to Gortex.

ETA: Re-read your post. Missed the sarcasm first round.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Klassified

Then forget Alex Jones and go after the information itself. Is the info good or bad?

It's hard to forget AJ when he is frequently used as a source on ATS , as with any Snake oil salesman what he offers isn't what it's claimed to be.

No argument there, I have no affection or allegiance for Jones, but I try to look past him to the information. I think his source is valid in this case, but it isn't telling the whole story. See my post at the bottom of page 2.

a reply to: RAY1990

I didn't read the links and didn't suggest they have anything to do with the CDC.

I responded to a poster who has issue with the information due to the relationship between the vaccines and ailments being assumed, yet the CDC recommends assuming positive covid cases and people use their information as fact.

Do we not believe in equity anymore?

a reply to: RAY1990

Yes AJ is dubious at best and twists things for his own agenda.

Some of his info can lead to interesting revelations.

Anyway, I was just presenting this info for everyone to whome it may be of interest.

Beside most myths usually have some grain of reality that started them.

So unlike how they report COVID deaths, i.e. any death of a person who is suspected to have COVID or had a positive test for COVID is definitely counted as a COVID death.

But how do they report deaths that follow the vaccination? If a person dies hours, days or weeks following the "vaccination", is it counted as a "vaccination death"? HELL NO!

www.cdc.gov...

"FDA requires vaccination providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS.
Reports of death to VAERS following vaccination do not necessarily mean the vaccine caused the death.
CDC follows up on any report of death to request additional information and learn more about what occurred and to determine whether the death was a result of the vaccine or unrelated.
To date, VAERS has not detected patterns in cause of death that would indicate a safety problem with COVID-19 vaccines.
CDC, FDA, and other federal partners will continue to monitor the safety of COVID-19 vaccines."

Marvin Hagler died days after being vaccinated, he was in good health, but the vaccine TOTALLY had nothing to do with it.

Hank Aaron died days after being vaccinated, but the vaccine TOTALLY had nothing to do with his death.

www.newsweek.com...
Here is the spin "There are hundreds of reports of people having died after getting a COVID vaccine, but that does not necessarily mean the vaccine was the cause."

Nothing to see here.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: TheResidentAlien

Here’s a page with the list broken down...

www.pagadiandiocese.org...

And this is the actual database page..

www.adrreports.eu...

And a page on understanding reports

www.pagadiandiocese.org...

This stands out:

The information on this website relates to suspected side effects, in other words, effects that have been observed following administration of, or treatment with, a medicine. However, these suspected side effects may not be related to or caused by the medicine.

You do know the definition of the word "may" , correct ?
No ?
Here ya go :

may :

1. expressing possibility.

Defs by Google.

Yes.

That’s why I’m pointing it out.

Maybe you should mention it to the OP, and perhaps Alex Jones.

a reply to: Klassified

All suggested websites that have this "information" appear to be setups. There does not appear to be any credibility that I can see on them whatsoever.

That global research website only appears to be set up to sell e-books to conspiracy nuts. No phone numbers and "staff" using yahoo email addresses? The other "organization" websites that were linked also have no legitimate contact information.

All smells about as legit as Nigerian prince offering you his fortune.

originally posted by: TheResidentAlien
a reply to: Klassified

All suggested websites that have this "information" appear to be setups. There does not appear to be any credibility that I can see on them whatsoever.

That global research website only appears to be set up to sell e-books to conspiracy nuts. No phone numbers and "staff" using yahoo email addresses? The other "organization" websites that were linked also have no legitimate contact information.

All smells about as legit as Nigerian prince offering you his fortune.

I think you missed a few links in the article itself that take you directly to the purveyors of the original information. The link I posted was to an article with the following links provided in the body of the text. As always, one must decide for themselves.
EudraVigilance
European Medicines Agency

originally posted by: acrux
EU Reports 3,964 Killed by Covid Vaccines, 162,610 Injured

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This link is from INFOWARS.

I don't care what you think of Alex Jones.

I am not here to debate the link or information contained within.

I just wanted to bring this to everybodies attention.

Relevent information is contained within first 5-10 minutes of video.

Nearly 4000 dead, over 160,000 other related situations due to covid vaccines, and this is only European figures.

DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS

When a brand new medicine skips the usual testing protocols, the result is a larger number of deaths and complications.

Especially a vaccine that uses man-made ingredients.

I certainly hope those who have had Covid-19 are not subjecting themselves to the vaccination.

The antibodies in recovered individuals have proven to be better than 99% effective in preventing a second recurrence of Covid-19.

a reply to: acrux

I ain't one to devote time in watching videos, nor am I an AJ fag. But,
I have on occasion seen many reports of people even celebrities bite the big one following a VAX to fight against this new strain of the common cold which is utterly and thoroughly manufactured fear porn, based on survival rate...

Seeing how you get flack right off the bat from Mr phage is telling...

When he submits to the jab I'd encourage him to document it here.

So many people are so quick to judge. The problem with judging is it shuts you off from learning. Whatever AJ is, it does not immediately discount every thing he talks about, this idea is extremely short sided and is tantamount to throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

There are many speaking out all over the world and at no other point in my life have I seen such censorship on a global scale. I wonder why? A conspiracy theorist used to be few and far between, now it seems as about half of the population has become one.

Exclusive: Former Pfizer VP to AFLDS: ‘Entirely possible this will be used for massive-scale depopulation’
www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com...

America’s Frontline Doctors (AFLDS) spoke to former Pfizer Vice President and Chief Science Officer Dr. Mike Yeadon about his views on the COVID-19 vaccine, hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, the regulatory authorities, and more.

At the outset, Dr. Yeadon said “I’m well aware of the global crimes against humanity being perpetrated against a large proportion of the worlds population.

“I feel great fear, but I’m not deterred from giving expert testimony to multiple groups of able lawyers like Rocco Galati in Canada and Reiner Fuellmich in Germany.

“I have absolutely no doubt that we are in the presence of evil (not a determination I’ve ever made before in a 40-year research career) and dangerous products.

“In the U.K., it’s abundantly clear that the authorities are bent on a course which will result in administering ‘vaccines’ to as many of the population as they can. This is madness, because even if these agents were legitimate, protection is needed only by those at notably elevated risk of death from the virus. In those people, there might even be an argument that the risks are worth bearing. And there definitely are risks which are what I call ‘mechanistic’: inbuilt in the way they work.

“But all the other people, those in good health and younger than 60 years, perhaps a little older, they don’t perish from the virus. In this large group, it’s wholly unethical to administer something novel and for which the potential for unwanted effects after a few months is completely uncharacterized.

“In no other era would it be wise to do what is stated as the intention.

I will also link this here, this is a 73 page document making its' way around

EVIDENCE OF COVID-19 VACCINE INJURIES & DEATHS
thegrumpyowl.co.uk...

Many people believe that since the short term safety studies involving tens of thousands of participants did not show severe adverse reactions, then the unlicensed but authorized for emergency use vaccines for COVID-19 must be safe. But many licensed vaccines that went through clinical trials have been found to cause injury and even been recalled after the fact. Some examples are below.

Keep in mind that most of the information presented below comes from mainstream sources, which we can expect to underestimate the harm caused by vaccines. In fact, there is an argument to be made that every vaccine produces harm even though the damage may only manifest years later and appear unconnected to the vaccine. Also, calling these gene therapy injections “vaccines” is just a way to take advantage of the indemnity extended to vaccines so the manufacturers can’t be sued. Remember that all of the chronic and auto-immune diseases wreaking havoc on us and fueling the trillion-dollar pharmaceutical industry can be found among the “side effects” of the inserts packaged with every vaccine. It’s a classic racket: profiting off of problems you create. (If you want to share this document with friends or family but believe this statement is too radical for them, here is a link to a slightly more palatable version.)