WashPost lies about Sidney Powell, her Voter Fraud Court Claims

a reply to: bastion

From page 51 of the document reference in the article that the “Labourer” wrote - the piece that you say is based on fiction.

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“Id. “In fact, she believed the allegations then and she believes them now.”

It says “IN FACT”
It is a court document.

But go ahead and shoot the messenger if you can’t refute the message

originally posted by: NorthOfStuff
a reply to: bastion

From page 51 of the document reference in the article that the “Labourer” wrote - the piece that you say is based on fiction.

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“Id. “In fact, she believed the allegations then and she believes them now.”

It says “IN FACT”
It is a court document.

But go ahead and shoot the messenger if you can’t refute the message

It also says that "no reasonable person would believe it as a statement of fact'.

"No reasonable person"

Its is a court document.

But go ahead and believe two contradictory things before breakfast.

a reply to: rnaa

“In fact, she believed the allegations then and she believes them now.”

"no reasonable person would believe it as a statement of fact".

Is that what you're getting at?

Sidney is just saying reasonable people believe others are "innocent until proven guilty" in court.

Until the claims she made see their day in court and are proven true or false, they can't possibly have any impact on Dominion's reputation. Therefore the lawsuit is frivolous.

Dominion would have to prove that reasonable people don't believe others are "innocent until proven guilty". They can't.

Case closed.

a reply to: More1ThanAny1

Sidney is just saying reasonable people believe others are "innocent until proven guilty" in court.

No, that is not what she is saying.

In any case, "innocent until proven guilty" is relevant in criminal proceedings. This is not that. Civil cases are more complicated.

originally posted by: NorthOfStuff
a reply to: bastion

From page 51 of the document reference in the article that the “Labourer” wrote - the piece that you say is based on fiction.

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“Id. “In fact, she believed the allegations then and she believes them now.”

It says “IN FACT”
It is a court document.

But go ahead and shoot the messenger if you can’t refute the message

I don't see your point. That's a seperate section detailing the malice defence. Section 3 covers the protected speech defence stating 'no reasonable person would believe her as it was all political hyperbole' - it's a very rare defence and admission the person has no credibility hence why it was covered by most news orgs -- If the author was an actual journo he'd understand the news values and reasons why court reporters have to be highly trained and acreddited.

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The website is odd. It's trying to present itself as a news site despite all the content being plagiarised from other websites (mainly Gateway Pundit and Daily Beast) which is the biggest crime in journalism. Even the worst of news amalgamation/churnalism sites credit and link to the original website and journalist who wrote the piece.

For example this piece link is stolen from counter punch here link- with the only changes being deleting the name of the person who wrote the original

They even steal the pictures/photo used in original copy.

All the content is re-posted by Admin15-log - dateway.net...

Normally any MSM, alt-news or citizen journalism site has an about section detailing the journalists, sub editors, editors, proprietors, ethics etc... this has none of that and it doesn't appear on any database online. It seems to have been set up for the sole purpose of spreading false info on facebook in the run up to last years election.

Why does this remind me of People V Larry Flynt?

a reply to: Phage

No, that is exactly what she is saying. If you want to lie to yourself and everyone around you to feel better, go for it.

I don't blame you, because how else does one cope with the idea that a private company with a shady unknown background run by unelected citizens could so easily and unquestionably slide into US politics, and ultimately take dominion over it.

I understand why you would lie to yoursef. It's hard to believe that the world's most powerful country could be conquered with software that runs on insecure Windows 10 and written in C# which is one of the most insecure languages. Software that should do little more than increment numbers in a dictionary, but instead is over engineered into a security nightmare, likely on purpose.

It is difficult to fathom that without feeling uncomfortable, and we all know you don't want to be uncomfortable.

That kashoghi feller wrote crap disinfo for wapo...

syrious!

BS artists should be rounded up and vaccinated with a truth serum?

a reply to: Klassified

Embarrassing, I'm sure, being made duped for years by Trump and his minions, only to hear one of them now state in her legal defence what every reasonable person always knew: that her claims were imaginative lies made up to fool to stupidest people in America.

The rest of us always knew that. And seeing you react like this isn't exactly making you look any smarter. It looks more like you're doubling down on proving her right.

a reply to: Phage

Yes.

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Klassified

Embarrassing, I'm sure, being made duped for years by Trump and his minions, only to hear one of them now state in her legal defence what every reasonable person always knew: that her claims were imaginative lies made up to fool to stupidest people in America.

The rest of us always knew that. And seeing you react like this isn't exactly making you look any smarter. It looks more like you're doubling down on proving her right.

In this case Mr. Blake intentionally took the words of Powell's attorneys out of context. That much is clear and shows that as a journalist, he has no integrity. Not that it should surprise anyone. The words journalist and integrity are opposites. As I think you are well aware, the media in the U.S. is mostly state propaganda. They will have you believing Gilligan's Island was a documentary.

Whatever you may think of Trump as an individual, he was probably the best president this country has seen in my life time. Did he say and do some stupid things? Sure did. Enough that I wanted to slap him on more than one occasion, but the U.S. prospered under his administration, which is more than I can say for the present administration.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, but that's nothing new for us. Good to see you chime in. Don't be a stranger. There's always room for a dissenting opinion around here.

a reply to: Klassified

As I think you are well aware, the media in the U.S. is mostly state propaganda.

I am aware of no such thing. American media are not the world's freest -- the country currently ranks 45th out of 180 in RSF's annual World Press Freedom index -- but they are pretty free and the threats to them, especially in the Trump era, were from the state. The US media are far from being state mouthpieces or lapdogs.

I have lived in countries where the media, or sections of it, are like that. US media bear no resemblance to them whatsoever. It is a claim no reasonable person could possibly believe.

Trump... was probably the best president this country has seen in my life time

Another statement no reasonable person could possibly believe. He was the worst president since Herbert Hoover; professional historians rate him as the worst president in the history of the Union.

So, counting the thread topic, you have now made at least three statements no reasonable person could believe. Pardon me for drawing the obvious, reasonable conclusion.

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Klassified

As I think you are well aware, the media in the U.S. is mostly state propaganda.

I am aware of no such thing. American media are not the world's freest -- the country currently ranks 45th out of 180 in RSF's annual World Press Freedom index -- but they are pretty free and the threats to them, especially in the Trump era, were from the state. The US media are far from being state mouthpieces or lapdogs.

I have lived in countries where the media, or sections of it, are like that. US media bear no resemblance to them whatsoever. It is a claim no reasonable person could possibly believe.

Trump... was probably the best president this country has seen in my life time

Another statement no reasonable person could possibly believe. He was the worst president since Herbert Hoover; professional historians rate him as the worst president in the history of the Union.

So, counting the thread topic, you have now made at least three statements no reasonable person could believe. Pardon me for drawing the obvious, reasonable conclusion.

I presume that you are the self appointed one to define the term "reasonable"? Do I need to bow in your presence?

a reply to: Rich Z

I presume that you are the self appointed one to define the term "reasonable"?

No, Sydney Powell already did that. Haven’t you been paying attention?

Do I need to bow in your presence?

Not necessary. Just keep a decent silence, watch and try to learn.

a reply to: Astyanax

So, counting the thread topic, you have now made at least three statements no reasonable person could believe. Pardon me for drawing the obvious, reasonable conclusion.

Only three? Damn! Give me a few minutes, I'm sure I can come up with a few more.

I am aware of no such thing. American media are not the world's freest -- the country currently ranks 45th out of 180 in RSF's annual World Press Freedom index -- but they are pretty free and the threats to them, especially in the Trump era, were from the state. The US media are far from being state mouthpieces or lapdogs.

i'm sure the RSF is a beacon of light and a paragon of virtue, but they and you are wrong. Yes, Trump voiced his displeasure with the liberal press multiple times, but he never tried to cancel them, which is more than I can say for the left in this country.

Another statement no reasonable person could possibly believe. He was the worst president since Herbert Hoover; professional historians rate him as the worst president in the history of the Union.

Professional historians? Really? Their qualifications are no better than yours or mine to decide who is the best or worst. Personally, I'd have to go with Woodrow Wilson or Barry Soetoro.

I think the unreasonable claims and beliefs are coming from the much farther left than me side of this exchange.
You get the last word. I don't think we're going to find a common ground on this one.

Without Cherry Picking and taking statements out of Context -
MSM Spin is distorting the Facts of the full court document -
.... just an effort to sway the sleeping "Public" opinion

a reply to: Klassified

Only three? Damn! Give me a few minutes, I'm sure I can come up with a few more.

And so you have.

Trump voiced his displeasure with the liberal press multiple times, but he never tried to cancel them

False

Professional historians? Really? Their qualifications are no better than yours or mine to decide who is the best or worst.

Magnificent. Yahooism at its finest.

Your post is deaf and blind to reality, full of absurd false assertions no reasonable person could believe, and a well-deserved rebuke to me for wasting my time on you. Bye!

a reply to: Klassified

Yes, Trump voiced his displeasure with the liberal press multiple times, but he never tried to cancel them, which is more than I can say for the left in this country.

Yeah. But not for a lack of desire to do so. Thing is, there was no way to pull their licenses based on irritating him.
www.reuters.com...
bipartisanreport.com...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Klassified

Yes, Trump voiced his displeasure with the liberal press multiple times, but he never tried to cancel them, which is more than I can say for the left in this country.

Yeah. But not for a lack of desire to do so. Thing is, there was no way to pull their licenses based on irritating him.
www.reuters.com...
bipartisanreport.com...

I was thinking of cancel culture, but I'll concede in at least some instances, there isn't a lot of difference, so I stand corrected. Nevertheless, I think he was justified in others and didn't try hard enough.

I read yours too Asty.