So, What Vaccine Are The Chinese Using?

How many have wondered what the Chinese are doing on the vaccination front? I cannot find much data but did find a recent article that appears to reflect that they are using what we would call "old style" conventional vaccine with killed viruses while we in the West are using these experimental mRNA and DNA spike protein producing vaccines.

Anyone have any additional data?

apnews.com...

The bulk of Chinese shots are from Sinovac and Sinopharm, which both rely on a traditional technology called an inactivated virus vaccine, based on cultivating batches of the virus and then killing it. Some countries view it as safer than the newer, less-proven technology used by some Western competitors that targets the coronavirus’ spike protein, despite publicly available safety data for the Pfizer, Moderna and AstraZeneca vaccines and none for China’s.

“The choice was made for this vaccine because it is developed on a traditional and safe inactivated platform,” said Teymur Musayev, an official with the Ministry of Health in Azerbaijan, which has ordered 4 million Sinovac doses.

a reply to: infolurker

I've wondered why the West is using "new technology", the mRNA approach (viral vector is apparently not as untested, but still "new" compared to inactivated virus method, I believe.

a reply to: infolurker

This isn't really additional information, but this article from last night about the Digital Vaccine Passports says something similar.

As a result of the different approaches, there is also the question of whether your vaccine passport will actually be accepted wherever you plan to visit. In some cases, countries will only recognize proof of vaccination if you'd received one of the approved vaccines for that country.

China, for example, has said that visitors should receive one of the vaccines manufactured in that country. That means that if you received the Moderna, Pfizer, or Johnson & Johnson vaccines--the three used in the US as of now--you're out of luck.

a reply to: infolurker

The FDA has just licensed a vaccine from Johnson & Johnson that requires just one shot and works in a more traditional way , like the Chinese vaccine.

The Johnson & Johnson vaccine uses a common cold virus that has been engineered to make it harmless.

It then safely carries part of the coronavirus's genetic code into the body. This is enough for the body to recognise the threat and then learn to fight coronavirus.

This trains the body's immune system to fight coronavirus when it encounters the virus for real.
www.bbc.co.uk...

a reply to: infolurker

The same formula that is been used by the pharmas around the world is the same formula china developed, nobody until this day have a record of how many china have injected, side effects, deaths or anything else because they are not talking, but is a lot of money going to china from the injections that are been used all over the world plus they have rights for certain markets or lets say countries.

How China stands to profit from the coronavirus pandemic

www.foxbusiness.com...

a reply to: gortex

Not quite... it is not dead SarsCov2, it is just a related virus that has DNA inserted to "create" spike proteins once inside us from what I have read. It appears a hell of a lot safer than the mRNA but still concentrates on the spike protein only.

a reply to: gortex
Are you sure the word 'licenced' was actually used in the link you provided?

Watch out for words.....they are very deceptive.

How many people have died 'with' covid?
How many people died 'of' covid?

a reply to: gortex
Vaccinating the UK: how the covid vaccine was approved, and other questions answered | The BMJ
www.bmj.com...

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: gortex

Not quite... it is not dead SarsCov2, it is just a related virus that has DNA inserted to "create" spike proteins once inside us from what I have read. It appears a hell of a lot safer than the mRNA but still concentrates on the spike protein only.

There is no DNA in any of these vaccines. That’s because the SarsCov2 virus is an RNA virus. It does not use DNA to replicate itself; it has no DNA in it. The vaccines insert mRNA into us to create the spike proteins directly, totally bypassing the DNA step.

Because there is no DNA in either the virus or the vaccine, neither the virus nor the vaccine can alter the human genome, which is constructed of DNA.

"used by some Western competitors"......capish ?.....COMPETITORS.......get it....its all been a Global sales-job....a sickening contrived sales-job.

a reply to: 1947boomer

How the Johnson & Johnson Vaccine Works

www.nytimes.com...

The Johnson & Johnson vaccine is based on the virus’s genetic instructions for building the spike protein. But unlike the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, which store the instructions in single-stranded RNA, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine uses double-stranded DNA.

Adenovirus-based vaccines for Covid-19 are more rugged than mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna. DNA is not as fragile as RNA, and the adenovirus’s tough protein coat helps protect the genetic material inside. As a result, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine can be refrigerated for up to three months at 36–46°F (2–8°C).

The adenovirus pushes its DNA into the nucleus. The adenovirus is engineered so it can’t make copies of itself, but the gene for the coronavirus spike protein can be read by the cell and copied into a molecule called messenger RNA, or mRNA.

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: infolurker

I've wondered why the West is using "new technology", the mRNA approach (viral vector is apparently not as untested, but still "new" compared to inactivated virus method, I believe.

The people are the "test tubes"
Come up with a more difficult question to answer.

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: 1947boomer

How the Johnson & Johnson Vaccine Works

www.nytimes.com...

The Johnson & Johnson vaccine is based on the virus’s genetic instructions for building the spike protein. But unlike the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, which store the instructions in single-stranded RNA, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine uses double-stranded DNA.

Adenovirus-based vaccines for Covid-19 are more rugged than mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna. DNA is not as fragile as RNA, and the adenovirus’s tough protein coat helps protect the genetic material inside. As a result, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine can be refrigerated for up to three months at 36–46°F (2–8°C).

The adenovirus pushes its DNA into the nucleus. The adenovirus is engineered so it can’t make copies of itself, but the gene for the coronavirus spike protein can be read by the cell and copied into a molecule called messenger RNA, or mRNA.

Well , that lays that anti-conspiracy to rest.

This made me think about how many are dieing in china.
chinas make army power is the numbers.
two more years of this and us or ussr could walk over them.
take Tibet.

a reply to: infolurker

Sinovax's CoronaVac.

It is a whole 'inactivated' virus vaccine, like the old types. Not an mRNA vaccine.

China first approved it in late August last year for frontline medical staff, making it the first COVID-19 vaccine to be in use outside of trials.

CoronaVac
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Perhaps the level of ignorance about the vaccine developed in China relates to the racial stereotyping that has been applied against China as if they had willfully dispensed the virus. And the embarrassment that those vilified Chinese had a working solution well before any other country.

a reply to: chr0naut

Someone is taking up the current MSM programming quite well.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: chr0naut

Someone is taking up the current MSM programming quite well.

The MSM have barely mentioned he Chinese vaccines, despite the trials and roll-outs happening in the Americas, Europe, and Pacific nations.

So, I agree, someone is taking up the current MSM programming.

originally posted by: buddha
This made me think about how many are dieing in china.
chinas make army power is the numbers.
two more years of this and us or ussr could walk over them.
take Tibet.

Both the US and the USSR are affected similarly by COVID-19.

The difference is China's strict policies, applied early on in the epidemic, have limited the deaths and the epidemic spread. This is the same in other countries that have limited the spread of the contagion, which they have done without reliance on a vaccine.

I'm assuming it would be the Chinese Sinovac vaccine, but I don't know that for certain. en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: chr0naut

Someone is taking up the current MSM programming quite well.

Oh, and there is the Russian 'Sputnik V' vaccine, too that was approved for use in Russia from December 2020. Where was all the MSM noise about that?