The Rapture will be mistaken as an Alien Invasion

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Raggedyman
I am not forcing you to agree with me
Don’t
I stated what my issue with the rapture is, disagree away

It isn't a matter of just disagreeing. History has proven that people don't lose their faith because the rapture didn't happen in their lifetime.

No need to get snippy because you can't argue against that.

Snippy snippy
I don’t care what you think, don’t think history proves anything either
We disagree, tough

Snippy snippy, I don’t care if you agree with me or not, I think the rapture is a silly baseless teaching

a reply to: one4all

You said you were one of the 144 thousand, well maybe you are but
If you are then

I didn’t make a claim I was from the 144 thousand or I was a virgin or I am Jewish. I am neither and not claiming any of it, just saying that if anyone does claim they are from the
144 thousand
They need to be
Jewish
And
Virgin

That’s all, that’s is what you claimed and I am qualifying if you are actually a Jew and a virgin
That’s all

If you are great, if not then you should reconsider your feelings

originally posted by: Raggedyman
I don’t care what you think, don’t think history proves anything either
We disagree, tough

You certainly have not shown that people lose faith if the rapture doesn't happen in their lifetime.

The fact seems to be that nobody is expecting that, so it wouldn't be a reason for a loss of faith.

Snippy snippy, I don’t care if you agree with me or not, I think the rapture is a silly baseless teaching

Even if it is, that still doesn't support your original claim.

a reply to: daskakik

That’s great Das
No biggy, you disagree, that’s awesome
I am not saying I am right, could well be wrong on the rapture and people losing their faith, could be nothing
Or I could be right

The reason I think I am right is because we just about have a whole church who believes Gods purpose is to serve them, gifts, finances, healings, the more money you tithe the greater Gods blessing, the greater God will love you.
That’s Gods sole desire is blessing the Christians, the false prophets who teach lies of self over service

I could be wrong but, that’s my opinion, please, you don’t have to share it with me, I am not forcing it on you. We can agree to,disagree, politely
Then move on like two snippy snappy adults

originally posted by: Raggedyman
That’s great Das
No biggy, you disagree, that’s awesome
I am not saying I am right, could well be wrong on the rapture and people losing their faith, could be nothing
Or I could be right

History has proven you wrong.

The reason I think I am right is because we just about have a whole church who believes Gods purpose is to serve them, gifts, finances, healings, the more money you tithe the greater Gods blessing, the greater God will love you.
That’s Gods sole desire is blessing the Christians, the false prophets who teach lies of self over service

That is a strawman argument.

Your original claim wasn't about christians serving, it was just about people losing faith if the rapture doesn't happen.

I could be wrong but, that’s my opinion, please, you don’t have to share it with me, I am not forcing it on you. We can agree to,disagree, politely

Like I said, it isn't a matter of agreeing or not. How many people do you know that have lost faith because the rapture hasn't happened?

a reply to: daskakik

You are right Das, you win
I don’t care enough

Since when did you become a fundamentalist Evangelical Christian? Normally you’re usually talking about our universe being a simulation or factoring consciousness into the universe....WTF happened!? a reply to: neoholographic

I thought rapture already happened and we were left here

a reply to: neoholographic

and what if we mistake an alien invasion for rapture what then?

*Eyebrows shoot up so high that the ceiling gets slightly hairier*
The Rapture? Seriously? Isn't that deeply iffy, and I speak as an atheist, so I'm hardly an expert?

Imagine if all the stories, numerological values, parables, poetry, and prophesy found in your Bible represent symbolic language and allegory, not to define a capricious deity, but is a mirror image of what takes place within man's consciousness.

I wish you well waiting for a rapture. In my understanding, a thousand years from now, many will still be
waiting if they continue using a literal/historical context in place of the metaphorical.

Origen of Alexandria came to the understanding just as the writing states..

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto
him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Until that awareness arrives, religion will continue to read the Bible as natural.

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: one4all

Lets just say it did not look to work out to well for a the Buddhist monks and they are very spiritual people.

We work with the tools we create and have at our disposable, our larger brain to body weight capacity, and the opposable appendages helping in that area.

Alone is lonely one4all, and we are a very social animal.

"One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do
Two can be as bad as one
It's the loneliest number since the number one"

Anyhoo you have yourself a good evening.

You were Born alone and you will Die alone.....those are the only 2 sureties we recieve in our Lifetimes....so One is the Number you better get used to ... just saying.

You are repeatedly referring to Self-Immolation in the same manner...when I have clearly referenced that there are other ways to interpret and action that concept.....and that I was in fact projecting one of those interpretations alternative to the one you are stuck upon.

We work with the Tools we have learned to understand...we as individuals "create" very little....we Learn a lot however.....if you only worked with the tools "you" could create to have tools at your disposal you probably would not have made it to the Fork and Spoon stage of Human development yet.....

We teach each other about leverage and projection of intention through the use of tools .... which we TEACH EACH OTHER ABOUT......lol....lol.....brain to body weight and appendage specifics are not Show Stoppers.....because.....we can Teach each other things which our short lifespans and proxy experience envelopes would never allow us to Physically embrace or experience.

We work with the cumulative Tools ALL OF HUMANITY have co-created together as one continuous connected Group....and this is exactly what we will project into the future.

And it all starts with the number....one.

You decide if the impact of that lifetime will benefit One or All...its your own free-will choice....but you have to own it as an individual....as One.....before you can do anything with it.

An, interesting outlook, but it seems a bit self serving, hardly the quality of the chosen who are on the level of Christ/Buddha in their spiritual journey. It’s fine to have some kind of Jesus complex, and I greatly enjoy the further insight into your delusions of grandeur.

originally posted by: MrBlaq
Imagine if all the stories, numerological values, parables, poetry, and prophesy found in your Bible represent symbolic language and allegory, not to define a capricious deity, but is a mirror image of what takes place within man's consciousness.

I wish you well waiting for a rapture. In my understanding, a thousand years from now, many will still be
waiting if they continue using a literal/historical context in place of the metaphorical.

Origen of Alexandria came to the understanding just as the writing states..

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto
him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Until that awareness arrives, religion will continue to read the Bible as natural.

i am totally in agreement...
the 'Rapture' will not be an emptying of graves or physical bodies becoming digital clouds of fluff (Ala Star-Trek transporter)

just so much poetic imagery

Quick get David Icke on the phone, the reptilians are coming!

The Bible also said Noah lived for 800 years and put two of every animal on a boat, yeah given there are tens of thousands of species, good luck with that.

Aesop's fables are more believable than the Bible.

‘Now as far as the "rapture." If you read scripture you will understand that those who are called to reign in heaven have to leave their physical bodies behind. During Christ's return he calls them from death where they are now sleeping, and will be raised in immortal spirit bodies just as Jesus Christ and his Father Jehovah God have.’

This is concerning, is cremation out of the question in order to ascend?

a reply to: DougHole64

God can and will provide a spirtual body for any who were cremated or those whose bodies were not intact at burial.
God who created the universe has power beyond human understanding, we err in limiting Him.

originally posted by: justdust
a reply to: DougHole64

God can and will provide a spirtual body for any who were cremated or those whose bodies were not intact at burial.
God who created the universe has power beyond human understanding, we err in limiting Him.

Thank you, Justdust, this has often played on my mind.

On one of the numerous Rapture dates awhile back I'd jokingly called a friend to tease her about still being here. Her phones just rang that morning. When she got back to me she explained she'd been at Walmart.

OMG!!! You got Raptured to Walmart???!!!!"
...and that is how legacy jokes become forever...

originally posted by: neoholographic
I believe the Rapture will be mistaken as an Alien Invasion.

There's more chance of the bible being influenced by Aliens that it ever being influenced by so called "god".

a reply to: Debunkology

God is outside of space and time and interacts with us in ways we can understand. So it might be through a garden, bush or U.F.O.

For instance, God didn't have to carry out a surgery on Adam, but he did. He did this because people today would recognize the procedure.

Genesis 2:21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

If you just watch medical dramas on TV, you would see this procedure.

Think about it, God could have Created Eve like He did Adam but what did He do?

He caused adam to go into a deep sleep first. We see this in surgery with anesthesia.



He then took out one of Adam's ribs. This is the actual surgery.



Then he did something quite remarkable. HE CLOSED UP THE FLESH.

You hear after surgery. Close him/her up.

Surgical wound care - closed

An incision is a cut through the skin made during surgery. It is also called a "surgical wound." Some incisions are small. Others are very long. The size of an incision depends on the kind of surgery you had.

To close your incision, your doctor used one of the following:

Stitches (sutures)
Clips
Staples
Skin glue

Proper wound care can help prevent infection and reduce scarring as your surgical wound heals.

medlineplus.gov...

So God carried out surgery on Adam for our benefit. We will easily recognize the procedure.