Under Biden, The Military Is Launching Political Attacks

originally posted by: schuyler
The so-called "military attack" was after Tucker Carlson made fun of military uniforms for pregnant members. This had nothing to do with "Policy decisions." It had to do with a member of the press being a sexist pig and getting called out on it.

Id like to understand exactly what you Think Tucker said that was sexist. I watched that segment and can't understand your position. Can you clarify?

originally posted by: 38181

originally posted by: Cancerwarrior
As a veteran who served from 95-04 as an Abrams crewman, this snip disgusts me.

In fact, UCMJ dictates that anyone espousing politics (for either side) as an enlisted soldier is likely to be brought up for court martial and/or discharge under less than honorable conditions.

Of course, as an individual, I had my own opinions and such, but no soldier should ever spew those views to the MSM or the public via social media.

The Communists are having quite a laugh with all of this I imagine.

Yes, and the fact that the military leaders tell its subordinates not to post political crap on social media of face consequences of the UCMJ. Yet the higher ups are breaking their very own rules! What the heck is going on!

You say that like commissioned officers haven't been doing that # for decades.

originally posted by: ratcals

originally posted by: Lumenari


Military members are bound by oath to not have a public political opinion.

Why do you not know anything about any topic but still post an opinion on it?

/facepalm

This is not true at all. The military is exactly entitled to have a public political opinion. They're even allowed to participate in political protests. The caveat is they can't be in uniform.

This is true. The rule on my ship was don't talk politics at work. Talk politics at the bar afterwards.

That didn't necessarily mean we didn't have to listen to the chiefs and officers talking politics all the damn time. Just that most of us enlisted scum couldn't voice our opinion because we refused to "polish brass."

I've been saying on here for since the conservative purges began in the military that you cannot trust the US Armed forces anymore.

The Tucker Carlson controversy is a clear example of why.

originally posted by: Lumenari
Military members are bound by oath to not have a public political opinion.

The President, Vice President, Congress and the US Supreme Court are bound by oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States".

We can see how well that is going.

a reply to: Majic

Thank you!

The military is supposed to be apolitical. But this is not to say they can't set the record straight from time to time.

There was a California high school teacher a few years back that was badmouthing service members to a kid who's dad was a Marine. He was saying that military members are all stupid highschool dropouts and a bunch of beer drinking hillbilly bubbas too dumb for academia or higher function work.

Then TRADOC Commander set him straight with military education statistics and an invitation to see how the military does things. It became a huge national story for a couple of weeks. The TRADOC Commander did the right thing, he was not political about it, and was not petty.

This is a totally different thing. This is a partisan response to criticism of military policy as envisioned by the civilian leadership of the United States.

Everyone involved should be article 15'd at the very least and officers GOMOR'd.

originally posted by: schuyler
The so-called "military attack" was after Tucker Carlson made fun of military uniforms for pregnant members. This had nothing to do with "Policy decisions." It had to do with a member of the press being a sexist pig and getting called out on it.

So military intimidation to infringe on free speech is fine?

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: infolurker

Under Biden, the military is launching political attacks to intimidate Tucker Carlson & other civilians who criticize their policy decisions.

So the military setting the record straight when talking heads are spouting nonsense to keep their viewers engaged is “launching a political attack”.

Uh huh.

Military members are bound by oath to not have a public political opinion.

Why do you not know anything about any topic but still post an opinion on it?

/facepalm

No, that is not how that works,

LOL.

Military members are forbidden from expressing political views in a way that implies their individual beliefs are the beliefs of the Military.

Military members correcting public lies is not a political view.

a reply to: infolurker

I been following this story, since when our Military leaders have been given dictatorial powers, this incredible, they should stick with what they are supposed to do, protect the nation and its citizens specially our constitutional rights and one of them is freedom of speech, but it seems that in communist countries the military enforce the dictator power to kill that freedom.

Go back to your military bases and stick to the job you know best, politics is not one of them.

originally posted by: 38181
What the heck is going on!

Its obviously just my opinion, and what do I know, but..

I think we are up against a borderless nation that has spent decades of resources & effort into 4th and 5th gen warfare.

This is cemented by compromised information channels like media, facebook, and real-time manipulation through algorithms.

In order to succeed in this modern war, the more traditional aspects of society need to be weakened and eventually dismantled. This includes everything from social interactions and behavior to the military, education, & infrastructure.

China is a bit of a red herring nd distraction, but that doesnt mean they should be ignored. Folks should look into all the groups and orgs that are pushing Sustainable Development Goals. Spoiler alert: they dont actually care about sustainability beyond the pretty marketing.

originally posted by: AutomateThis1

originally posted by: ratcals

originally posted by: Lumenari


Military members are bound by oath to not have a public political opinion.

Why do you not know anything about any topic but still post an opinion on it?

/facepalm

This is not true at all. The military is exactly entitled to have a public political opinion. They're even allowed to participate in political protests. The caveat is they can't be in uniform.

This is true. The rule on my ship was don't talk politics at work. Talk politics at the bar afterwards.

That didn't necessarily mean we didn't have to listen to the chiefs and officers talking politics all the damn time. Just that most of us enlisted scum couldn't voice our opinion because we refused to "polish brass."

The OP here said “bound by oath”. Having a rule on a boat IS NOT the same as bound by oath.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Once the military has become politicized, our country is done.

More proof we've become a police state.

News,film,television,social media,courts,FBI,DOJ and now the military.

Can't fight back with speech. Can't fight back with gunz now they're going to be gone.

We've fully devolved in to tyranny.

originally posted by: ratcals

originally posted by: Lumenari


Military members are bound by oath to not have a public political opinion.

Why do you not know anything about any topic but still post an opinion on it?

/facepalm

This is not true at all. The military is exactly entitled to have a public political opinion. They're even allowed to participate in political protests. The caveat is they can't be in uniform.

We are not supposed to be in uniform because it might give the impression that that branch of the military officially supports that politician. So wouldn't using official military social media accounts give the impression that the military supports suppressing carlsons political speech?

USAF 1997 to present active and reserve with a 4 year break in service, wife 2001 to present most of that as an enlisted aviator, I did 5 years as a flight engineer rest as a flying crew chief.

By regulation when you are not able to do your flying duties you are not supposed to be in a flight suit, wife was deployed when she found out she was pregnant she was immediately relegated to DNIF status (duties not including flight). being deployed she was able to keep wearing her flight suit, as soon as she got home she was in ABU's, when the flight doc said I couldn't fly anymore I was immediately put back in ABU's.

The concept of maternal flight suits is ABSURD and falls under fraud waste and abuse IF they follow the regulations, of course they wont because right now it seems your political leaning is more important than the regulations.

ETA: thats on top of the fact I have known several flyers that pushed the structural integrity of the flight suit to the MAX with their waist line and trust me the vast majority of women could fit comfortably in them while pregnant.

originally posted by: schuyler
The so-called "military attack" was after Tucker Carlson made fun of military uniforms for pregnant members. This had nothing to do with "Policy decisions." It had to do with a member of the press being a sexist pig and getting called out on it.

You clearly do not watch Tucker Carlson, or you got your opinion from a Militarytimes headline...and I say that as someone who frequently criticizes and mocks him on other platforms. Of course there are women who are capable pilots, marksmen, etc. Hell, Women don't even have to serve in a combat-role in order to be useful. Grace Hopper and Headly Lamar never served in active combat, but that didn't stop them from revolutionizing computing, however Lamar was with CIA iirc.

Now that we established women are useful and capable, let's get to the meat of the issue.

There is a huge difference between Maternity BDU'S/formal-wear for women working at a desk or drone-station in Virginia and Maternity Flight Suits for piloting actual snipping f16 and F18's. www.wpafb.af.mil...

A pregnant woman should be on maternity leave, or working At a desk until she can resume normal duties for both her own safety and the safety of her child. I DO NOT CARE if you call me sexist, just like I do not care if you call me a velociraptor.

I'll say it again. Democrats are cornering all markets.

They control the media
They control silicon valley
They control the courts
They control the FBI
They control hollyweird
They control college academia
They control the police

Guess they soon will control the military

And if you dont fall in lines they threaten your way of life

Yes its absolutely disgusting what the Democrats are doing. But the Republicans need to step it up big time and start fighting back

Biden really has nothing to do with it. He has no idea what's going on.

Socialists always use the military to prop them up.
We are being set up for it right now.
From what I can tell no one in Venezuela backs Maduro except the military and guess what he is still in power.
The socialists (dems) in this country look at him with envy!!!

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: infolurker

Under Biden, the military is launching political attacks to intimidate Tucker Carlson & other civilians who criticize their policy decisions.

So the military setting the record straight when talking heads are spouting nonsense to keep their viewers engaged is “launching a political attack”.

Uh huh.

We just exited 4 years of any direct refutation of a "news" article by the seated President of the United States was referred to as "an attack on the freedom of the press," so you goddamn bet your ass the military wading into something they have zero business nor reason to respond to is launching a politically motivated attack.

Well put.

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: infolurker

Possibly if that fruit loop Tucker Carlson could keep his sexist trap shut the Military may not have to chime up about not listening to his nor Chinas guff nor opinions on the matter.

So when you were a female in the American military what did you think about "Maternal flight suits?"

I'm dying to know your answer on that, since you seem to know everything...