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William is it your FULLTIME job to monitor/manipulate this forum?

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posted on Jul, 14 2003 @ 09:19 PM
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Thought you had some 'busy' advertising job?

Must cut into your personal life ?



posted on Jul, 14 2003 @ 09:32 PM
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No, thats why people like us are moderators.



posted on Jul, 14 2003 @ 09:48 PM
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dragon that's great, but you're still under William's wing....

You've got to look at the BIGGER picture bro, ALWAYS.

Seems as though the most intelligent, outspoken, articulate posters either become Williams bitch, or get banned.

Just observations from viewing this forum for 3 years.





posted on Jul, 14 2003 @ 09:51 PM
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There are other boards. Perhaps you'd be happier starting your own board?



posted on Jul, 14 2003 @ 09:59 PM
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MoBXsiNN,
I've only been here for a little over two months now, and in that space of time there have been a considerable number of posts concerning the way ATS is being operated. I have stayed back and observed what has transpired. My initial read was that this site was a forum for the exchange of information on subjects that concern the world as a whole. The key word here is "exchange." There are always going to be conflicting views on any subject; that is how we learn what is true and what is not. Without guidance in our quest for the truth, there would be chaos. The whole is greater than sum of it's parts. In this case, the whole is trying to understand what is deception and what is truth in a world where the line is very blurred.
There are times when "poking the bear" is justified, and other times when it is just to get a reaction. I would like you and everyone else on this board to ask yourselves, "What are we here for?" Is it to learn and foster awareness? If the answer is "yes," then you belong here. If the answer is "no," then you must realize that what you seek is not here.



posted on Jul, 14 2003 @ 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by MoBXsiNN
dragon that's great, but you're still under William's wing....

You've got to look at the BIGGER picture bro, ALWAYS.

Seems as though the most intelligent, outspoken, articulate posters either become Williams bitch, or get banned.

Just observations from viewing this forum for 3 years.




Alright dude, I for one do NOT appreciate being called Williams bitch.

In case you are on some hallucinatory herb, the truth of the matter is that William DOES NOT tell us what to do. I have had more than a few "discussions" and "variance of opinions" with William. He an I do not see eye to eye on a few issues, but we can agree to disagree.

As far as how I run my forums, I can make my own decisions thank you.

As far as Williams position on this board, he is the one who makes this board possible. If you are unhappy here, there are many others (most of them rather inferior) out there that you may well be happy with.



posted on Jul, 14 2003 @ 10:07 PM
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you say most other forums are inferior, can you name some that are worth reading?

Im not trying to say ats is bad or anything, I just want to see what else is out their that wont be a waste of time



posted on Jul, 14 2003 @ 10:12 PM
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hey, the perks are good dammit !



posted on Jul, 14 2003 @ 10:13 PM
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My policy: Take it easy. Have fun.

I just added a new one: call an idiot an idiot when he starts calling other people idiots because he can't marshall an argument and resorts to puerile insults directed at others rather than presenting a clear position.

William is OK. This is a good board. It will not grow dynamically unless the idiots are weeded out.

* I was an idiot. I meant to say 'call an idiot an idiot', not 'call an idiot and idiot'. There are enough idiots without calling out for two of them at once. *

[Edited on 15-7-2003 by MaskedAvatar]



posted on Jul, 14 2003 @ 10:14 PM
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okay -- what did I miss?

who got banned?



posted on Jul, 14 2003 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by kitty
hey, the perks are good dammit !





posted on Jul, 14 2003 @ 10:37 PM
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"Alright dude, I for one do NOT appreciate being called Williams bitch."

Never said you were Williams bitch


"In case you are on some hallucinatory herb, the truth of the matter is that William DOES NOT tell us what to do."

Agreed, that's where his master manipulation linguistic programming skillz come in.


"I have had more than a few "discussions" and "variance of opinions" with William. He an I do not see eye to eye on a few issues, but we can agree to disagree."

I talk to a high level 'occultists' often and agree on many issues.

"As far as how I run my forums, I can make my own decisions thank you."

Run it how you please, ive seen freespeech be DECAPITATED on this forum(and most others on the net) in the past 2 years(mostly recent).

"As far as Williams position on this board, he is the one who makes this board possible. If you are unhappy here, there are many others (most of them rather inferior) out there that you may well be happy with."

Really? This board was in full blossom before 'William' was running things.....

I still think this is one of the best forums on the net.....



posted on Jul, 14 2003 @ 10:53 PM
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Run it how you please, ive seen freespeech be DECAPITATED on this forum(and most others on the net) in the past 2 years(mostly recent).

This is a privately owned server, and the owner is NOT the US constitution. The first amendment exists here at the discretion of the owner. Talk to Simon if you have problems with that.



posted on Jul, 14 2003 @ 11:31 PM
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Mob, if you like the board then insulting the Admin, and mods, is a hell of a way to be accepted. What are trying to do, be AV mark 2?

I see no reason why this thread should not be deleted, it serves no purpose.

[Edited on 15-7-2003 by Netchicken]



posted on Jul, 14 2003 @ 11:52 PM
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Has AV been banned? If so, I bet MoBXsiNN is him. Sounds just like him. He also used the term "William's bitch (which I find to be way to funny to say)."

...and if he hasn't. This guy must be his fake person to agree with him.

Sorry if you aren't, but you sound just like him.

How did bitch get over the cover? Testing: Bitch, ass, Conan O'Brian.

Edit: Guess bitch isn't on the list then.


[Edited on 7-15-2003 by Cammo Dude]



posted on Jul, 14 2003 @ 11:54 PM
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Originally posted by MoBXsiNN
Run it how you please, ive seen freespeech be DECAPITATED on this forum(and most others on the net) in the past 2 years(mostly recent).


Originally posted by MoBXsiNN
Seems as though the most intelligent, outspoken, articulate posters either become Williams bitch, or get banned.

I normally don't get into these "martyr parties," but the general tone of these quotes sounds all too familiar. MoBXsiNN, could you and AV be one in the same?


Originally posted by MoBXsiNN
Just observations from viewing this forum for 3 years.

Right here, you state that you have been viewing the forum for 3 years. On the next quote, you state that...


Originally posted by MoBXsiNN
Run it how you please, ive seen freespeech be DECAPITATED on this forum(and most others on the net) in the past 2 years(mostly recent).

Have you just been "lurking" on the board for the past two years, or was that three years? Could it be that the time discrepancy was added in order to draw attention from your real identity? If in fact you have been only "lurking" for the past two to three years, why, after all that time, did you decide to become a member on 06/03/03? Surely after all that time, you would have been able to see the things that you mentioned in your previous posts of which you voiced so much discontent?

MoBXsiNN, if you and AV are one in the same, have you ever considered the fact that maybe you are suffering from MPD (Multiple Personality Disorder)? Please keep in mind that I am not personally attacking/criticizing you, but rather trying to help you to identify the problem so that you may seek a solution.

I find it somewhat more than a mere coincidence that at 4:23 a.m. on 07/14/03, AV made the following post:

quote]Originally posted by Abraham Virtue
Personally I think that those who have multiple screen names for the sake of being at an advantage over those that don't are up to no good.

MoBXsiNN, you and AV are the same person, could this post have been made with the motive of discovering whether or not someone else on the board may know that you, yourself, have more than one name?

In closing, it is unfair to make accusations without having concrete and undeniable proof.



posted on Jul, 15 2003 @ 12:00 AM
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...the IPs suggest this isn't AV...so how about we at least listen to what he says and take him on his own merits...

...I might not personally agree with what he is saying, but would hate to see the actions of another colour the strength of any point he is trying to make...



posted on Jul, 15 2003 @ 12:08 AM
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He must be "AV's bitch."



posted on Jul, 15 2003 @ 12:19 AM
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netchicken .. that avatar .. do you think thats appropriate?



posted on Jul, 15 2003 @ 12:45 AM
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Oh not another one of those "I hate the mods and the way they run things thread". Frankly this is getting OLD!!



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