Texas loves socialism when it comes to weather

Texas has always thought of itself as an independent state. They even call themselves their own republic.
The people sure are different there, not necessarily bad or good, just different.

They sure do have the most independent spirit.......until............weather.

Yes folks that’s right, as soon some cold, snow or rain hits TeeeHAw all bets are off.
abc13.com...

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Saturday warned that all of Texas faces an unprecedented winter storm and issued a state disaster declaration. President Joe Biden approved an emergency declaration for the state of Texas and ordered federal assistance to supplement state and local response efforts

What do you call it when a state can’t take care of it’s own citizens and gets federal assistance? Isn’t that socialism???
That horrible S word...

Picking on Texas here, but Just food for thought..

a reply to: JAGStorm

Socialism is

a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

So, no.

This is merely the mass mobilization of state resources that are already state resources toward one effort instead of what they normally do.

So what do you call it when several State's mismanages their money and creates an emergency lasting a year to get money from the Federal Government to bail them out?

Texas and Texans pay their taxes to the Federal Government just like every other State. Kind of a BS statement here, isn't it.

I think you need a refresher course in ideology.
A good starting point is defining socialism.
you can start here...www.dictionary.com...

a reply to: JAGStorm

No. That is not socialism. Its constitutionalism.

Jesus dude. I struggle to find words to say this in a way that approaches civility. So ill leave it at that.

originally posted by: JIMC5499
So what do you call it when several State's mismanages their money and creates an emergency lasting a year to get money from the Federal Government to bail them out?

Texas and Texans pay their taxes to the Federal Government just like every other State. Kind of a BS statement here, isn't it.

Texas is the welfare queen when it comes to disaster relief.

www.thenation.com...

You know the old saying: There are no atheists in foxholes. I’ve got a new one: We’re all socialists after a natural disaster. Even Texas Senator Ted Cruz. The hypocrite who tried to block Hurricane Sandy aid to the East Coast in 2012 is now demanding the federal government expedite emergency funds for the survivors of Hurricane Harvey along the Gulf Coast of Texas, and in Houston, the nation’s fourth-largest city

a reply to: JAGStorm

Hey so much for global warming, the planet has been getting warmer for century's ever since we came out of the little ice age.
en.wikipedia.org...

Before that for century's the climate had been much warmer, so warm in fact it sparked a population boom in Scandinavia and brought about he Viking age, but just before that there was a cold spell around the latter years of the Roman period.

We are in a period GEOLOGICALLY called the Quaternary Glaciation, in other words the whole planet is actually IN AN ICE AGE and has been for about 4 million years according to those in the know (or so they claim - though there whiskers don't look white enough for me to fully believe them).

This is divided between warm (interglacial like today) periods and cold (Glacial) periods that we wrongly call the Ice Ages (We the whole thing is one big ice age the Quaternary).

But supposedly we are OVERDUE for going back into an ice age but here is the question, it was WARMER than today before the last major glaciation began and we still have some heating up to do before we match that and that warming probably stopped the ocean circulation system that regulates global temperature back then when nearly all the ice melted into the seas and made them less salty, this in turn made the northern hemisphere colder as the warm ocean currents that usually warm us up in winter were no longer circulating and this in turn meant glaciers suddenly grew, very fast and it got so cold the snow no longer melted in summer until much of Europe and North America were under about 2 miles and more of ice.

The ocean got saltier as all that fresh water was now frozen on the land, were we live today was cold, too cold and people moved to were the sea side then was hundreds of feel lower in land that is now under water and the ocean currents began to circulate again until something triggered the end of the last Glaciation and put us into this warm period.

We now know that the sun goes through hot and cold periods, solar maximum's and solar minimum's and that the sun has a weather system were sun spots can also affect it's output of energy and heat.

It all really boggles the mind but to my mind the carbon points scheme is a scam, global warming is being blamed on current economy's so as to milk them for money and control the global finances AND the only real damage we are doing is CFC's and other Ozone depleting chemicals and all that plastic crap we are pouring into the ocean's but CO2 is not really the problem it has been made out to be, more CO2 actually triggers more tree and plant growth - though it can also lead to algal bloom's on the sea which are toxic to sea life.

(in other words that Guy you had over there what was his name - Trump - was right about protecting your Job's and economy and the only real problem is chemical and especially plastic waste - oh and Monsanto crap washing into the water table and into the sea is really - really bad but the greenhouse gas argument, sorry I am on the side of the climate sceptics there, yes there is Global warming and yes people DO contribute but not as much as we are being accuse of it is other pollutions that are the real problem)

Pfff. Humans. Safety. # those guys


We all know that political ideology completely trumps (no pun intended) the health, safety and welfare of human existence.


I'm guessing if something tragic happened to you or your world, you'd refuse any assistance in the name of whateverthe# you believe in?

a reply to: JAGStorm

Pretty sure assisting with things like that is pretty much the reason for the federal government existing...if not...why even have one? Why not just be a whole bunch of independent states?

a reply to: JAGStorm

thats not really socialism, socialism is about the means of production, not receiving help for a situation you aren't prepared for.

cities and towns in the south just weren't built for snow so they need help from other states and the military.

and really America never actually had an issue with socialism, the whole cold war was more about the USSR refusing to open their economy and obstructing free trade, all the anti communist stuff was perpetuated by hardliners that didn't really understand the true issue our government had with the USSR. its why we trade with china and vietnam but not north korea, venezuela or cuba

a reply to: namehere

It's not just the snow. It's also the cold. Large parts of the power grid is out down there because of the demand.

Things just don't get that cold.

Houston is having lake effect snows!

Yesterday all of Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Ohio, and all of Indiana (minus two northern counties) were under Winter Storm Warning. You just don't see that.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
Texas has always thought of itself as an independent state. They even call themselves their own republic.
The people sure are different there, not necessarily bad or good, just different.

They sure do have the most independent spirit.......until............weather.

Yes folks that’s right, as soon some cold, snow or rain hits TeeeHAw all bets are off.
abc13.com...

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Saturday warned that all of Texas faces an unprecedented winter storm and issued a state disaster declaration. President Joe Biden approved an emergency declaration for the state of Texas and ordered federal assistance to supplement state and local response efforts

What do you call it when a state can’t take care of it’s own citizens and gets federal assistance? Isn’t that socialism???
That horrible S word...

Picking on Texas here, but Just food for thought..

Nope
You can thank obama for shutting down coal
Now everyone gets rolling blackouts
Not just California

So yeah plug in your electric cars while you can

a reply to: JAGStorm

FEMA is an example of socialism in the United States, for it is funded by all of us, then reserved to help communities overwhelmed by natural disaster. And while FEMA is only part of any community response to devastating events that would otherwise destroy the lives of many, it is a reflection that all of us are in this American project together and looking out for each other.

www.irontontribune.com...

You guys sugar coat it all you want. You are angry because you know what it is.
Like I said, food for thought.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I think this is more what happens when something out of the ordinary happens, like a Hurricane.

Rather than look at this as some call for Socialism, I'd say it's one of our states among the UNITED STATES that may need a hand. I'd wager the good folk of Texas can deal with this just fine on their own if needed, but luckily, it's not needed. We seem to be a nation of states after all.

a reply to: JAGStorm

The public education system is a better example. All the infrastructure, employees, etc., are pretty much government owned and citizens are almost universally forced to use it unless you happen to be wealthy enough to be able to fund an escape.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: JAGStorm

I think this is more what happens when something out of the ordinary happens, like a Hurricane.

Rather than look at this as some call for Socialism, I'd say it's one of our states among the UNITED STATES that may need a hand. I'd wager the good folk of Texas can deal with this just fine on their own if needed, but luckily, it's not needed. We seem to be a nation of states after all.

I also wager that if push came to shove, Texas would handle this on its own better than California would handle the big one on its own.

And if we want to confine ourselves to weather, let's compare this with the sub-tropical cyclone that hit the Jersey coast and New York. I'd wager Texas still gets back on its feet better on its own than the East Coast does.

a reply to: JAGStorm
Texas rainy day fund


Check it out

a reply to: JAGStorm

Oh look, a guy has fallen! What to do other than kick him in the face?

Sorry, but that is how your posts here come across. Very dickish.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: JAGStorm

I think this is more what happens when something out of the ordinary happens, like a Hurricane.

Rather than look at this as some call for Socialism, I'd say it's one of our states among the UNITED STATES that may need a hand. I'd wager the good folk of Texas can deal with this just fine on their own if needed, but luckily, it's not needed. We seem to be a nation of states after all.

This is an example of why wind and solar suck on our demand based grid.
And why baseload energy is important.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: JAGStorm

Oh look, a guy has fallen! What to do other than kick him in the face?

Sorry, but that is how your posts here come across. Very dickish.

I'm picking on Texas, but this is really more about a high level conversation.
Seriously I love Texas & the people and hope they make it through OK.