Clinical Lab Scientist Tests 1500 Positive Samples Finds Zero COVID

a reply to: BlackArrow

The only way I can still find it is through the Dissenter browser on the Wayback machine, other browsers won't allow it.

Because this got scrubbed I am now quoting the second half of the article. Scrubbing something makes people want to read it and consider it.

While SARS-CoV-2 –namely the the virus which is said to cause COVID-19 (categorized as a disease), was reported to have been isolated in a laboratory test in January 2020, the RT-PCR test does not identify/ detect the virus. What it detects are fragments of viri. According to renowned Swiss immunologist Dr B. Stadler

So if we do a PCR corona test on an immune person, it is not a virus that is detected, but a small shattered part of the viral genome. The test comes back positive for as long as there are tiny shattered parts of the virus left. Even if the infectious viri are long dead, a corona test can come back positive, because the PCR method multiplies even a tiny fraction of the viral genetic material enough [to be detected].

The Question is Positive for What?? The PCR test does not detect the identity of the virus, According to Dr. Pascal Sacré,

these tests detect viral particles, genetic sequences, not the whole virus.

In an attempt to quantify the viral load, these sequences are then amplified several times through numerous complex steps that are subject to errors, sterility errors and contamination.

Positive RT-PCR is not synonymous with COVID-19 disease! PCR specialists make it clear that a test must always be compared with the clinical record of the patient being tested, with the patient’s state of health to confirm its value [reliability]

The media frighten everyone with new positive PCR tests, without any nuance or context, wrongly assimilating this information with a second wave of COVID-19.

While the RT-PCR test was never intended to identify the virus, it nonetheless constitutes from the very outset the cornerstone of the official estimates of Covid-19 “positives”.

WHY then was it adopted??

The Controversial Drosten RT-PCR Study

F. William Engdahl in a recent article documents how the RT-PCR Test was instated by the WHO at the outset, despite its obvious shortcomings in identifying the 2019-nCoV. The scandal takes its roots in Germany involving “a professor at the heart of Angela Merkel’s corona advisory group”:

On January 23, 2020, in the scientific journal Eurosurveillance, of the EU Center for Disease Prevention and Control, Dr. Christian Drosten, along with several colleagues from the Berlin Virology Institute at Charité Hospital, [together] with the head of a small Berlin biotech company, TIB Molbiol Syntheselabor GmbH, published a study entitled, “Detection of 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) by real-time RT-PCR” (Eurosurveillance January 23, 2020).

While Drosten et al’s Eurosurveillance article (undertaken in liaison with the WHO) confirmed that “several viral genome sequences had been released”, in the case of 2019-nCoV, however, “virus isolates or samples from infected patients were not available … “:

“The genome sequences suggest presence of a virus closely related to the members of a viral species termed severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS)-related CoV, a species defined by the agent of the 2002/03 outbreak of SARS in humans [3,4].

We report on the the establishment and validation of a diagnostic workflow for 2019-nCoV screening and specific confirmation [using the RT-PCR test], designed in absence of available virus isolates or original patient specimens. Design and validation were enabled by the close genetic relatedness to the 2003 SARS-CoV, and aided by the use of synthetic nucleic acid technology.” (Eurosurveillance, January 23, 2020, emphasis added).

What this (erroneous) statement suggests is that the identity of 2019-nCoV was not required and that “validation” would be enabled by “the close genetic relatedness to the 2003-SARS-CoV.”

The recommendations of the Drosten study (supported and financed by the Gates Foundation) pertaining to the use of the RT-PCR test applied to 2019-nCoV were then transmitted to the WHO. They were subsequently endorsed by the Director General of the WHO, Tedros Adhanom. The identity of the virus was not required.

The Drosten et al article pertaining to the use of the RT-PCR test Worldwide (under WHO guidance) was challenged in a November 27, 2020 study by a group of 23 international virologists, microbiologists et al. “Their careful analysis of the original [Drosten] piece is damning. …They accuse Drosten and cohorts of “fatal” scientific incompetence and flaws in promoting their test” (Engdahl, December, 2020).



The results of the PCR Test applied to SARS-2 are blatantly flawed. Drosten et al recommended the use of a 45 amplification threshold cycle (Ct), which was endorsed by the WHO in January 2020.

According to Pieter Borger, et al

The number of amplification cycles [should be] less than 35; preferably 25-30 cycles. In case of virus detection, >35 cycles only detects signals which do not correlate with infectious virus as determined by isolation in cell culture…(Critique of Drosten Study)

The WHO’s RT-PCR “Retraction” (January 20, 2021)

The RT-PCR test was adopted by the WHO on January 23, 2020, following the recommendations of the Drosten study quoted above.

One year later on January 20th, 2021, the WHO came out with the admission that the PCR test will yield biased results if they are conducted above a certain cycle threshold used for amplification. Below is the text of the WHO’s “retraction”:

WHO guidance Diagnostic testing for SARS-CoV-2 states that careful interpretation of weak positive results is needed (1). The cycle threshold (Ct) needed to detect virus is inversely proportional to the patient’s viral load. Where test results do not correspond with the clinical presentation,a new specimen should be taken and retested using the same or different NAT technology.

What this admission of the WHO confirms is that most of the estimates of covid positive under the so-called “Second Wave” (with amplification cycles in excess of 35) are invalid, which means that the lockdown / economic measures which have resulted in social panic, mass poverty and unemployment (allegedly to curtail the spread of the virus) have no justification whatsoever.

Moreover, the WHO is calling for retesting: “a new specimen should be taken and retested…”. That recommendation is pro-forma. I won’t happen. (It is there to sustain the legitimacy of the WHO). Millions of people Worldwide have already been tested:

“if someone is tested by PCR as positive when a threshold of 35 cycles or higher is used (as is the case in most laboratories in Europe & the US), the probability that said person is actually infected is less than 3%, the probability that said result is a false positive is 97% (Pieter Borger, Bobby Rajesh Malhotra, Michael Yeadon, Clare Craig, Kevin McKernan, et al, Critique of Drosten Study)

At the time of writing (Second Wave) the test is being used extensively to hike up the numbers with a view to justifying a partial lockdown with devastating social and economic impacts including the engineered bankruptcy of tourism, air travel and the urban services economy.

Both the WHO and the scientific assessments (quoted above) confirm unequivocally that the tests adopted by governments to justify the destabilization of their national economy are TOTALLY INVALID. Moreover, those PCR tests are not routinely accompanied by a medical diagnosis of the patients who are being tested.

originally posted by: whyamIhere
The Dems used the yearly flu to win an election.

They ran up the body count with fake numbers.

Then blamed it all on Trump.

Well played, now govern.

Yeah, sure... try the (((Dems))).

a reply to: gottaknow
From the article
"One year later on January 20th, 2021, the WHO came out with the admission that the PCR test will yield biased results if they are conducted above a certain cycle threshold used for amplification."

What day was that, yup nailed it, Biden's inauguration.
The timing was perfect, now the new testing mythology needs to be rolled out worldwide.

Does anybody know if their country is using it yet ?

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: gottaknow
From the article
"One year later on January 20th, 2021, the WHO came out with the admission that the PCR test will yield biased results if they are conducted above a certain cycle threshold used for amplification."

What day was that, yup nailed it, Biden's inauguration.
The timing was perfect, now the new testing mythology needs to be rolled out worldwide.

Does anybody know if their country is using it yet ?

Again that seems to be misinformation.

www.usatoday.com...

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33

I think what happened is, there was another person referenced within the total discussion not in the quote, who was totally tracible to a University Department and he totally denied it all. In fact he then made a Facebook post saying it was a lie and a fraud.

Thanks for the reply. If I understand you correctly, you're agreeing that the source of the claims is not (as he pretended) a doctor with a PhD in virology and immunology.

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
This may have forced them to legally pull the whole thing down. Did this person get threatened, I am not sure, it's not like that hasn't happened before.

Legal threats would be appropriate if using another person's identity to post reckless and false claims.

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
Meanwhile the source is the talking points they crafted themselves.

As the crafted talking point is 'a clinical lab scientist tested 1500 positive samples and found zero COVID', it's safe then to conclude there was no such lab scientist, no such testing, and no such result. It's also safe to conclude that somebody with an agenda posted this lie on the internet knowing others would gobble it up and spread it.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

You're doing it again!

Cutting and pasting splurges from Michel Chossudovsky's globalresearch site (accused by information warfare specialists at NATO’s Strategic Communications Centre of Excellence of playing a key role in the spread of pro-Russian propaganda).

The piece is credited to Chossudovsky, who's entitled to believe what he likes, and to publish it on the internet.

But... he has absolutely no qualifications in virology. He's a professor of economics.

He's not in a position to assess the science with competence any more than you or I. That's why we look to experts in the relevant discipline for guidance.

If a doctor tells me I have brain cancer, I probably won't wish to believe him. So, not unreasonably, I'll go to a specialist for a second opinion. But I won't surrender my fate and future by accepting the diagnosis of an economist or electrician, however well qualified, just because they insist cancer is a hoax.

We all come at this with our biases, of course. Immunology is complex. The science progresses with unprecedented speed. If your understanding of it comes from a few random folk making wildly contrarian claims, who have no relevant training in the discipline, or pretend they have when the haven't, clearly you're on the road to intellectual (and, quite possibly, physical) ruin.

This is a Déjà vu feeling, just like the 9/11 forums back in the late 2000's.
People on ATS can ultimately draw their own conclusions on COVID and the issues swirling about it.

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: EvilAxis

And how hard is it for Google and the Globalists to scrub one guy off the internet, that 100% contradicts the official narrative.

They recently totally silenced the POTUS, so it wouldn't be hard to erase one unknown voice and presence and label it as a fraud.

This is ATS, I would expect you to also "Deny Ingnorance" after you have read all the mounting evidence on here.

Or, could you accept the possibility that its a hoax?

Why would you be so quick to assume the coronavirus test doesn't work, despite all of the evidence and millions of people in healthcare attesting to it working properly?

I personally am recovering from covid. We had an outbreak at my work. All employees were tested. 1/3 of them were positive, including myself. Every single person that actually had covid tested positive. Everyone else tested negative.

Its pretty obvious for many people when you have covid - its unlike any other illness. Especially for those who lose their taste and smell , which happened to about 60% of us.

Actually losing your sense of taste and smell are signs of a vitamin d and zinc deficiency.

Which are two major regulators of your immune system. Stop using it as if it's unique to covid.

originally posted by: EvilAxis
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Google shows no records of a Dr. Derick Knauss from Southern California, with a PhD in virology and immunology - just links to globalresearch.ca which appears to be the original source of this piece.

With no record of where he works, or journal to which he has contributed (none of which he mentions), it seems likely he isn't who he says, or doesn't exist.

Extraordinary claims require substantial evidence. Without the credentials of the person making the claim, there is nothing.

Didn't the motto here used to be, 'deny ignorance'?

(A report by the U.S. State Department in August 2020 accused globalresearch.ca of being a proxy for the Russian disinformation campaign.)

The Russian government promoting anti-vax hysteria in the US to further destroy its people and economy. That's a conspiracy theory I can buy into.

Ever see the movie "Enemy of the State" ??? I would not believe the crap about the Russian boogieman.

It's not exactly a single sickness or disease like the media is saying. You can't give it a term like "covid-19". It's not a new pair of fancy shoes.

Our immune systems change with the earth, our environment, habitats, the weather, what we put in our bodies, how our bodies react, and the germs (good and bad), and water.

Everything is constantly developing and influenced to everything it comes in contact with.

The earth's weather system is it's immune system and influences our habitat.

Our genetics develop based on all of these elements as well.

Some departments cannot keep development at the same rate as others...
Just like our bodies that build immunity to certain bacteria... So does bacteria development coinciding with our science.

Eventually one side overcomes the other.
If our scientists begin to slow it's productivity... so does this influence the immune system, bacteria will exploit the weakness and the earth can cleanse herself of this cancerous growth on her body (humans :/ ).

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Well I think all these Covid shenanigans should have recruited tens of thousands, if not more, doctors and nurses onto the Conspiracy Bandwagon.

Coalition of 87,000 Doctors and Nurses against lockdowns and mRNA vaccines

Former VP of Pfizer speaks out against mass vaccinations

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

3 words that will be a household name in relation to CV testing very very soon, these same 3 words will either prove or disprove the testing results so far worldwide.

Those 3 words are - grey innovation.com

(CV breath test - results in 3 mins) the implications are endless.)

originally posted by: nOraKat
Coalition of 87,000 Doctors and Nurses against lockdowns and mRNA vaccines

Former VP of Pfizer speaks out against mass vaccinations

P1sses me off that these 'potentially' very important clips are so short, why not provide a link to the whole on interview? (not directed at you)
Or is it a twatter thing that it can only be that long?

originally posted by: FinallyAwake

originally posted by: nOraKat
Coalition of 87,000 Doctors and Nurses against lockdowns and mRNA vaccines

Former VP of Pfizer speaks out against mass vaccinations

P1sses me off that these 'potentially' very important clips are so short, why not provide a link to the whole on interview? (not directed at you)
Or is it a twatter thing that it can only be that long?

Could be selective editing...

originally posted by: canuckster
Actually losing your sense of taste and smell are signs of a vitamin d and zinc deficiency.

Which are two major regulators of your immune system. Stop using it as if it's unique to covid.

They are also 2 major signs of Pleomorphic Bacterial Infection.

These are the fuels the bug steals from our bodies reserves to live and thrive on.

Very basic and simple.

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
This is a Déjà vu feeling, just like the 9/11 forums back in the late 2000's

Not so much for me. As someone noted, l joined ATS in 2007 when 9/11 discussion and debate here was conducted with some integrity and rigour. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels standards have plummeted.

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
People on ATS can ultimately draw their own conclusions on COVID and the issues swirling about it.

That goes without saying, but wouldn't it be preferable if they didn't base them on nonsense you brought here which is demonstrably unverifiable and almost certainly made up to mislead the credulous?

They found no Covid-19 in any of the positive samples collected in Southern California and the team of scientists are suing.

The Covid Scamdemic - A Blatant and Obvious Fraud

originally posted by: Doctor Smith
They found no Covid-19 in any of the positive samples collected in Southern California and the team of scientists are suing.

The Covid Scamdemic - A Blatant and Obvious Fraud

I can't find any lawsuit filing documents... who are they suing?