Covid-19 is absolutely a seasonal virus

A few months ago I created the following chart to see what events may have impacted the spread of Covid-19 in Australia, and the only obvious correlation I could see was how the 2nd wave started and ended around the same time that winter ended and started (remember that winter in the southern hemisphere occurs at a different time to the northern hemisphere).



Now when you look at the latest case data it's even more obvious that Covid-19 is a seasonal virus, there is no other explanation that fits this data. We've had barely any cases all throughout summer, even all throughout the Christmas holidays and New years, despite mass numbers of people coming together and socializing, my small town was more packed than it was last year.



If you had only been listening to the MSM in Australia instead of looking at the case numbers you would have never guessed what the data actually looks like. This was especially true just after the new year because you can see there was a slight rise in cases around that time, and the MSM went into full fearmongering mode, as if we were going through a 3rd wave.

Anyone living in Australia knows exactly what I mean. They even started enforcing masks in the Sydney area despite having gone through the first two waves without any mask rules. It's yet another example of mask laws being introduced at the most illogical point in time, based on reactionary paranoia rather than a sensible and fact based approach.

The reason this concerns me so much is because the level of baseless paranoia is now reaching epic scales. A few weeks ago Western Australia went into a full lockdown over one single case, enforcing self-isolation and mandatory masks. I'm also fairly sure that's the first time Perth and other places in WA have enforced masks, while we are seeing the lowest case numbers seen in a long time.

Despite almost 2 weeks with no new cases in WA, they are keeping the mask rules in many places around WA. I find all this highly concerning because there absolutely will be a big 3rd wave which will make our current numbers look like absolutely nothing... and if they are now taking these extreme actions as a result of 1 or 2 cases, just imagine what they will do when winter hits again.

This is blatant overreaction and someone needs to be held accountable. They truly seem to believe they can eradicate Covid-19 from the face of Earth if they just keep our national borders closed long enough and treat every new case as if it's the end of the world... even if we do manage it the rest of the world won't, meaning our borders are closed for the foreseeable future.

I warned this would happen months ago if we refuse to use common sense and allow ourselves to surcumb to fearmongering. I said it was a stupid approach when I saw New Zealand doing it and now I'm seeing that stupidity first hand in my own country. We can't just keep the nation closed forever and live inside our safe little bubble, it's not realistic or practical.

Sources:
www.abc.net.au...
www.perthnow.com.au...

All I can say about masks - cry me a river. I can't believe wearing a mask bothers you that much. As far as lockdowns go, I can understand the problem.

Your data about the virus being seasonal is convincing though!

a reply to: darkbake

Masks are not mandatory in my area, not even inside shops. I haven't worn a mask since all of this started. I'm simply pointing out how they choose to enforce mask rules at the most illogical times and I've already provided data which clearly shows masks have next to no effect on the spread of Covid-19.

Undeniable proof masks don't do jack

Australia's reaction always seemed way out of proportion to the actual risk from the get-go. So much so it seems like there was an ulterior motive. I never thought the Aussies would be so compliant for so long, Canadians either for that matter.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Most cases in australia, besides local transmission...have come from international travellers....how do you think that applies to the seasonality?

Also...why are masks just not common sense...just like basic sanitization?

While your post is lengthy, you could still dig deeper I think.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Thanks for the link to your post. Apart from the last graph, the others don't prove anything because who knows how much worse the spikes would have been without masks. Even if masks aren't 100% effective, they are better than nothing, and every little bit helps. As a gamer, I know all about stacking up minuscule buffs to make a major difference.

Even so, I do like your data-driven approach to arguments! I wish I knew more about the details in that last graph. Yes, you have me almost convinced that the mask mandates were enforced at illogical times.

I have noticed that Australia is super serious about isolating COVID cases and stuff! Also, I think you have presented enough proof to convince me that COVID-19 is *mostly* seasonal!

They figured that may be the case back about nine or ten months ago. Cases in the Summer would be more asymptomatic, but they figured people might build some immunity. Looking at all the charts it appears to be true, it even was known by June of last year. but our governor disregarded this evidence and kept things locked up which means people would already have immunity. I think she will have a job working for pfizer when she is done being governor and probably invested heavily in stock with the Michigan based company.

a reply to: darkbake

There are plenty of places where you can view the data and they've marked where mask ordinances went into effect. The only conclusion that can be drawn is that masks have little if any effect on what the virus does. Some places the cases appear to go down, in others they were already going down, in some places cases were low and then spike sky high anyhow. The only clear pattern is that there is no clear pattern. And if there is no real pattern, then it cannot be said that masks do much of anything one way or the other.

So wear it if it makes you feel safer. I'm not going to tell you not to, but there's really nothing clearly compelling to suggest that everyone will drop over dead if they don't choose to.

a reply to: darkbake

who knows how much worse the spikes would have been without masks.

Well considering many nations have enforced mask laws at illogical times when there was no spike, that argument doesn't hold. If the case line continues following the exact same trend it was showing before the mask laws, then it's very clear they didn't help reduce the spread.

As a gamer, I know all about stacking up minuscule buffs to make a major difference.

Lol...

originally posted by: putnam6
Australia's reaction always seemed way out of proportion to the actual risk from the get-go. So much so it seems like there was an ulterior motive. I never thought the Aussies would be so compliant for so long, Canadians either for that matter.

Did ANY country’s reaction seem IN proportion to the actual risk, from the get-go?

No.

And our friend in this thread- “What’s the big deal about wearing the mask?” They don’t, or I strongly suspect WON’T at this point, let themselves see that it isn’t about the mask. It never has been. These mask robots LOVE living in fear. They do, they love it! Fear and self-imagined superiority to those of us who see what’s going on and have the balls to not bend over and ask for it hard, like they are STILL doing, almost a year later.

Good graph, OP! And you are right to be concerned about your country’s shenanigans of late. We all should be worried. Anyone who thinks all of this just stops and we go back to being able to go where we want when we want with whomever we want is being a willful idiot. If people didn’t see how nefarious this is, when they destroyed millions of people’s jobs, they are being willful idiots.

This only lasts though as long as people keep obeying these ridiculous orders. I fear too many people around the world just love being told what to do and what to think and what to say. I’m dead serious.

originally posted by: sunkuong
a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Most cases in australia, besides local transmission...have come from international travellers....how do you think that applies to the seasonality?

Also...why are masks just not common sense...just like basic sanitization?

While your post is lengthy, you could still dig deeper I think.

And you could provide a link to confirm your assertions if you have one.

Thanks in advance! 👍

a reply to: dug88

The amount of hand washing with alcohol is not good for the skin either.

And to think, back in my day, we had let's get sick parties just to get whatever illness it was out of the way.

And, there is not a bend in the curve for polio's decline in spite of the vaccine. Not even a little.

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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

The staggering overreaction is most certainly worrying, but not surprising. As I have noted previously Australia always has had underlying fascist tendencies. Like it or not, that's the reality. And now that there's a "crisis" a little bit of wanton fascism was always bound to rear it's ugly head.

Remember ...... you can be forcibly injected against your will in Western Australia;

The Public Health Act 2016, however, does set out powers that allow an authorised emergency officer to direct a person, including a child, to be tested and vaccinated under a public health state of emergency.

The act also gives emergency officers the power to use "reasonable force to ensure that the direction is complied with" including the removal of underwear if necessary

Bolding by me. Linky.

Remember the Nuremberg Code. And remember ALL of the current vaccines and gene therapies are still experimental and will be for years.

The Nuremberg Code, point number 1.

1. The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.

Only a fascist would see themselves beyond that one.

a reply to: EternalShadow

You can find a lot of details of course on www.health.gov.au

I realise government websites seem a bit of a nono for lots of people who prefer independant sources, but i found it reliable enough to stay informed and keep my family in good health.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

You would probably like the work of Ivor Scientific Analyses and Papers on Lockdown Effectiveness

Here collated are the papers of shame – the lockdown ideology is destroying our societal health, selling the lie of saving lives. Lockdowns cost net suffering and lives – by a huge margin. Here we gather together the evidence.

TWENTY+ LOCKDOWN LACK OF EFFICACY PAPERS & ANALYSES:

He's has been saying it's seasonal since March last year. here's 1 of his many talks on it.



He was supposed to be raising funds for a documentary but he has slowed down on that.

a reply to: puzzled2

Thanks for sharing, will check those vids out later.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Among rational people, was there ever any argument that the number of deaths and positive test would be higher in winter than in warmer seasons? There's a set of fairly logical reasons why that would be the case, mostly the same as why levels of flu are always higher at the same time.

Great post, I also think Covid is a manipulation by Govs and big entities BUT....

That graph is the EXACT same shape for the UK and we are in the middle of winter.