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originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: booyakasha
I understand the BTC argument. The fact of the matter is governments are not going to adopt BTC or allow the continuation of what we're currently seeing in the crypto markets (central banks and TPTB are not going to stand around doing nothing while they lose their power to a decentralized peer-to-peer payment & currency transaction system):
Janet Yellen, former Chair of the Federal Reserve and now Treasury Secretary of the US:
Janet Yellen Says Cryptocurrencies Are a ‘Concern’ in Terrorist Financing
Christine Lagarde, former Prime Minister of France and now President of the European Central Bank:
Lagarde Blasts Bitcoin’s Role in Facilitating Money Laundering
Are you seeing a pattern here, booyakasha?
what are they gonna do? blow up the internet? ban electricity? tell you you're not allowed to use it? oh no...
Let me be more specific: should central banks issue a new digital form of money? A state-backed token, or perhaps an account held directly at the central bank, available to people and firms for retail payments? True, your deposits in commercial banks are already digital. But a digital currency would be a liability of the state, like cash today, not of a private firm.
This is not science fiction. Various central banks around the world are seriously considering these ideas, including Canada, China, Sweden, and Uruguay. They are embracing change and new thinking—as indeed is the IMF.
originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: ScepticScot
A few resources that help illustrate some of the points made in the OP:
From the World Economic Forum: A digital currency should be adopted as the world's leading reserve currency
And one from the IMF:
Winds of Change: The Case for New Digital Currency
An excerpt, specifically mentioning EU citizens having an account held directly at the ECB, using digital sovereign cryptocurrency (written by Christine Lagarde herself):
Let me be more specific: should central banks issue a new digital form of money? A state-backed token, or perhaps an account held directly at the central bank, available to people and firms for retail payments? True, your deposits in commercial banks are already digital. But a digital currency would be a liability of the state, like cash today, not of a private firm.
This is not science fiction. Various central banks around the world are seriously considering these ideas, including Canada, China, Sweden, and Uruguay. They are embracing change and new thinking—as indeed is the IMF.
originally posted by: FamCore
So far, one comment about Bitcoin but the thread is off to a lackluster start lol guess I’ll check back in the morning and maybe try to resuscitate if still no traction
This is a topic worth exploring... work with me ATS
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: FamCore
So far, one comment about Bitcoin but the thread is off to a lackluster start lol guess I’ll check back in the morning and maybe try to resuscitate if still no traction
This is a topic worth exploring... work with me ATS
It's too complex for the average poster since it doesn't deal in partisan politics.
The long term sustainability of printing money to buy our own Treasury Notes, that's the real issue, not foreign nations as we own the bulk of our own debt, is not viable.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: FamCore
So far, one comment about Bitcoin but the thread is off to a lackluster start lol guess I’ll check back in the morning and maybe try to resuscitate if still no traction
This is a topic worth exploring... work with me ATS
It's too complex for the average poster since it doesn't deal in partisan politics.
The long term sustainability of printing money to buy our own Treasury Notes, that's the real issue, not foreign nations as we own the bulk of our own debt, is not viable.
MMT essentially says that (for us here in the USA) the US doesn't need to worry about debt, we can literally fund any programs we want (Green New Deal, forgive student loans, Universal Basic Income, buy all of our own treasuries, etc.). Because we "print" our own currency, we can just keep printing. If inflation picks up "too quickly" they can increase taxes or pull other levers to try to contain the inflation.
The US is in a particularly precarious situation because of our (now multi-) trillion dollar budget deficits - we buy so many products from other countries and do not produce/export very much at all in comparison.
When foreign nations no longer want US treasuries (which is a growing trend in recent years, with China, Russia et. al), MMT policymakers say we can buy our own treasuries instead.
After the Bretton Woods agreement the US became the world reserve currency and foreign nations could always "redeem" US dollars for gold. Nixon took us off the gold standard in 1971 because the global financial system outgrew that system and having USD convertible into gold was no longer feasible (I may be oversimplifying so others, feel free to chime in, but I'm trying to paint the picture concisely so not including every applicable detail). In 1974 the US was able to convince Saudis & OPEC to trade oil exclusively in dollars, hence the "petrodollar" system you've probably heard of. Many countries are using alternatives to the dollar to purchase oil (including Russia, China).
The confluence of factors here (skyrocketing national debt, US budget deficits and non-producing economy, petrodollar system is in late stages and it appears USD as World Reserve currency is also in late stages) means politicians have no choice but to try to keep the game going as long as possible in the biggest ponzi we've mankind has ever witnessed.
So back to my original premise, if the global financial system is literally becoming this much of a joke should I even waste my time studying the ins and outs of TRUE economic history and precedent or am I just playing myself?