I will PAY you for sleep!!!

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I feel like the weakest, sorriest, stupid piece of human excrement known to man.

You only feel that way because your so tired.

Try marijuana or sleeping pills just for a few nights till you get some sleep and start thinking clearly.

Your one of the smartest people on ats dude. Your statement that I quoted can't possibly be true.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk


My wife got some Organic Mugwort - Artemisia vulgaris from amazon. A nice cup of tea at night makes me sleep well. They say it's a "dream enhancer" and some people smoke it too.

About the pain, I don't ask the doctor for super strong painkillers anymore, I just take 5 Advil liquid gels. Yeah...., I know what you think but it works.

a reply to: glen200376

Yeah they will lol , a few and we’ll see you in 12 hours

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Try red vein kratom (mitrogyna speciosa). It works like a dream. Take a larger dose.

ETA: It works great for pain too.

originally posted by: glen200376
a few Xanax will help you sleep,the days will disappear.

I think that's not a good advice. He can't sleep because the pain. It's probably waking him up several times when he sleeps. Must target the pain and the inflammation.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Your one of the smartest people on ats dude.

In fact not 10 min ago I was reading this thread www.abovetopsecret.com...

People kept linking to a reply that you made in another thread www.abovetopsecret.com...
One reply said this.

FlyingClayDisk wrote a fairly detailed breakdown of how this works and why there’s nothing that can be done about it. It was just last week in the other thread talking about it. I can’t remember the name of that thread, but it came to a stand-still after FCD explained it all.

And everyone understood that if it was coming from you it was probably accurate.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Sorry to hear you have gotten to that spot... it can be very discouraging.

I'm not a "pain pill" fan at all, so when they rebuilt my lower back what helped me a lot after the first few weeks was THC and high-dose melatonin 30 minutes before I went to bed.

It helped a lot.

Good luck FCD!!!

I see a lot of suggestion to self-medicate. I don't see why not if you need to.

What I would suggest is that the first you do, do what you must to get the rest you need. A good portion of your issue right now is exhaustion. Get some rest.

After you're better rested, re-evaluate where you are and then make a plan. I would say either put the med control in the hands of someone who will go to the mat with you before letting you have them or set a schedule for yourself. I say this not because I'm worried about you getting addicted or overdosing, but because the first time you manage to fall asleep without any medication aid will be a big milestone for you. It may not feel like it because that night may still be rough, but compared to where you feel now, it will mean progress is being made in the healing.

So just test yourself from time to time. That's what the schedule is for. Don't get broken exhausted like you are now, but do test yourself enough that you have a good idea when you can start taking it on your own and handling it.

Btw, med in this context can mean any sleep aid from alcohol to melatonin to the wacky weed and its various derivatives (I've never gotten there, but my aunt may or may not have done so once or twice when getting through her throat cancer chemo).

Poor fella, I'm sorry to hear about this.

Try a cup of chamomile tea with a bit of Manuka honey.

🍵

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
I think I can help.

Magnesium Glycinate (this is the brand my husband & I use) You can find it at Sprouts or Natures Grocers, and it can also be ordered online.




Does "Wonders for Sleep" plus so many other benefits.

My husband also had shoulder surgery 6 months ago so I am familiar with your situation.

Read about all the benefits: draxe.com...

Hope you are ZZZzzz soon!

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

According to cartoon makers a mallet to the head will knock you straight out.

I don't have a clue how to help with this. It is not like a sore joint or pain caused by tiny clots in capilaries. If it was pain in the muscles the capilaries feed from tiny clots, a single full strength aspirin helps me sleep. In my joints, I use either bone broth or Jello, which helps to build lubricant.

I just found that L-glutamine got rid of pain in my knees and hips and ankles, so I take one in the morning and one at night and my joints are not so touchy. I did not expect that pleasant side effect when I was testing it on my intestine, it did help my gut feel better but I noticed its unexpected benefit in the joints the most. Taurine supplements help with nerve pain a little, and also do thin the blood a tad bit but I did not notice pain relief with the tiny supplement I have been taking, but it does help with calmness. I have been taking the small taurine for about a year, and the L-glutamine for about a month, I mean, between the two it costs me about twelve bucks for two months or more. I just take a five hundred mg of each, small as they get. You can absorb that much glutamine from an eight ounce steak, if a person eats a lot of meat medium or medium rare, they usually do not need a supplement.

I doubt if any of this would treat your pain, and I know how not being able to sleep from pain feels. I have damaged my back and joints quite a few times working construction, also had to have a double hernia fix done. I have never found much that helps and stuff like oxycotin sometimes makes things worse, because you cannot feel it hurt and then hurt it more by doing more. I do not like taking pain pills much, usually I got the prescription and just took half of them then kept the rest to use when I threw out my back again for a day or two. Not my cup of tea.

Good luck with this, wish I could help but never had the surgery done, tore my rotator cuff about four or five times, but it healed ok after some time. It took way longer to heal the last two times because I am in my sixties. If you tear it off, then you need surgery, but I had to just baby it for a few weeks or lately, a month.

I know people who had that surgery you had, it took them quite a while to heal from it, but they did get better and could work pretty well with the extra parts in their shoulder. But I guess the metal in them does conduct cold in the winter, giving them some dull pain, so they now go out with a coat on everytime they go out in the cold. Same with some who had the knee replaced. I know people who had hips replaced, but we never discussed if that is cold sensitive, so I do not know.

Good luck and make sure not to overdo it so it heals quicker, I always overdid things and that resulted in some more lengthy recoveries from things. No patients to sit around when there is stuff that needs to be done.

Thanks all for the encouragement and suggestions. It's been really tough lately.

I actually do have some ambien and xanax, but I never took any because I was worried about them creating problems with the pain meds. But it's gotten to the point now where I'm not sure I even care anymore, I'll do about anything to get some sleep!

I will look into some of the other suggestions as well.

Thanks again!

FCD

Note - Current time is 23:50 pm, and I've been up since 01:15 am yesterday...just as an example.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Ditch the pain meds, those things are poison that will keep causing problems.

a reply to: Muninn

As a rule, I am usually reluctant to take even aspirin or tylenol or any OTC meds. So, I totally agree with you, but right now, not taking them is not an option...not even close!

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I'm telling you from experience, ditch the pain meds, they will only make things worse especially when they cut you off with no warning.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Highly controlled substance here and maybe a little overkill however my mum recently had a lobectomy and was prescribed Oxycodone, she was totally out of it at night after taking one but it certainly put her to sleep when nothing else would work. Also CBD oil helps with inflammation, I’ve had a few people swear by it for joint pain.

Have you spoken with your doctor about managing the pain?

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Throw away the pills aka painmeds. Go get a couple cases of beer drink the beer.

1 beer is worth 2 vicodins after 5-12 16 ounces eat a sandwich.

You can thank me after you wake up well rested and nearly pain free. When you wake up first things first drink another beer.

I had hernia surgery and knee surgery so this is my personal experience with after surgery progression.

You just gotta get over this hump and the easiest way is to drink the pain away.

You can do this now go get the beer and get to it.

Pain might be aggravated from increased tension a muscle relaxant like serapax might do the job.

Personally I deal with pain by accepting it as a signal. Telling my mind that the signal is accepted, Then focuses my attention on breath which helps calm the body. Imaging my entire body as lungs and witnessing air enter and exit the body (not forced breathing) for 10 or so minutes. If brain tries to focus on pain or starts thinking about this or that, just return to watching your breath. In deep meditation its possible to disengage certain parts of the body from mind or even the entire body. But that takes lots of practice.

Wish you the best.

a reply to: glend

Having read all the posts I was going to comment with something similar.
Flyingclay disk, I am so sorry to hear you are having so many problems after your op.
There have been some useful suggestions. However as glend suggested, your focus is now all on the pain and the expectation you wont get any sleep. Negative brain programming which will only reinforce pain and lack of sleep. Lack of sleep leads to irritation and inflammation this increasing pain. Vicious circle.
Please try reprogramming your brain. There will also be underlying emotional trauma to the whole operation.

Are you not being followed up with physiotherapy?
Is there a reflexologist near to you?

May I ask which shoulder you got the op on please?

Rainbows
Jane