Germany to put lockdown dissidents in detention centers

The vaccine is all the same technology and what people do not get is that is all from China. Pfizer and China has been working together on that vaccine since the covid started in China. Trust me China is making a lot of money on covid and the vaccine. They gave us the virus and now we have to bend over and take their GMO base vaccine, because that is what the vaccine is.

The inability of people to differentiate between Fascism and Socialism is really quite alarming and shows a level of wilful ignorance rarely seen before here on ATS - and that's saying something.

I'm not saying I agree with Germany's apparent proposed strategy of dealing with the stupid and inconsiderate - no doubt that's not how some on here will spin it in order to fit in with their own pre-conceived and locked in perspective - but the lack of understanding of political ideology, the intent to twist and spin things to suit their own prejudiced take on things and to misrepresent historical events and facts to fit their own political dogma and creed is really quite alarming.

Yes yes

“Think how WE think, or we’ll attack you” :

Hitler AND the current ‘left’

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
a reply to: watchitburn

Well, I’ve only seen the right storm the Capitol. Attempting to take power by force, is very Nazi in my book.

Haven't spent much time digging around in history books studying how Hitler came to power have you? He was legally appointed and came to power much the same way the American left has, using the amplified threat of partisan violence to grab even more power and start persecuting his political opponents.

a reply to: marg6043

Actually the vaccines work quite differently, they are not the same technology the Astra Zenica vaccine is leaps and bound's ahead of the more old fashioned Pfizer and uses newer technology in it's development.
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There are many ways of inoculating, using a weakened strain of the offending virus is one but is the most dangerous, using a genetically modified harmless virus that is altered to incorporate a harmless part of the virus but one that will be recognized by and trigger a response from the body's immune system is another and a third is to genetically modify a bacterial culture cell to produce just those recognizable parts of the virus that the immune system will react to and mass produce that as a kind of semi serum but to trigger the immune system to recognize those particles once they are injected into the blood stream but not as part of a viable virus though this has the chance to cause an allergic reaction in a patient as indeed do all the methods.

Basically the Virus is a strand of DNA or RNA that is encased in a protein shell, that shell has enzyme property's that allow it to pass into a cell and infect it but those enzymes and proteins can also be used to create vaccine that will trigger a response to when the immune system detects there signature in the blood stream, the other method is to allow a harmless virus - well relatively - that has something from the dangerous virus that will be recognized by the immune system once it is triggered by the infection to infect some of the patients cell's and cause the body to react, the body will then purge the infected cell's, so one method is to cause the immune system to try to attack the virus, not easy as virus are tiny even as far as the immune system is concerned and the other is to cause a cellular response that will cause the immune system to detect and eradicate infected cells before they can spread there infection to the surrounding healthy cell's.

Another method is to develop a chemical cure that would interfere with the enzymes on the viral shell and prevent it from being able to infect the patient in the first place, you may have heard of interferon an old drug based on this idea that was used to try to control HIV infection in patients back when they were trying to save people.

Then there is the serum route, create a serum containing anti body's against the virus from people with compatible blood group's that have survived, if necessary by culturing those anti body's and then inject that into people that have the virus (certainly not without severe danger of inducing anaphylactic shock so far from ideal but serums have saved lives in the past).

but guess what it all comes down to money and intelligence, first they dumbed down society now there is no one left to save it.

And Pfizer and the other vaccine manufacturers stand to rake in astronomical fortunes as they profiteer from this.

Lastly those that have already recovered from the virus do not need the vaccine until about six months later, it will not do one bit of good for them since they have already developed the same immunity the vaccine aims to create - though they can also remain infectious so the virus is a tenacious little B.

Welp, so much the so-called European superiority in virus handling ...

a reply to: ketsuko

We brit's DO have the best in the Astra Zeneca vaccine and the fact we are cooperating with the Russians whom have another good vaccine is excellent news, the Pfizer vaccine is very different and not compatible with the Astra Zeneca one as they are created using different methodology's.

a reply to: LABTECH767

I wasn't talking about vaccines but about all the endless chiding from our press all summer about how we were too open, too free, and that's why we had so many case. We should do it like Europe. *They* did it right ... harsh lock downs, etc. ...

a reply to: Sakashima

Impfungen macht frei

a reply to: ketsuko

I would put our current problem down to lazy arse politicians too slow and dim whitted to put us into quarantine on day one of the outbreak (I know it would be problematic we are an international air hub but that is why airports are borders), look how New Zealand avoided the worst of it, it took someone with some common sense over there to make the right call and she did even if some hate her politics she proved she cared about her people.

Sorry the heads of all our party's are obviously not worth there salt we really live in an idyocracy, oh for the old men of old who actually cared about our nation and our people, these git's are all my arse.

a reply to: LABTECH767

Considering my state as a whole only logged about 1,300 cases yesterday, I feel pretty good about where we are at right now. The big spike we saw mid-November is pretty well done and the holiday season didn't bring about Armageddon like they press forecast.

a reply to: ketsuko

Your lucky, I live just outside of Liverpool in England in a small town called Ormskirk, there are a hell of a lot more cases than that here.

a reply to: LABTECH767

Yeah, right now the worst places for outbreaks are the ones that locked down the hardest, so did they keep their case count artificially low at the expense of suffering a more severe spike later on is my question. The states that opened and remained that way mostly are riding this out in much better shape. We've had some high spikes, and we've had times where our ICUs have been stretched a bit, but things seem to be settling back in again.

a reply to: ketsuko

I think I catch your drift, Sweden did not lock down but it suffered huge numbers of death's.

Population density is a key factor the more people the more densely packed they are in an area and the easier the virus spreads, high density housing, big city's, apartment's with shared air conditioning units that kind of thing is what you do not want in this day and age.

Also people with health life styles and plenty of vitamin D despite claims to the contrary seem to fare far better than those that have unhealthy lifestyles and low vitamin D in there body's.

It's definitely not a cure but healthy exposure to natural light is good for us.

So arguably lock down has deleterious affects such as causing people to suffer lower vitamin D due to there less frequent exposure to natural light among other complication's.

Sweden tried for Herd Immunity but they have lost a hell of a lot of people whom may have been alive if they had quarantined and also caused a lot of anger from there neighbouring country's because of there lack of a response.

a reply to: LABTECH767

I will not be using any of them, none of the vaccines were tested on long term in the human body and is a new technology maybe in 5 years I will see if the tampering of proteins in the body has gone bad and people will develop auto immune system disorders that will be another money gravy train for big pharma on treatments.

Vaccines tested on only certain group of the population with no pre existing conditions is not good enough for me, Pharma have a reputation of making one fix all solution and we humans are not all the same.

And yes I do know how the vaccine works and how is made.

BTW Astro Zeneca vaccine gave the most side effects during the trials making them stop the testing now the vaccine is as good as gold as whatever they say. Good luck with deceptions.

a reply to: marg6043

We have not heard that in the UK so that is news to me, I have not had the vaccine and actually have no intention of having it but if it comes down to it then given the choice I don't want Pfizer's crap in my arm, I have other reasons for severely disliking Pfizer outside of this thread.

And by the way who do you trust more, a university research department (Astra Zeneca founded by them) whom will be more open about there results or a mega corporation that will hide it's failings, pay doctors to use it's product and push through faulty product for profit motivations Pfizer.

Sorry there is something missing there, I still trust Astra Zeneca more, call it a personal preference if you like but I simply do.

a reply to: LABTECH767

I agree, Pfizer have the worst record in the US on vaccines, deceptions, malpractice and law sues, is the largest holder of law sue right now.

They cheat, lie and push their miracle crap on people sadly money talks and BS walk, our government turn the eye to the other side while people suffer from their medications, Big pharma pass around a lot of money to politicians

originally posted by: myselfaswell
a reply to: DBCowboy

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originally posted by: SKEPTEK
a reply to: Sakashima

Impfungen macht frei
😞Vaccinations set you free😔

Das ist ein Bingo, Impfungen sind kostenlos. Entschuldigen Sie mich jetzt, während ich mir Sorgen über Selbstmordraten mache, deren Sterblichkeitsrate höher ist als die von Covid19 mit einer Überlebensrate von 98%. Nancy Reagan sagt "Sag einfach nein.

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