Infiltrating Area 51 - Is It Possible?

Yeah but whose going to pay much attention to something as small as a fly?

I doubt that they'd need to work in dust free conidtions or anything similar to what NASA had.

It's a lot more feasible than trying to send someone in.

Dogs...I'm partial to german shepherds, but there's plenty of mutts to be had from pounds who would love to have a "job" like training to run about 10 miles towards the dry lake with one of these strapped on their heads...
www.engadget.com...
Now I don't know what you could glean from just dog's eye level video even if the 20-40 dogs you would ideally have to release got anywhere near the actual air base at groom lake, or area 19, or papoose lake or wherever one was trying to hypothetically get near...but

what if...AND THIS IS PURELY HYPOTHETICAL...I would never personally undertake an action that could kill or destroy on the scale this might...what if

a team of people simeaultaneausly ignited brush fires along the accesible borders or used projectiles or model aircraft to carry ignition materials inside the borders of the base to create 4 hopefully large distractions for the base security to deal with...if done in summer with strong winds and dry conditions would there be sufficient fuel for fires to burn and grow? I haven't seen conditons there besides photos on websites so I don't know...

I think the HighAltitudeLowOpening parachuting suggestion would best be done after 4 fires were raging and 40 dogs with cameras on their heads were roaming around the base causing confusion...then if enough parachuting mercenaries landed on base sometime that night and were able to either use seismic equipment to determine if there was anything large and cavernous underneath or actually access some hangar and make it below ground...of course all this would cost huge $...SO with movies running in the $100-200 million range these days and big $ being spent on reality TV...we just need some nutty wacko movie lover like Kim Jong Il from North Korea to finance a little expedition/documentary of our favorite grey spot on the map in Nevada...holla

[edit on 27-2-2005 by azraeltheonionpeeler]

[edit on 27-2-2005 by azraeltheonionpeeler]

I believe that even sending something into the base, be it a RC car to a remote controlled fly would be picked up as a outside frequency thus sending off red flags. I believe the NSA (www.nsa.gov... they even have a kids page.) as programs and hardware capable of picking up walky-talky chat anywhere in the world. So why would Area 51 not have something of the like? Your best bet into getting into Area 51 would be doing it the legal way. By way of military or insane skills in math and science.

Now making a distraction and sending something out there will just not work. I believe they would pin point what was going on real fast. What you would need to do is train some desert birds or some hawks with a still picture micro cam and have them fly from end to end on the base and if possible have them land near hangers and take pics on the inside. “That’s if the guards don’t blown them away on sight.”

But using hawks would be the best choice other then going to work there or getting 5,000+ people to rush the base from all sides.

i'm not a area specialist so i woudnt kno, but tunneling could work, on the rc drone theory, a modded desktop rover on a sheilded wire, no signals then but then comes the problem of having hundreds of yards of wire being dragged behind the little thing.

hi guys i'm reservist. i'm irish so no kokes or i'll kill you. I Was wonderiig had anyone heard of any other governments that have tryed to take aa sneeky look in area 51 like the british. this sort of thing happens more frequently than you think so it would be worth looking into.

Originally posted by reservist
hi guys i'm reservist. i'm irish so no kokes or i'll kill you. I Was wonderiig had anyone heard of any other governments that have tryed to take aa sneeky look in area 51 like the british. this sort of thing happens more frequently than you think so it would be worth looking into.

Hi,
I'm pretty sure that other countries have had a gander at area 51 but there is nothing there but scientific experiments, If I were you I would start looking at the Arctic. bases. Mostly the MI6 and other brit intelligence is ALWAYS watching everything why do you think we have one of the biggest eaves dropping stations in the world, which funny enough the american soldiers hold.

Also the british intel. is the best and most comprihensive in the world just look at there bases they must have some somewhere but no one know's because they know how to keep a secret, a secret. They litterally control the UK's entire media and it wouldn't suprise me if some of the intel was from the BBC as they are the world's news agency! Ask anyone from anywhere and they know what the BBC is.

BBC:

Big Brother Corporation
or
British Broadcasting Corporation = You Decide?

I'd just want to say hello to an EBE. I promise I would never disclose the fact I had a nice little chat with an EBE either.

How do you think you'd hide a rocket launched in our busy US airspace (particularly with the trajectory it'd need to achieve a stable orbit over Groom Lake??

Stealth rocket??

A stealthy UAV ala Darkstar would be better.

A rocket would be too fast...but why do you want aerial pictures/footage?

I think anything is possible!

If you find the correct information to lead you to the right path, you just

might find a way in to area 51.


Checkout this website, www.futurehorizon.net

you might find stuff that could help you.

sorry for not being a big help!!

Get some type of recoding device on Insects or small animals. They can pass the sensors on the perimeter without setting off any alarm or concern..I assume the you would have to have some sort of mind control device on the Infiltrator.

I doubt any Human could ever breach Area 51.

Torturing, testing and Death would be the likely consequence.

Why detain and prosecute in court when you can just kill?

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Why not... It is't immune for infiltrations right...?

In my opinion, the only way to infiltrate a government facility is to drop in by parachute at night with a small squad of 5 - 6 men, in order to cover more ground. Really I have no idea how infiltration would be possible, especially with a sprawling complex like Area-51.

[edit on 30-5-2005 by Majestic12]

There is a way to do it.

Some of you are on the right track - just not taking it to the right place.

I won't tell more publicly.

Keep thinking!

Please enlighten me on U2U

I like the bug idea. I've done my fair share of work with electronics, and the fly is just too... James Bond. It's just not possible with the technology provided to the average joe.

I think maybe an RC snake which burrows beneath the sand, or a cockroach. As for the detectablity, what if it was made to operate on another band, maybe it could listen to the radio for signals (AM-FM). It could pick up morse-code like beeps embedded in some music or something. I don't find this too hard to accomplish using microcontrollers.

I have so many ideas, but I can't explain all of them now. This topic has really inspired me to do...something...

I think the bug idea is good but u would need a lot of money to make it happen

Originally posted by DeathDenton
How about you get a 100 huge motars and let rip at area 51
then move in the troops.

and they probably have self destruct mechanisms to destroy everything if they suspected anything

Originally posted by FairyNuff
Is it true you can also be executed in England for being a pirate on the river Thames? Im sure i read that somewhere or heard it.

Seriously though, if you were to get in there and out, what would you do with the info? Post it on the Internet and then get busted a short time afterwards? The fact that someone posted this on an open messagebaord was the 1st mistake. Also, if there was a group of you, could you REALLY trust them with such highly sensitive information?

Also, if you got in, where would you go? How would you avoid security people, cameras, locked doors? I'm sure a place like that would even use biometric security or even just electronic locks with numeric codes.

Lastly, the stuff in there could well be to do with homeland security and telling people about whats going on could be priceless info if it got into the wrong hands.

Originally posted by noouch
I have been thinking about this for quite a while and came across this thread. One thing surprises me: No one has mentioned the use of RC drones. You can use just about any kind of remote controlled vehicle, be it a car (mine fields!), a plane or helicopter (sound detectors) or aballoon lifter (cameras and you need sufficient power).
Sure, you wouldn't get very far, but you might be able to get far enough to get some good footage.
You would have to get the camera to directly transmit a video feed to recording equipment since the thing probably isn't going to live long and most definitely won't make it back.
The only remaining issue is how not to get caught. It's fairly easy to track a radio signal, so you would either have to control the vehicle via sattelite (if you're lucky enough to have at least partial control over it), use public radio transmitters or develop a propetiary system (perhaps based on cellular phones). The cell phone idea is neat because you can do it from practically anywhere.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents...

Right idea, But...

Using the same material NASA uses for thier Ultra-Long Duration Balloon flights (UDLB) and employing a minimal carbon-fiber frame (to reduce possible radar signature to near zero), construct an extreme high-altitude (80-110KFT) airship. Fly this perfectly legal vehicle, at altitude, OUTSIDE the facility's restricted air-space. Again, all perfectly legal.

Your "Spy-Blimp" must be free-flying. No tethers! Tethers would pose a hazard to air traffic and are completely impractical for the heights we are discussing. The craft would therefore require a means of Station Keeping; however extreme high-altitude propeller designs are already a matter of public domain (see NASA's HELIOS project). "Radio Control" would be by means of Ham Operator frequencies, which should easily cover the 20 mile "line-of-sight" distance to the airship from the ground; Ham signals have been bounced off satellites.

Live image capture would be limited by the band-width available to ham operators, although digital stills and video would be available if you can devise a physical retrieval system. The CIA used to drop film canisters from old spy satellites and retrieve them as they descended under parachutes by hooking them from a plane in-flight. We wouldn't need anything so elaborate; but the principle is a good one!

Now consider:

From 100,000 FT up you can get some really good coverage of a vast land area. Even if stationed well outside the restricted airspace of Area 51, from that altitude you'd easily be able to see anything entering or leaving the base, especially by air. Digital images taken at 100KFT are much clearer than satellite shots at 22,000 miles!

Your ability to loiter, on station, for days at a time makes it much more likely that you'll "catch something". And there's little the Gov't could do; even if your blimp was detected, it is not in a restricted airspace zone, it is not posing a hazard to air traffic (at 100KFT!?! Care to explain what kind of "Traffic" you've got at that altitude, over public lands, General?). They could not even shoot it down; shoot down an ostensibly Civilian aircraft over public property without proof immanent threat? And have the whole nasty affair caught on camera? A buereaucratic nightmare realized! The procedes from the lawsuit would easily cover your costs!

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