It Seems Like the Terrorists Are Just A Little Too Convenient.....

I know that the whole thing about 9-11 and other related things have been discussed and rehashed over and over again. So, I will not dwell on these things. However, I can't help but notice that these "Terrorists" seem to come in awfully handy, whenever government, at some level feels the need to unnesessarily search people, check their ID's, search their cars, the list goes on and on.

I guess it was brought to my attention the night before last, when they were holding the NCAA Regional Basketball Tournament at the Ford Center in Oklahoma City. They made a big deal on the news that everyone going in to watch the game should be extra careful, and to only bring the bare necessities, that everyone would have to be searched before entering the arena, due to an elevated terror alert. As it turned out, the next morning, after the game was over, as usual, no terrorists had turned out.

OKLAHOMA CITY -- As President George W. Bush raised the nation's terror alert Monday, so did Oklahoma Gov. Brad Henry, meaning fans attending the NCAA regional this week at the Ford Center in Oklahoma City should expect heightened security measures.

Due to the increased terror alert, extra staffing and a heavier police presence will be in place at the arena beginning Wednesday.

NCAA Tournament Director Tim Allen said fans should be patient if they are planning on attending this week's games.

"Everybody need to take a little bit more time -- they need to be patient as they enter the building knowing the security is going to be there," he said. "They are going to check things out, not because we think there's an imminent threat that's going to happen, but for everybody's protection."

Large bags will be prohibited inside the Ford Center, and noisemakers, signs, banners and laser pointers will also be barred.

Several hotels in downtown Oklahoma City said they are also operating on high alert, with extra staff and undercover security in place.

This is just one more recent example which brought the whole thing to my attention again, that suggests that those "terrorists" are simply too convenient for the government, whenever they want a legal reason to search people and/or their possessions, when normally it would be illegal and unconstitutional.

Is Bush really worried about terrorists here in America? Or does he just pull them out of a hat whenever he feels that the civilians need to be watched closer, or when he feels that they are perhaps not showing enough fear?

I don't know. It certainly seems a little too much.....

And what if security WASN'T strong at this event...people WEREN'T searched...NO bags were opened...and a bomb DID go off?

Something tells me there would be a MILE long line of people demanding an explanation from Homeland Security...beside EVERY person would be a group of lawyers salivating at the idea of all $$$ coming their way...protests in the streets claiming (yet again) that the government has their heads up their a$$es and don't know what they're doing...demands that BUSH resign...etc...etc...etc...

People AMAZE me! You can't have it both ways!

[edit on 19-3-2005 by Partyof1]

No, we can not have it both ways. But if there truly was an immenant terrorist threat, then there have been many more apt opportunities for it to occur. For example: Times Square on New Years Eve, the Superbowl, what about a city like Las Vegas, where over one million people are compacted into a small (sqaure footage wise) city. And at any given time, each one of the many hotel/casinos is jam packed full of people.

I'm sure that I'm forgetting a lot of other opportunities for a terrorist attack if there was going to be one after 9-11, but still, any of the above exanples would get a lot more people than one college basketball tournament.

That's what I mean. It's not like in Iraq, where bombs go off on a daily basis. They just don't go of here. Not for the last three years.

yes as it is a well known fact that terrorists hate basketball, just look at the long list of attacks on basketball games around the world ! Why do you think they dont play ball in Iraq?

They should bomb american fotball game, that sport really suxxx, but they probably figured that since theyre all wearing helmets, it would be useless

Originally posted by nukunuku
yes as it is a well known fact that terrorists hate basketball, just look at the long list of attacks on basketball games around the world ! Why do you think they dont play ball in Iraq?

They should bomb american fotball game, that sport really suxxx, but they probably figured that since theyre all wearing helmets, it would be useless

haha, they play soccer (or football so of u called it (not american football) in iraq)

The threat of terrorism is one of the most convient ways for people to sacrifice their freedom for an illusion of a threat. Why else would are live be dictated by a color coded bar of denoting to us when we might be attacked.

Terrorism is working in the sense that it's forcing many americans to revoke their freedom as pressured by our government.

I agree with simulacra, Terrorism in our country has become a very good way to keep the masses under pressure and in control.

Plus it looks like SyberKat said, they most hate Basketball and any other mass producing even in our nation.

Very choosy and to convenient to keep rubbing on the populations that we are "protected" and to find excuses for police and "security" forces to be around to often.

Originally posted by Simulacra
The threat of terrorism is one of the most convient ways for people to sacrifice their freedom for an illusion of a threat. Why else would are live be dictated by a color coded bar of denoting to us when we might be attacked.

That was exactly the point I was trying to make. However, I personally do not live my life around whether or not there will be a terror attack or not. I figure that if there really is one, then there is, what can I really do. Barricade myself in my house with duct tape on the windows? I don't think so.

And if the terror alerts are only announced to keep the masses in fear, well, doesn't work on me. (Just my personal feelings on the subject)

Originally posted by marg6043
I agree with simulacra, Terrorism in our country has become a very good way to keep the masses under pressure and in control.

Marg, I have always loved your posts. They are always well thought out, not sarcastic to the other members, and sometimes you can be funny, sometimes serious, and I don't know about others, but I take you serious because you never seem to post unless you seem sure of your self.

And, I agree with both you and simulacra, because I started the thread, so you both agree with me.

Originally posted by Simulacra
The threat of terrorism is one of the most convient ways for people to sacrifice their freedom for an illusion of a threat. Why else would are live be dictated by a color coded bar of denoting to us when we might be attacked.

Terrorism is working in the sense that it's forcing many americans to revoke their freedom as pressured by our government.

Good point and I am in full agreement...add to this that we will know if the Government if REALLY concerned about terrorism when and if they shut down our pourous US borders. And btw...if an attack happens before the borders are shut down and staffed with National Gaurd, then we can conclude that everthing was not done to protects us.....and then....voila the Responsible administration would most like need to resign...in this case it's Bush!

[edit on 20-3-2005 by cafeman]

Cyberkat - good post

Terrorism is being used as the Bogeyman to justify illegal acts. In UK Arrests are big news & tend to occur at convenient times for the Govt. When the suspects are released due to no actual evidence it's done very quietly.

We always had suspicions that all the IRA outrages weren't entirely Irish in origin. Plus Lybians shooting a UK policewoman on live TV happened very near a CIA-owned office.

Treat all reports with extreme caution

CyberKat,
good to see you awake!

Terrorism is a weapons of Fear. You need to terror-ISE the people, in order to make them and keep them afraid. If they are afraid, they will buy ANY story you sell them. Even that Albania has weapons of mass destruction, and the US need to liberate it. Terrorism is a product of western corporativism, of western capitalism and its neverending desire for more and more money.

Terrorism is the new arch-enemy of the "civilzed western hemisphere", just like Big Red Russian Bear was once. And all empires need an arch enemy to fight with, in order to stay alive, strong and full of money. War is profit in the western world of corporations. War is not terror. War is just a new way of marketing. And the US Empire needs an "endless war" in order to stay strong and fit; what better then elusive, wide spread and hidden cells of terrorists, that cannot be found and eliminated! Terrorism is an enemy you cannot defeat. There are not frontlines, there are not countries to invade, there are not rules and there are no regulations. This is the "new ball game". Terrorism is just an excuse. Nothing less, nothing more.

And did you know that CIA was the first organization that HIJACKED an airplane? They first hijacked a cuban airplane in 50's, and were the role model for all future "extreme islamic terrorist hijacks". Most of the today's world known "terrorists" were first on the payrole of the US of A: Saddam, Osama and Castro all started on the paylist of the CIA and then on the sniper list of the CIA.

Terrorism is not just "Just A Little Too Convenient". Its a big master plan, designed for an everlasting war, that will bring everlasting profit to the big bad corporations.

I'm glad to know that I am not alone in my theory as to who the REAL terrorists are. The government (Bush) I think has dug himself so far in, that he sees no way out. I guess that having those "terrorists" at his disposal whenever he thinks he's going to be caught doing some other illegal act, is his only hope to divert attention from whatever he wants kept quiet. Also, like so many of you agreed, the masses are trly afraid of these terrorists that they have never seen, just heard of on the media. But all that has to be done to instill fear in the masses is to have some mention of terrorist antics on the news, or raise the alert level, so that they are more easy to control, and divert their attention elsewhere, if necessary. He's really walking a tightrope.

I mean, does anyone really know what those colors on the "terror alert" chart mean? I don't, but people hear that the terror level has been elevated due to "chatter" or whatever, they just believe unconditionally. People ought to at least keep an open mind, to at least question things , rather than just believing because their leader says so. But, unfortunately, they have been conditioned to think (or not think) that way.

Oh, I notice that the news is spending a ridiculous amount of time on steroids in major league baseball. They are putting so much emphasis on that, just all of a sudden, makes me wonder what now has happened, that they need once again to divert the atention of the masses.

Thanks, though for your conributions to my thread!

Keep 'em comming!

CyberKat

excellent post and i couldn't agree more - terrorism is a tool of the powerful to controll the masses.

However Its effect will start wearing thin unless there is another 9/11-style attack on western soil pretty soon.

I wonder if the terrorists will conveniently appear again when the US is ready to attack Iran.....

Watch this space!

Originally posted by lost_soul


However Its effect will start wearing thin unless there is another 9/11-style attack on western soil pretty soon.

I wonder if the terrorists will conveniently appear again when the US is ready to attack Iran.....

That's my biggest worry, with Bliar about to face an election (and on the edge of destiny - the first Labour leader to be re-elected twice?) 11-9 fading from memory and UK being so-far untouched I think it's our turn.

What could serve all their purposes better than a bomb etc. in Ye Olde Londone Towne? I just hope MI5/SIS are watching the CIA very, very carefully

I find it both amusing and disturbing how so many people were outraged a few weeks ago when they discovered that terrorists captured in Spain a year ago had sketches of Grand Central Terminal--and no one told us!

The local news in NYC was all abuzz with interviews with people iin Grand Central during their evening commute who were scared and annoyed at the thought of not having this information because they would have been "on alert."

What I would like to know is--how do you put yourself "on alert"? Does this involve wearing a helmet, a gas mask and descending into a bunker of some kind? Had these people put themselves on alert in this manner, they would have been in that bunker for weeks now...

Until you tell me that I may have to do something specific like put on a gas mask, take an iodine pill or evacuate because terrorists are coming, I'm not going to give myself an anxiety attack. And if the government has partial information about a potential attack, what is to stop them from increasing security without telling the whole country? Why does the internal terror alert system and the public awareness system have to be linked?

Considering that there are many people who panic when these alerts are issued and run around like Chicken Little yelling that the sky is falling (because let's face it, what else can they do...), the terror alert is the equivalent of terrorism.

Malcom X is muslim. There for anything he say's is not worth hearing.

Originally posted by TheTruth123
Malcom X is muslim. There for anything he say's is not worth hearing.

And who are you to Judge that?
God Allmighty?
So if he was a muslim, does that make him also a terrorist?
Please, do NOT judge a man by the colour of his skin, nor by his religion.
Read a few books and speeches that he wrote, and then decide if it was WORTH HEARING.
Or has that been already decided FOR YOU?

Originally posted by TheTruth123
Malcom X is muslim. There for anything he say's is not worth hearing.

What you just said was highly ignorant. Who are you to judge a person by his religion? Skip the warning, you just need to get banned for this one.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!

Terrorism is just something that has been engineering by the NWO and/or the Bush Administration to further there own purposes and chase after there own goals.

I mean come on, who here actually believes 9-11 was carried out by flight school flunkies with plastic paper cutters?

I would hope the answer would be 0...